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UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre

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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 29 2017 21:41. Posts 13030

Date: Saturday, November 4th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:59 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.stopstream.me/




Main Card (PPV)

Michael Bisping (30-7) vs. Georges St-Pierre (25-2) (Middleweight Championship)
Cody Garbrandt (11-0) vs. T.J. Dillashaw (14-3) (Bantamweight Championship)
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (14-0) vs. Rose Namajunas (6-3) (Women's Strawweight Championship)
Stephen Thompson (13-2-1) vs. Jorge Masvidal (32-12) (Welterweight)
Johny Hendricks (18-7) vs. Paulo Borrachinha (10-0) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

James Vick (11-1) vs. Joseph Duffy (16-2) (Lightweight)
Walt Harris (10-6) vs. Mark Godbeer (12-3) (Heavyweight)
Ovince Saint Preux (21-10) vs. Corey Anderson (9-3) (Light Heavyweight)
Randy Brown (9-2) vs. Mickey Gall (4-0) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Oleksiy Oliynyk (55-10-1) vs. Curtis Blaydes (8-1) (Heavyweight)
Aiemann Zahabi (7-0) vs. Ricardo Ramos (10-1) (Bantamweight)

Other

- Gadzhimurad Antigulov was expected to face Ion Cutelaba at the event. However, Antigulov pulled out of the fight on September 26 citing an injury. He was replaced by promotional newcomer Michal Oleksiejczuk on October 13.
- Patrick Cummins was expected to face The Ultimate Fighter: Team Edgar vs. Team Penn light heavyweight winner Corey Anderson at this event. However on October 17, Cummins pulled out due to a resistant staph infection. He was replaced by former interim UFC Light Heavyweight Championship challenger Ovince Saint Preux on October 19.

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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 29 2017 21:44. Posts 13030

First impression of the match-ups:

• Bisping > GSP
• Garbrandt > Dillashaw
• JJ > Namajunas
• Masvidal > Thompson
• Borrachinha > Hendricks
• Duffy > Vick
• Harris > Godbeer
• Cutelaba vs. Oleksiejczuk (dunno)
• Brown > Gall
• Blaydes > Oliynyk
• OSP > Anderson
• Zahabi > Ramos


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impact69   Mexico. Oct 29 2017 22:15. Posts 307

Please let GSP pull out and Rockhold comes in.


Loco   Canada. Oct 30 2017 01:11. Posts 20963

Speaking as a non-fan of UFC, this card looks awesome. GSP is back! I didn't even know. I saw today that he's coming to my gym in a few weeks too for some weird bodybuilding event. Couple of the other fights seem interesting too.

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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 30 2017 02:27. Posts 13030



  On October 30 2017 00:11 Loco wrote:
Speaking as a non-fan of UFC, this card looks awesome. GSP is back! I didn't even know. I saw today that he's coming to my gym in a few weeks too for some weird bodybuilding event. Couple of the other fights seem interesting too.


Yeah, it'll be good to see GSP again.

The UFC has done terrible promoting UFC 217 for some reason. Nobody is aware that if GSP wins, he'll be one of the few people to have won a UFC title in two different weight classes -- only 3 people or so have done that.

Thompson vs. Masvidal will be fun because Masvidal will be in Thompson's face with various punches and make him work. Thompson is also a counter striker, so he'll be trying all types of spinning shit.

Garbrandt vs. Dillashaw has fireworks written all over it. No need to sell it with words.

I actually like Duffy vs. Vick. Both have similar skill sets, and both are on the bigger side for the division.

While I think Aiemann Zahabi (Firas Zahabi's little brother) lost his UFC debut and looked like shit after 1 round, he is clearly skilled. I look forward to seeing his improvements.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 30 2017 21:11. Posts 9634

This shit is stacked

Why Bisping > GSP as first impression tho? Even if he hasn't fought for 3 years or whatever, GSP s still going to just put him on the ground all day long imo

 Last edit: 31/10/2017 01:10

alejandicto   . Oct 31 2017 14:34. Posts 865

I am definitely betting on Masvidal here, odds are on +155 for him. Maybe no more bets still thinking


alejandicto   . Oct 31 2017 16:11. Posts 865

This is an awesome card, dont know why there is not big marketing on this I mean GSP could be middleweight champion coming from retirement and TJ vs Cody is a big rivalry with a great story about ex friends.

