- Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Junior dos Santos was expected to face Francis Ngannou, but on August 18 it was announced that he was pulled from the card after being notified by USADA of a potential doping violation. He was flagged after an out-of-competition drug test conducted August 10. Dos Santos tested positive for hydrochlorothiazide and his team is currently working on testing 2 supplements as a possible source for it. In turn, Ngannou was removed from the card after promotion officials deemed that a suitable opponent could not be arranged.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 04 2017 06:21. Posts 13044
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First impression of the match-ups:
• Johnson > Borg
• Nunes > Shevchenko
• RDA > Magny
• Pedro > Latifi
• Stephens > Melendez
• McMann > Vieira
• Cejudo > Reis
• Smith > Moras
• Tucker > Glenn
• Clarke > White
• Henrique vs. Bhullar (dunno)
• Martins > Johnson
They should just do Magny vs RDA and call it a night
Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 06 2017 03:50. Posts 13044
Rekrul is a newb
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iakim322 United States. Sep 09 2017 02:45. Posts 1335
Never seen Viera fight. What's the take on her and why is McMann only a 2:1 favorite? Seems like McMann is just too physically strong and stomps any non elite 135'er woman
Think I want to parlay Cejudo with McMann
Going to be small on RDA and larger for Pedro and Valentina
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iakim322 United States. Sep 09 2017 03:03. Posts 1335
Just watched weigh in. Comical height difference between Magny and RDA. RDA filled into 170 nicely for his frame though. Looks bulked up but not unnecessarily
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 09 2017 04:17. Posts 13044
Amanda Nunes (135) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (133.5)
Neil Magny (169.5) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (170)
Ilir Latifi (205.5) vs. Tyson Pedro (205.5)
Jeremy Stephens (146) vs. Gilbert Melendez (146)
Henry Cejudo (125.5) vs. Wilson Reis (125)
Sara McMann (135.5) vs. Ketlen Vieira (136)
Sarah Moras (135) vs. Ashlee Evans-Smith (135.5)
Gavin Tucker (145.5) vs. Rick Glenn (145.5)
Mitch Clarke (155.5) vs. Alex White (155.5)
Luis Henrique (244.5) vs. Arjan Bhullar (239)
Kajan Johnson (155) vs. Adriano Martins (156)
Demetrious Johnson vs. Ray Borg is off due to Ray Borg feeling sick during fight week and pulling out of the fight. It was most likely due to a shitty weight cut, which is normal for Borg...
I don't think he was in the position of refusing anything after refusing a supermatch
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iakim322 United States. Sep 09 2017 17:41. Posts 1335
It came out that they didn't even go to offer him a replacement
Probably a combination of both rematches being recent and one sided so impossible to market and them knowing DJ is meticulous so highly unlikely he accepts a last minute replacement
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 09 2017 18:24. Posts 13044
On September 09 2017 16:40 Spitfiree wrote:
I don't think he was in the position of refusing anything after refusing a supermatch
DJ. vs. TJ isn't a superfight/supermatch.
TJ doesn't have a belt, he isn't a super famous fighter who sells a lot of pay-per-views, and he could've easily missed weight and ruined the entire title defense opportunity for DJ. If TJ missed weight, he would've still wanted to fight DJ for no title, which would've made DJ look like the bad guy for not wanting to fight, even thought it would make sense to not fight at that point since the goal is to break the record with his next title defense, not just win a fight.
On September 09 2017 16:40 Spitfiree wrote:
I don't think he was in the position of refusing anything after refusing a supermatch
Idk why he's refusing super matchs. He should take example in Conor that actually shows he has balls. Sure, Conor fails sometimes but fans love him.
