whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2017 05:06. Posts 11625
zvsz is just a coinflip between these two but like i said larva is basically a subpar player in MMM but he's got tons of experience playing Flash and other top guys so he's really developed an uncanny ability to craft sneaky strats with all that playtime vs Flash (coz daily he's trying to break a genius player who has all his bases covered). hero is the superior player overall but he's kinda too soft a zerg to hold up vs top 5 guys. Flash is getting great odds -1.5, +117 vs Bisu so I'll just bet on that
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2017 06:27. Posts 11625
The AI bot's 4 pool economy build is going to revolutionize ZvP.
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2017 08:42. Posts 11625
needs a bit of work to defend like flash and cover it's bases early. once it reaches 3 base macro and efficiency kicks in, it's going to be interesting
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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Oct 31 2017 13:52. Posts 3093
the bots have amazing macro and watching them micro 40 individual mutas at the same time, that's something. But their decision-making is horrendous. I'm not really gonna be impressed by them if the only reason why they compete is that they literally have more than 10000 apm - right now, they have 10000 apm and still can't compete. If a bot however is able to compete with humans on an equal mechanical footing I would be immensely impressed and consider it a far greater achievement than the chess or go or poker AIs.
lol POKER
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whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2017 14:22. Posts 11625
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NMcNasty   United States. Oct 31 2017 17:15. Posts 2039
A little disappointing but whatever. Flash truly does make Terran seem imbalanced. Expand, get siege mode, make some turrets, push out, win. Not sure what the best response is but just regular zealot/goon/arbiter doesn’t seem to cut it. Maybe psi storm or just have carriers be mandatory.
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blackjacki2   United States. Oct 31 2017 17:54. Posts 2581
Bisu made a couple mistakes game 2 -- too many probes and poor stasis in the first attack. I think if he had stasis'ed the back tanks instead of the front ones, and had a few less probes to allow for a slightly larger army when maxed out Flash pushed he could have held the push, and that would give him an advantage going forward, DTs to stop the 4th/5th bases for Flash and quicker remaxing on 5-6 bases. But yea, Flash makes the matchup seem completely imbalanced.
What I'm most disappointed about is that Flash vs Larva and Bisu vs Hero was the matchups everyone wanted to see. I don't really care which one is the finals vs the 3/4 match, but wish the matches were reversed.
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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FrinkX   United States. Oct 31 2017 21:29. Posts 7561
i really really hate this guy solo casting. i'm switching to the kor version if he's doing the next one. disappointing series given who was playing, hopefully bisu plays better next time
bitch on a pension suck my dong
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whamm!   Albania. Nov 01 2017 00:27. Posts 11625
WHere the helll are the Tastosis duo? Afreeca trying to save some money here or did the ASL didn't really live up to the hype?
There's pretty much always two different english streams I think. Just switch to the second one that doesn't have the annoying noob casting without Artosis. It's not great either but it's a great relief coming from that guy.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Nov 01 2017 00:31. Posts 3093
Tastosis were busy with Blizzcon. I expect they are back for the finals and third player match. (I don't actually know this for sure)
lol POKER
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PoorUser   United States. Nov 01 2017 03:42. Posts 7471
Bisu made a couple mistakes game 2 -- too many probes and poor stasis in the first attack. I think if he had stasis'ed the back tanks instead of the front ones, and had a few less probes to allow for a slightly larger army when maxed out Flash pushed he could have held the push, and that would give him an advantage going forward, DTs to stop the 4th/5th bases for Flash and quicker remaxing on 5-6 bases. But yea, Flash makes the matchup seem completely imbalanced.
What I'm most disappointed about is that Flash vs Larva and Bisu vs Hero was the matchups everyone wanted to see. I don't really care which one is the finals vs the 3/4 match, but wish the matches were reversed.
also pretty sure from his arbiter movements he got stasis first but i think maybe its better to get recall first when you are that far ahead. either way a bit of a disappointing series but flash just makes people look bad so thats to be expected
Gambler Emeritus
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whammbot   Belarus. Nov 01 2017 04:57. Posts 518
Bisu vs Larva is the only match worth betting on, obv a flash vs hero final would suck
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ggplz   Sweden. Nov 01 2017 15:04. Posts 16784
Felt like Bisu was playing worse than usual here but Flash was on fire, more than usual, just incredible control at every position and tactical awareness while macroing like a beast. Very very hard to beat someone who plays so perfectly.
Is Terran OP? Maybe slightly. I think the problem is most other Terran pros aren't capable of executing it as Flash does, it's not really comparable to any other historical pro situation either I think because the skill of all players has increased so much. But then what do you do? You can't really nerf a race because of 1 player. We just have to accept him as the champion for his truly exceptional talent. I feel that Flash definitely has a strong psychological advantage vs most opponents and pros like Bisu seem to be quite fragile when it comes to that. Look at his previous games vs Baxter, he's like a different player.
What sc rm really needs right now is to reincite passion from talented players like Jaedong and put Larva on an intensive ZvZ training program. I also think there should be some discussion on rebalances and bug fixing.
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
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whamm!   Albania. Nov 01 2017 15:27. Posts 11625
vultures should cost slightly more,
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YoMeR   United States. Nov 04 2017 07:37. Posts 12435
omg who is this solo noob casting. he's so fucking bad it's depressing.
eZ Life.
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whammbot   Belarus. Nov 05 2017 02:24. Posts 518
that guy literally killed the ASL lmao
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 06 2017 04:18. Posts 1631
i just love checkin in on day9, him and his brother really kick ass met them wcgusa been too long marshall [dak]tnt and i got so fuckin stoned back then it was awesome ahaha