 Last edit: 31/10/2017 16:11

PuertoRican   United States. Oct 31 2017 19:36. Posts 13030




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iakim322   United States. Nov 01 2017 05:57. Posts 1335

Masvidal > Thompson - Masvidal's good and tough enough to stay in Thompson's face all fight and Thompson's ability is all at range

Bisping > GSP - Just don't see GSP being able to do his GSP thing against someone who counts takedown defense as one of his strengths, is bigger, and is super active through every round he fights

Probably Cody > TJ though not too eager about -180. Cody > Cruz was really one of the most impressive performances in recent memory imo

Parlays in MMA are pretty dumb but I feel like Joanna, Walt, and Blaydes are in pretty free fights


MysticJoey   Poland. Nov 01 2017 10:47. Posts 1430

never underestimate russian fighters :D


deathstar   United States. Nov 01 2017 16:37. Posts 111

Rose>Joanna

 Last edit: 01/11/2017 17:44

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 01 2017 20:09. Posts 9634


  On November 01 2017 15:37 deathstar wrote:
Rose>Joanna



i hope, but i doubt


deathstar   United States. Nov 02 2017 02:43. Posts 111


  On November 01 2017 19:09 Spitfiree wrote:
Show nested quote +



i hope, but i doubt


Joanna is a monster but Rose is a human champion.


Floofy   Canada. Nov 02 2017 04:36. Posts 8708

I'm not the best MMA better, and i'm biaised as a french canadian, but i would favor GSP. Here is my opinion:

Reasons to bet GSP:

Bisping is bigger, but they actually have the same reach.
GSP is a special king of talent. Usually, when a special kind of talent moves up, he just tears apart people from the higher division. Just look at what Gastelum did to Kennedy. Or what RDA did to Neil Magny. But GSP is an even more special athelete than both of those guys. And i think Bisping is over rated. We're talking about one of the best champion ever, fightning someone who shouldn't be champion.
GSP is a very calculated guy. He isn't a Conor type of person who takes random fights he can't win. He never accepted fightning Silva. If he took this fight, GSP himself thinks he is a favorite to win it, i'm sure of that.
If this was a pure boxing match, i would clearly give the edge to Bisping. If this was a pure grappling match, i think Bisping could stuff GSP's take downs. But GSP isn't a one trick pony like Maia. He is dangerous both on the feets AND with his take downs. His timing is genius. I think this will be the key to GSP's victory. Be threatening on the feets, and come up with take downs out of nowhere to secure rounds.

The last times Bisping fought good wrestlers, it was Kennedy and Sonnen. Both of them beat him. And GSP is way better than those fighters.
GSP has a big home town advantage. GSP is huge in canada.

Reasons to bet Bisping

Ring rust is a thing. GSP claims he is better than ever, but i think you can never ignore a 4 years ring rust.
Bisping probably has more power than what GSP is used to, and GSP has been KOed before.
In theory, this is a good stylistic matchup for bisping.

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drone666   Brasil. Nov 02 2017 05:27. Posts 1821

Dont listen to anything I say 

PuertoRican   United States. Nov 02 2017 07:28. Posts 13030

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Loco   Canada. Nov 02 2017 15:54. Posts 20963


  On November 02 2017 03:36 Floofy wrote:
I'm not the best MMA better, and i'm biaised as a french canadian, but i would favor GSP. Here is my opinion:

Reasons to bet GSP:


GSP has a big home town advantage. GSP is huge in canada.



The Madison Square Garden is not in Montreal nor elsewhere in Canada.

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Loco   Canada. Nov 02 2017 15:57. Posts 20963

How come Joanna Jedrzejczyk doesn't have cauliflower ears?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 02 2017 20:41. Posts 9634

Isn't Madison square garden on Madison avenue in NYC ? :D what home crowd lmao


cariadon   Estonia. Nov 02 2017 21:37. Posts 4019

Joanna is so gangster...
Rooting for Thompson and GSP aswell.


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 02 2017 22:40. Posts 13030


  On November 02 2017 19:41 Spitfiree wrote:
Isn't Madison square garden on Madison avenue in NYC ?


Nope.

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iakim322   United States. Nov 02 2017 23:37. Posts 1335

JJ's pre fight promotional shenanigans are getting a little tiresome imo. Though to be fair, I don't think the UFC has done a great job of promoting her in this event and in general. Feels like she needs a finish in this fight or at least several highlights for her train to really get faster

I like Rose's demeanor heading in even if I can't completely tell if she's in full DGAF mode or if she's not fully confident


Floofy   Canada. Nov 03 2017 00:36. Posts 8708

Joanna suffers from the same problem as DJ. She has no real competition, so her fights are never very exciting.
And unlike Ronda did, she doesn't do spectacular finishes, she just grind decisions.