This card is really awfull for a PPV imo. Only fight that moves my needle is RDA vs Magny
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iakim322 United States. Sep 09 2017 19:26. Posts 1335
That was baffling. That TJ would possibly miss weight as a reason isnt a strong enough reason considering they went with a Borg who no1 knows and who has gone ahead and actually missed weight 3 times. TJ isn't super famous but he's definitely not just a nobody in the public eye and I think enough people would've realized there's finally a real threat to DJ thus creating at least some sort of public interest and tension in a fight of his. Something he complains about ('need more $$$') and something that's been missing in pretty much all his fights. I enjoy watching Dj but the reality is that most people don't and as long as he keeps being stubborn about just beating up 125ers that no1 but hardcore fans know, nothing will change for him no matter how many records he breaks
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iakim322 United States. Sep 09 2017 19:33. Posts 1335
I almost think this card was set up to fail because Dana White was irritated with DJ not accepting the TJ fight("see how many ppvs you sell" and with Nunes for pulling out. Put them both together and almost like an I told you so when the card fails on the market. Pretty conspiracy theoryish but I wouldn't put it past Dana. And honestly, I can almost agree with the notion
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 09 2017 19:39. Posts 13044
On September 09 2017 18:26 iakim322 wrote:
That was baffling. That TJ would possibly miss weight as a reason isnt a strong enough reason considering they went with a Borg who no1 knows and who has gone ahead and actually missed weight 3 times.
While Borg has missed weight multiple times, he is still a 125er who has made the weight before and has several fight in this weight class. TJ has never fought at 125, and doesn't look like he has much extra weight to cut when he makes weight at 135.
While TJ vs. DJ would be a fun fight, you'd just be hoping TJ could cut 10 extra pounds to fight for the belt, which is something he has never done it before in his entire MMA career.
Hm, I thought he was also offered the Garbrandt fight upon him returning from injury, but I'm mistaken. That would've been a cool fight.
Anyways DJ wants to get paid because he s good at what he does, he completely disregards the public's interest which is obviously a terrible mindset when you're a professional entertainer. He s the exact opposite of McGregor when you think about it. His request of receiving the purse, if TJ misses weight was absolutely fine though, imo.
Got an offtopic question - what happens to Whittaker? He has to wait a year before GSP & Bisping happens and then the winner taking a few months break only to unify the belt or what? Or are they just gonna have the division run with 2 belts with a defence of the interim belt as well? Super weird.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 10 2017 00:02. Posts 13044
My final picks:
• Nunes > Shevchenko
• RDA > Magny
• Pedro > Latifi
• Stephens > Melendez
• McMann > Vieira
• Cejudo > Reis
• Smith > Moras
• Tucker > Glenn
• White > Clarke
• Bhullar > Henrique
• Martins > Johnson
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 10 2017 00:29. Posts 13044
Damn...
Most of us just got CRUSHED with that Adriano Martins loss via TKO...
On September 09 2017 18:26 iakim322 wrote:
That was baffling. That TJ would possibly miss weight as a reason isnt a strong enough reason considering they went with a Borg who no1 knows and who has gone ahead and actually missed weight 3 times. TJ isn't super famous but he's definitely not just a nobody in the public eye and I think enough people would've realized there's finally a real threat to DJ thus creating at least some sort of public interest and tension in a fight of his. Something he complains about ('need more $$$') and something that's been missing in pretty much all his fights. I enjoy watching Dj but the reality is that most people don't and as long as he keeps being stubborn about just beating up 125ers that no1 but hardcore fans know, nothing will change for him no matter how many records he breaks
I think its not so much that people hating watching DJ, its that DJ never gets real contenders so it gets boring really fast. Its like if McGregor after defeating Aldo decided to sit on his ass and defend the 145 belt forever. There would obviously be interest for his defense against Frankie, maybe a Holloway rematch, but it would quickly get old if he beats all competition easily.
If DJ moved up for a super fight i think there definetly would be interest.
On September 09 2017 22:48 Spitfiree wrote:
Hm, I thought he was also offered the Garbrandt fight upon him returning from injury, but I'm mistaken. That would've been a cool fight.
Anyways DJ wants to get paid because he s good at what he does, he completely disregards the public's interest which is obviously a terrible mindset when you're a professional entertainer. He s the exact opposite of McGregor when you think about it. His request of receiving the purse, if TJ misses weight was absolutely fine though, imo.