I mean don't get me wrong, i enjoy Joanna and DJ's fights, but they need real competition.

Difference between them and Jon Jones, for example, is Jones even tho he had that invincibility aura, he kept facing killers and u never felt 100% sure he would win his next fight.

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lucky331   . Nov 03 2017 03:54. Posts 1124


  On November 02 2017 14:57 Loco wrote:
How come Joanna Jedrzejczyk doesn't have cauliflower ears?



but she has a broccoli pussy. aahahahaha.

j/k. i think some fighters have the fluid sucked right out with a syringe right after the fight.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 03 2017 12:10. Posts 9634


  On November 02 2017 23:36 Floofy wrote:
Joanna suffers from the same problem as DJ. She has no real competition, so her fights are never very exciting.
And unlike Ronda did, she doesn't do spectacular finishes, she just grind decisions.

I mean don't get me wrong, i enjoy Joanna and DJ's fights, but they need real competition.

Difference between them and Jon Jones, for example, is Jones even tho he had that invincibility aura, he kept facing killers and u never felt 100% sure he would win his next fight.



JJ vs Rose could be so easily promoted, they are both super badass, once JJ wins this the division is done though

I like how Bisping and GSP act promoting the fight, its trash talk but its funny and its not overly agressive e.g. McGregor - Mayweather type where you simply get sick of the acting ... its funny, its smooth and its chill



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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 03 2017 23:54. Posts 13030

Ion Cutelaba removed from UFC 217 due to potential USADA violation

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 04 2017 00:53. Posts 13030




Michael Bisping (184.6) vs. Georges St-Pierre (184.4) – for middleweight title
Cody Garbrandt (135) vs. T.J. Dillashaw (134.8) – for bantamweight title
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (115) vs. Rose Namajunas (114) – for women’s strawweight title
Jorge Masvidal (171) vs. Stephen Thompson (170.4)
Paulo Costa (185.8) vs. Johny Hendricks (185.8)
Joseph Duffy (155.4) vs. James Vick (155.2)
Mark Godbeer (244) vs. Walt Harris (251.8)
Corey Anderson (205.4) vs. Ovince Saint Preux (205)
Randy Brown (170.8) vs. Mickey Gall (169.8)
Curtis Blaydes (258.8) vs. Aleksei Oleinik (246.2)
Ion Cutelaba (205.6) vs. Michal Oleksiejczuk (205.2)*
Ricardo Ramos (135.4) vs. Aiemann Zahabi (135.2)

*Cutelaba was pulled from the card at the last minute after being flagged by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency for a potential violation.

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 04 2017 05:31. Posts 34246


  On November 02 2017 03:36 Floofy wrote:
I'm not the best MMA better, and i'm biaised as a french canadian, but i would favor GSP. Here is my opinion:

Reasons to bet GSP:

Bisping is bigger, but they actually have the same reach.
GSP is a special king of talent. Usually, when a special kind of talent moves up, he just tears apart people from the higher division. Just look at what Gastelum did to Kennedy. Or what RDA did to Neil Magny. But GSP is an even more special athelete than both of those guys. And i think Bisping is over rated. We're talking about one of the best champion ever, fightning someone who shouldn't be champion.
GSP is a very calculated guy. He isn't a Conor type of person who takes random fights he can't win. He never accepted fightning Silva. If he took this fight, GSP himself thinks he is a favorite to win it, i'm sure of that.
If this was a pure boxing match, i would clearly give the edge to Bisping. If this was a pure grappling match, i think Bisping could stuff GSP's take downs. But GSP isn't a one trick pony like Maia. He is dangerous both on the feets AND with his take downs. His timing is genius. I think this will be the key to GSP's victory. Be threatening on the feets, and come up with take downs out of nowhere to secure rounds.

The last times Bisping fought good wrestlers, it was Kennedy and Sonnen. Both of them beat him. And GSP is way better than those fighters.
GSP has a big home town advantage. GSP is huge in canada.

Reasons to bet Bisping

Ring rust is a thing. GSP claims he is better than ever, but i think you can never ignore a 4 years ring rust.
Bisping probably has more power than what GSP is used to, and GSP has been KOed before.
In theory, this is a good stylistic matchup for bisping.



Iol those are the worst rasons ever to bet GSP besides that he didnt do well vs good wrestlers before, however this was pre USADA, and GSP has never fought post-USADA, that combined with the fact that GSP has been retired for ages and smaller its an easy bet on Bisping

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Floofy   Canada. Nov 04 2017 10:21. Posts 8708


  On November 03 2017 11:10 Spitfiree wrote:
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JJ vs Rose could be so easily promoted, they are both super badass, once JJ wins this the division is done though



I'm not saying i won't watch it. Of course i will. Should be fun to watch. But i really dont think Rose has a shot.

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PplusAD   Germany. Nov 04 2017 16:18. Posts 7180

Thoughts on GSP vs Bisping.

1.) USADA plays a pretty important role.
GSP in his prime was almost as jucied up as Overeem.

Bisping however never was that type of guy.
I am pretty sure he has used stuff here and there (everybody has)... but he never was a living pharmacy shell.
GSP was !

This is a clear edge for Bisping

GSP for the first time fighting without being juiced up to the max...
Bisping fighting the same way he always fought his career.

Only good thing for GSP is that he had 4 years to prepare his body towards functioning without all that steroids...
GSP is not stupid and he probably adapted halfway decent withing this 4 years.

Still USADA makes it Bisping 1 - GSP 0


2.) Natural Size
Bisping is ~ 184cm and 208lbs (sherdog numbers on Size are definitely wrong)
GSP is 177cm and 195lbs

This will, even though GSP is as strong as Bisping make a difference.

From my personal experience ->
Size advantage makes it easier to not be taken down
Size advantage makes it easier to stand up after being taken down
Size advantage makes it easier to take punches
Size advantage makes it easier to dictate range

Pretty sure at several times in the fight GSP will take Bisping down
GSP is just too good of a wrestler.
It will cost him hell of a lot energy though and he wont be able to hold Bisping down for long.

-> Bisping 2 - GSP 0


3.) Ring Rust/ Off time
Dont think this plays an important role.
Bisping has been off 1 year and GSP 4 years...
Both basically have the same Problem.
1 year or 4 years doesnt really matter imo.

Still 2-0 Bisping

individual Skills

Bisping is solid on all levels.
Good Striking , Good takedown defence , good BJJ, good Wrestling
Bisping never was that extraordinary talent.
Always that guy who was good ... but never " really really insane" good

Gsp however was insane
This actually is the only edge GSP has
extraordinary talented guys sometimes come up with incredible solutions to seemingly overwhelming problems.

Bisping 2 - GSP 1

Overall i expect a clear descision win for Bisping 60% of the time
Late round TKO for Bisping 20% of the time
GSP pulling some miracle 20% of the time


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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 04 2017 19:34. Posts 13030

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 04 2017 23:28. Posts 13030



----------

Final picks:

• GSP > Bisping
• Garbrandt > Dillashaw
• JJ > Namajunas
• Masvidal > Thompson
• Borrachinha > Hendricks
• Duffy > Vick
• Harris > Godbeer
• Gall > Brown
• Blaydes > Oliynyk
• Anderson > OSP
• Zahabi > Ramos

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 00:24. Posts 13030

WOW!

Ramos with the spinning elbow KO! Zahabi's face was frozen to the side after the referee tried to wake him up...

WOW...

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 00:27. Posts 2440

ohh man that looked scary


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 00:46. Posts 2440

shit olynik with the potato sack impression :D


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 00:50. Posts 2440

lol new york at it again
edit: curtis via ear tickler

 Last edit: 05/11/2017 00:53

PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 00:58. Posts 13030

I entered 3 teams into the 3-max Televised event. It didn't fill, so I am taking a shot.

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 01:03. Posts 13030


  On November 04 2017 23:50 ERASA wrote:
lol new york at it again
edit: curtis via ear tickler


Basically, the fight getting stopped in R2 via doctor stoppage = gives everyone who had Blaydes on DraftKings a BIG lead.

Blaydes would've gotten a lot less if the fight kept going.

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 01:05. Posts 2440

are they showing the wrong intro or is my stream fucked?


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 01:06. Posts 2440

lol my stream shows UFC199 wtf...notlikethis.jpg
edit: streamer fixed it

 Last edit: 05/11/2017 01:07

PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 01:27. Posts 13030

Gall vs. Brown = shitty fight.

I had a lot of shares of Gall, so this sucks.

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 01:27. Posts 2440

i hate mickey gall and had him by sub too...


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 01:55. Posts 13030

FUCK...

I was BIG on Gall and BIG on Anderson...

FUCK...