Got an offtopic question - what happens to Whittaker? He has to wait a year before GSP & Bisping happens and then the winner taking a few months break only to unify the belt or what? Or are they just gonna have the division run with 2 belts with a defence of the interim belt as well? Super weird.
Exactly, his mindset is the total opposite. Its like McGregor thinks "hmm what fight will i do next that will blow the fans's mind" and he doesn't seem to care so much if there is holes in his record. DJ on the other hand seems obsessed with a perfect record and seems to think "who's the easiest guy i can easily beat next".
On September 10 2017 04:55 ERASA wrote:
I feel the same, but it doesnt feel like a real robbery...
it doesnt feel like a robbery because Valentina didnt hurt Nunes, but it was a clear cut win, Nunes just landed like 3 jabs and weak kicks and when she took her down Valentina landed from the bottom many hard punches and Nunes didnt land a single one.
Fuck these judges, Valentina will murder the 125 division.
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Minsk United States. Sep 10 2017 06:21. Posts 1558
I thought Amanda Nunes dominated that fight and won all 5 rounds. 50-45.
Watched it with GF, we both felt that way. We were shocked, to hear it was a split decision.
On September 10 2017 05:21 Minsk wrote:
I thought Amanda Nunes dominated that fight and won all 5 rounds. 50-45.
Watched it with GF, we both felt that way. We were shocked, to hear it was a split decision.
lol how on earth would you give Nunes the 4th? she didnt land a single punch and she got tagged many times
On September 10 2017 23:24 whamm! wrote:
thats the only pick that won money for me lol
like 5 small bets all losers
sonofabitch magny what the hell just took a dive
RDA was -195 and honneslty in my mind it was a close fight. But RDA made it look easy.
I think UFC has proven us time and time again that raw talent > size. Maybe this can teach us a lesson on what will happen in GSP vs Bisping. GSP arguably best WW of all time, and Bisping had trouble against a 45yo Hendo.
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iakim322 United States. Sep 11 2017 17:02. Posts 1335
Bisping's game isn't based at all around size though and I'd almost throw out a Hendo matchup in comparison. The size could factor into helping him fend off GSP's takedowns though. I can see the match just playing out almost entirely on the feet where it's going to be GSP's jab heavy game vs Bisping's technical boxing/kickboxing with Bisping having to adjust to someone a good bit faster than him for once
Lost a good bit on Valentina. Pretty bitter about the judges. The fight and belt swinging on that 'takedown' in round 5 is everything that's wrong with MMA judging in my opinion. All Amanda did that last round was push forward slowly and get countered until she almost accidentally reversed a takedown, took the back though doing nothing with it and then got Valentina down only to lay around to get punched in the face some more. But because she was on top, she gets the round. Archaic judging. One day, judges will be able to remember the 3 other minutes of a round even if a takedown happens, will properly give credit to strikes landed from the bottom, and will not overly give credit for a takedown that serves no purpose besides to kill time. One day
Just saw the ME, I'd say it was a pretty clear 4-1. Might be 3-2 too, I could see round 5 going to Schevchenko... Nunes did take her down and took her back but did 0 damage, while Shevchenko actually hit her quite a lot and damage> control so...
On September 12 2017 09:42 Spitfiree wrote:
Just saw the ME, I'd say it was a pretty clear 4-1. Might be 3-2 too, I could see round 5 going to Schevchenko... Nunes did take her down and took her back but did 0 damage, while Shevchenko actually hit her quite a lot and damage> control so...
I gave nunez the 1st and the other 4 to valentina
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Minsk United States. Sep 13 2017 23:25. Posts 1558
Control should be heavily valued. You can't control somebody stronger than you.
It's like, can an ant control a lion? No.
Can a lion control an ant? Yes.
To have control, you by definition have to be stronger. I thought Amanda Nunes controlled the whole fight, so she by definition wasn't weaker than the challenger.
The challenger wasn't able to break her control. Retaining her the win and title. Pretty simple to me.
and with Nunes for pulling out. Put them both together and almost like an I told you so when the card fails on the market. Pretty conspiracy theoryish but I wouldn't put it past Dana. And honestly, I can almost agree with the notion