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 01:56. Posts 2440

Always nice to see one of those grinders hit the floor


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 02:15. Posts 2440

WHAT IN THE FUCK?!


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 02:19. Posts 13030

FUCK...............

Godbeer gets a Round 1 FINISH via DQ...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 02:20. Posts 2440

and there goes my biggest parlay... meh time to chase :D


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 02:21. Posts 13030

Godbeer got 91.5 points for getting his ass beat and winning a DQ...

What a fucking joke.

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iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 02:25. Posts 1335

That blew up my $33 DK lineup

Kind of a joke because it didn't seem like a fight ending shot

But Walt Harris is an idiot. Ref was halfway in between them already with his hands on Walt even before his leg was off the ground to kick. If they were going to stop the fight, feels like the DQ is justified over a no contest


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 02:26. Posts 2440

He also screamed time 3x before the kick


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 02:50. Posts 2440

Nice, tilt betted vick before the fight


iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 02:55. Posts 1335

I bet on Vick just because I heard he's a gambler and he bet on himself. Great strategy worked out


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 03:14. Posts 2440

next fight im obviously pcking the lightheavyweight fighting at middleweight


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 03:30. Posts 2440

this dude is a fucking animal


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 03:32. Posts 13030

Costa just needs to tighten up his boxing defense, and he'll be amazing.

I didn't like how Hendricks started to land on him during the last 2 minutes of Round 1. If a real middleweight landed on him like that, he'd get fucked up.

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:06. Posts 13030

Stupid ass Masvidal...

He waited until Round 3 to really try to close the distance. He needed to do that in R1.

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iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:13. Posts 1335

3 rd fight. So odd why Masvidal didn't pressure right away. I get that you risk getting counter ko'd but I thought Masvidal was one of the few gritty enough to do so. Fighting Thompson at range is nearly impossible. And now Masvidal isn't going to sniff the top 3-5 probably for the rest of his career


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:17. Posts 2440

just put down bets on rose by sub, dillashaw and bisping by ko/tko ¯_(?)_/¯


iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:19. Posts 1335

What was the line on Rose by Sub? Prob the only way she pulls this off

Like Bisping by ko/tko


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:20. Posts 2440

x9 for rose by sub... not sure what that is i guess +800?
4,25x for bisping tko/ko


NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 04:27. Posts 2039

Wow!


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:27. Posts 2440

LOOOOOOOOOL THUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sucks for my bet LOLOLOLOLOL so epic


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:28. Posts 10468

fuck yea BINK

had $ on ROSE

BEAST - unfazed by pillowfists


NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 04:28. Posts 2039

If it’s a tap it’s a submission


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:29. Posts 13030

GG Joanna...

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NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 04:29. Posts 2039

Knockout I guess


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:31. Posts 2440

they showed the tap, is it really a sub if someone taps to strikes... i dont even know its so rare


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:32. Posts 2440

intresting rockhold won by submission due to strikes vs branch... damn... my bet


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:33. Posts 10468

he pulled her off before the tap


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:34. Posts 10468

McCarthy tapped rose to stop right before the tap from what i saw


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:36. Posts 13030


  On November 05 2017 03:31 ERASA wrote:
they showed the tap, is it really a sub if someone taps to strikes... i dont even know its so rare


It was clearly a tap due to strikes, thus it should be a submission win for Rose.

However, I've seen like 2 other people or so tap to strikes in the past 2 years, and they still ruled it a TKO win.

I don't know for sure, but I don't think they count "submission due to strikes" anymore as a submission.

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Loco   Canada. Nov 05 2017 04:37. Posts 20963

it happened almost simultaneously

it seemed like Dana tried to clarify things with the ref before the decision was announced

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iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:39. Posts 1335

Should definitely be a submission win for Rose but it'll prob go down as TKO. Only saw the replay once but from what I saw, Joanna tapped and Rose immediately saw it and stopped

Pretty wild. I don't think JJ is ever going to be able to live this down after being such a domineering bully at all times and then tapping to strikes as champion. And I say that as being someone who really really enjoyed her rise


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:41. Posts 10468

now for the main event and best fight of the year


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 04:51. Posts 10468

on tj +160 here


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 04:57. Posts 2440

ohh damn... reminds me of weidman/gastellum... rocked at the end of the first


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 05:01. Posts 2440

nice


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 05:02. Posts 10468

dam i got lucky there tbh. I think the odds were good but cody wins 6-7/10 imo


traxamillion   United States. Nov 05 2017 05:02. Posts 10468

cody has that tyrone woodley style


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 05:03. Posts 13030

Sucks that Cody lost his belt.

Hopefully they rematch soon.

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Raidern   Brasil. Nov 05 2017 05:11. Posts 4243

these guys are so good, i hope they rematch again. imo cody has only himself to "blame". he basically didn't push the pace at all when the 2nd start and maybe it was just a feeling but i felt tj was way slower than usual and throwing sloppy unbalanced kicks. he had enough time to recover imo

-edit- gsp wearing a spiderman tshirt, was that a promo towards an anderson silva fight? maybe from months ago...

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ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 05:30. Posts 2440

GSP looks amazing?


NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 05:34. Posts 2039

Definitely breathing heavy


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 05:37. Posts 2440

ohh has that mcgregor gas tank i see :/
better for my bisping tko bet i guess


ERASA   Germany. Nov 05 2017 05:42. Posts 2440

JEESUS WHAT A SICK SICK SICK CARD


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 05:43. Posts 13030

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

GSP!!! GSP!! GSP!!!

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Loco   Canada. Nov 05 2017 05:43. Posts 20963

ez money, fuckin' doubters :D

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

PuertoRican   United States. Nov 05 2017 05:44. Posts 13030

Champions go 0-3 on this card!

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NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 05:45. Posts 2039

Really love gsp, just utilizes every aspect of mma to get wins.


whammbot   Belarus. Nov 05 2017 05:45. Posts 517

fucking lag ruins mma for me lol


Raidern   Brasil. Nov 05 2017 05:50. Posts 4243

sick after 4 years he comes back and defeats the champion. I wasn't impressed by his performance thou lol

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NMcNasty    United States. Nov 05 2017 05:51. Posts 2039


  On November 05 2017 04:44 PuertoRican wrote:
Champions go 0-3 on this card!



Also a lot less rounds of mma than expected, not complaining in the least though.


whammbot   Belarus. Nov 05 2017 05:54. Posts 517


  On November 05 2017 04:50 Raidern wrote:
sick after 4 years he comes back and defeats the champion. I wasn't impressed by his performance thou lol



Sick ride for Bisping though, he managed to become champ, fight an "easier" money fight and he deserves it. Im concerned GSP's going to be popped for roids here lmao


drone666   Brasil. Nov 05 2017 06:12. Posts 1821

lol I subscribed to a site to watch and endup sleeping ;/
had 25 bucks on GSP round 3 at least

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Floofy   Canada. Nov 05 2017 07:02. Posts 8708


  On November 04 2017 04:31 Baalim wrote:
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Iol those are the worst rasons ever to bet GSP besides that he didnt do well vs good wrestlers before, however this was pre USADA, and GSP has never fought post-USADA, that combined with the fact that GSP has been retired for ages and smaller its an easy bet on Bisping


What did you say?

I think it was clear early on Bisping was super carefull about take downs, which is probably main reason GSP won r1.
r2 when Bisping started being less carefull, GSP started landing those take downs. Bisping then went back in carefull mode and got caught.

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Into Infinity   United States. Nov 05 2017 08:49. Posts 1884

i want to rub rose's head. she is one sexy beast


Baalim   Mexico. Nov 05 2017 09:25. Posts 34246


  On November 05 2017 06:02 Floofy wrote:
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What did you say?

I think it was clear early on Bisping was super carefull about take downs, which is probably main reason GSP won r1.
r2 when Bisping started being less carefull, GSP started landing those take downs. Bisping then went back in carefull mode and got caught.



LOL did you watch the fight? GSP looked like shit, incredibly slow, he was breathing heavy from the get go, gassed, his top control was so shit he got mauled from the bottom, the only reason why he won is because Bisping is also garbage who barely manages to beat an old as fuck Hendo ffs.

Even then in a rematch anybody with half a brain would snap bet Bisping, these two are going to fall faster than Silva in the division rankings in a near future.


That being said, the fight was entertaiing and cool as old times but skill wise was the lowest championship fight in a long time.

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Floofy   Canada. Nov 05 2017 10:25. Posts 8708


  On November 05 2017 08:25 Baalim wrote:
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LOL did you watch the fight? GSP looked like shit, incredibly slow, he was breathing heavy from the get go, gassed, his top control was so shit he got mauled from the bottom, the only reason why he won is because Bisping is also garbage who barely manages to beat an old as fuck Hendo ffs.

Even then in a rematch anybody with half a brain would snap bet Bisping, these two are going to fall faster than Silva in the division rankings in a near future.


That being said, the fight was entertaiing and cool as old times but skill wise was the lowest championship fight in a long time.



I would agree with you GSP is going to be in trouble if he tries to defend that belt against any top 5 dude. And i think he knows it.

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cariadon   Estonia. Nov 05 2017 11:19. Posts 4019

Wow Baal, you seem a little too upset about something.
I enjoyed the fight. GSP and Bisping had their moments.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 05 2017 12:02. Posts 9634

Just saw the fight and tbh feels like:

1.JJ got completely demolished

2.Cody gave TJ the fight by not instantly getting in his face in the 2nd round ... I mean sure you hate the guy but taunting and making fun of him doesn't really help you there.... TJ got lucky that there was no time 1st round or he would've lost most of the time - this deserves a rematch since its a pretty close fight - Cruz can wait a bit

3. GSP- Bisping is w/e since neither will keep the belt ... whole situation is really weird since they brought back GSP for a huge PPV, yet they didn't promote the event that well.. makes no sense ... maybe GSP could win vs Rockhold but thats about it (Whittaker prob has advantage in fights though I guess)

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Montrachet   Canada. Nov 05 2017 15:32. Posts 120

I am glad GSP won but I can't see him winning against the top 5 MW. Even though he was jacked, hes much more of a WW.


impact69   Mexico. Nov 05 2017 18:16. Posts 307


  On November 05 2017 11:02 Spitfiree wrote:
Just saw the fight and tbh feels like:

1.JJ got completely demolished

2.Cody gave TJ the fight by not instantly getting in his face in the 2nd round ... I mean sure you hate the guy but taunting and making fun of him doesn't really help you there.... TJ got lucky that there was no time 1st round or he would've lost most of the time - this deserves a rematch since its a pretty close fight - Cruz can wait a bit

3. GSP- Bisping is w/e since neither will keep the belt ... whole situation is really weird since they brought back GSP for a huge PPV, yet they didn't promote the event that well.. makes no sense ... maybe GSP could win vs Rockhold but thats about it (Whittaker prob has advantage in fights though I guess)



what makes you said that he could win against Rockhold?


iakim322   United States. Nov 05 2017 19:22. Posts 1335


  On November 05 2017 08:25 Baalim wrote:
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LOL did you watch the fight? GSP looked like shit, incredibly slow, he was breathing heavy from the get go, gassed, his top control was so shit he got mauled from the bottom, the only reason why he won is because Bisping is also garbage who barely manages to beat an old as fuck Hendo ffs.

Even then in a rematch anybody with half a brain would snap bet Bisping, these two are going to fall faster than Silva in the division rankings in a near future.


That being said, the fight was entertaiing and cool as old times but skill wise was the lowest championship fight in a long time.



Must be a weird thing to see everything in only absolutes


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 05 2017 20:32. Posts 9634


  On November 05 2017 17:16 impact69 wrote:
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what makes you said that he could win against Rockhold?



Rockhold seems pretty inconsistent in his performance.


impact69   Mexico. Nov 05 2017 23:42. Posts 307


  On November 05 2017 19:32 Spitfiree wrote:
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Rockhold seems pretty inconsistent in his performance.



I don't know why people sleep on Rockhold. He overlooked Bisping and he started slow against Branch, but other than that, he has destroyed his competition so far.


Floofy   Canada. Nov 05 2017 23:59. Posts 8708

I don't think GSP has much of a chance against RockHold.

If Bisping was able to make GSP a bloody mess from his back, imagine what RockHold can do to him. RockHold's BJJ is really good.
RockHold's wrestling is also very solid, won't be easy to take it to the ground.
And GSP isn't known as a guy with KO power.

But i think that if GSP does defend his belt, he pretty much has to begin with Whitaker. And i think that's one of his toughest matchup.
Whitaker has shown he has amazing TDD. And his standup is probably the best right now at MW.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 06 2017 00:41. Posts 9634

I'm not saying GSP is better, I'm saying he might have a chance against him..whereas Whittaker will simply destroy him 10 out of 10 times.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Nov 06 2017 02:30. Posts 6817


  On November 05 2017 11:02 Spitfiree wrote:
Just saw the fight and tbh feels like:

1.JJ got completely demolished

2.Cody gave TJ the fight by not instantly getting in his face in the 2nd round ... I mean sure you hate the guy but taunting and making fun of him doesn't really help you there.... TJ got lucky that there was no time 1st round or he would've lost most of the time - this deserves a rematch since its a pretty close fight - Cruz can wait a bit

3. GSP- Bisping is w/e since neither will keep the belt ... whole situation is really weird since they brought back GSP for a huge PPV, yet they didn't promote the event that well.. makes no sense ... maybe GSP could win vs Rockhold but thats about it (Whittaker prob has advantage in fights though I guess)


1) Sad about JJ, though I like Rose as well. I think JJ comes back tho.

Hope they do Rose vs Andrade in the mean time, and give JJ a tune-up or two to get back into contention.

2) Hm, I dont think I want TJ vs Garbrandt 2 at once... Cruz doesn't have that much time left, let's get him in there again if he can get past Rivera. Or if they can do DJ/TJ that's cool too.

3) Rockhold seems like a bad matchup... He's even bigger than Bisping isn't he? And his ground game is insane from top. If the fight ends up there... not good.


  On November 05 2017 08:25 Baalim wrote:
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LOL did you watch the fight? GSP looked like shit, incredibly slow, he was breathing heavy from the get go, gassed, his top control was so shit he got mauled from the bottom, the only reason why he won is because Bisping is also garbage who barely manages to beat an old as fuck Hendo ffs.

Even then in a rematch anybody with half a brain would snap bet Bisping, these two are going to fall faster than Silva in the division rankings in a near future.


That being said, the fight was entertaiing and cool as old times but skill wise was the lowest championship fight in a long time.


I don't think his top control was shit at all. He just looked a bit too small/short to control him properly.

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 06 2017 08:49. Posts 34246


  On November 05 2017 10:19 cariadon wrote:
Wow Baal, you seem a little too upset about something.
I enjoyed the fight. GSP and Bisping had their moments.



I enjoyed it too as I said it was a fun fight, but I was replying to a specific post

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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 06 2017 08:50. Posts 34246


  On November 06 2017 01:30 TianYuan wrote:

I don't think his top control was shit at all. He just looked a bit too small/short to control him properly.



He was considered the best wrestler in MMA and possibly the best top position too, and he got wrecked from the bottom and then Bisping simply stood up

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cariadon   Estonia. Nov 06 2017 12:03. Posts 4019

He did take Bisping down though. He got cut with and elbow in top position... wouldn't use the word mauled. GSP couldn't step over the leg and probably realised he wasn't getting anywhere. I guess theres a difference if you take someone down out of nowhere vs punching or kicking and then get top position.
Garbrandt got too cocky after brief success, showboating is the pitfall of this sport. Who can keep it together when theres blood has the advantage. Jon Jones pounced on DC when he sensed blood. Some guys have a knack for finishing dudes. Others showboat and go for decisions.

First Darren Till and now that Brazilian guy... holy shit those guys are like brick houses. Hendrix is a wash, landed a couple of lefts and then nothing. Worse than nothing, couldn't make weight etc.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 06 2017 23:33. Posts 9634

I'm pretty sure GSP's eye was already cut and he could barely see by it due to the blood when taking down Bisping, which is kinda huge


whammbot   Belarus. Nov 07 2017 01:20. Posts 517

Bisping was surprisngly tired by round 2, I bet on him for his insane cardio and the guy shows up like Demian Maia's last performance. Never liked Bisping, I hate him now more than ever haha


whammbot   Belarus. Nov 07 2017 05:56. Posts 517

Rockhold would murder GSP. Height Reach, kicks and topnotch ground game.


Floofy   Canada. Nov 07 2017 09:46. Posts 8708


  On November 07 2017 00:20 whammbot wrote:
Bisping was surprisngly tired by round 2, I bet on him for his insane cardio and the guy shows up like Demian Maia's last performance. Never liked Bisping, I hate him now more than ever haha



They fought at a very fast pace, and Bisping was clearly the fresher fighter of the 2

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;( 

Floofy   Canada. Nov 07 2017 09:53. Posts 8708


  On November 05 2017 23:41 Spitfiree wrote:
I'm not saying GSP is better, I'm saying he might have a chance against him..whereas Whittaker will simply destroy him 10 out of 10 times.



not 100% sure, but i think i disagree.

What's GSP's road to victory against RockHold? I just see none. If GSP had poor top control against Bisping and got all blooded up in 10 seconds, i'm afraid about what RockHold will do to him on the ground,

I don't think GSP can beat Whitaker.
Whitaker hits harder than Bisping, has better striking, and is harder to take down. But i do think its possible.

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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 10 2017 09:54. Posts 13030

Rekrul is a newb 

 



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