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Loco   Canada. May 19 2020 23:23. Posts 20963

When I google his name and cuba, he has a Jacobin article that shows up where he is not "praising Cuba", he was praising their handling of the coronavirus and their long-standing tradition of sending doctors around the world during crises. They have more doctors per capita than anywhere else in the world, and they have done a lot of great humanitarian work. He compared their response to that of far-right countries like Brazil who were flat out denialists and who turned off the aid based on ideological reasons. It seems disingenous to say he was making a case for "loving Cuba" as a whole when he ends his article acknowledging their lack of democracy in several respects.

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Baalim   Mexico. May 19 2020 23:28. Posts 34250


  On May 19 2020 14:28 Spitfiree wrote:
Think he's just viewing this from a rational standpoint without being emotional, which makes sense? Your hypothetical situation would only end up hurting yourself further and accomplish nothing else. It's self-imposed masochism for some hypothetical justice.



That is not rational, its a shitty attempt of rationalization.

If it were then gargling his balls for $1,000 bucks is also rational since, you are not helping him since anybody else would do it so he is getting his balls gargled but you get $1,000 and since apprently there is no such thing as self respect, there are no downsides, ez $1,000... very rational -__-.

If somebody murders your entire family you dont buy their products, you dont garble his balls, you avenge your family and if this isn't crystal clear you are a pathetic coward.

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Baalim   Mexico. May 19 2020 23:35. Posts 34250


  On May 19 2020 22:23 Loco wrote:
When I google his name and cuba, he has a Jacobin article that shows up where he is not "praising Cuba", he was praising their handling of the coronavirus and their long-standing tradition of sending doctors around the world during crises. They have more doctors per capita than anywhere else in the world, and they have done a lot of great humanitarian work. He compared their response to that of far-right countries like Brazil who were flat out denialists and who turned off the aid based on ideological reasons. It seems disingenous to say he was making a case for "loving Cuba" as a whole when he ends his article acknowledging their lack of democracy in several respects.



Are you saying his endorsements of these figures are highly contextual and may widely vary over time, because that is progressivism? lol.

To answer the question of why these leftits praise Cuba is because most haven't been there, it is an absolute depressing hellhole, the rabid poverty is like nothing they've seen, you can't walk a block without having a guy trying to swindle you and an underaged girl trying to prostitue herself to you. At least these people who haven't been there have the excuse of ignorance, but the ones who have require a level of insane denialism or cynicism.

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Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 00:03. Posts 20963


  On May 19 2020 00:49 Baalim wrote:
No wonder why you are so system-focused and always spare the individual responsibility its because you are such a pusilanomous cunt that you would lick the asshole of your literal family murderer for a few bucks.

This is just fucking sad Loco wtf.



The last personal responsibility guru whom you regarded highly and deemed a "valuable ally" turned himself into a vegetable with some experimental detox with the help of his moronic daughter because he couldn't handle the stress and anxiety that this world generated in him. Following that event, she was doing everything she could to deny/remove personal responsibility from the equation. Let that sink in.

Licking someone's asshole for a few bucks? LOL. Listen man, I purchased my Kindle second-hand. That's what you do in order to "save a few bucks". It doesn't benefit Bezos. And it's not just a few bucks, I have saved literally thousands of dollars by knowing how to pirate any book and use the device over several years. And you're all about making ethical purchases, right? Well, you'd probably agree that it's more ecologically-friendly to not purchase printed books and make people deliver them to your door, so there is an ethical imperative to do so.

Why should my hypothetical personal vendetta against a guy who is shielded from any possible form of revenge trump my ability to keep doing something that has positive real world consequences for not only my own well-being but environmentally as well? Why should I believe that I am such a special snowflake that I am entitled to make less ethical decisions due to my feelings about something that happened and which I had no control over?

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/05/2020 00:08

Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 00:20. Posts 20963


  On May 19 2020 22:35 Baalim wrote:
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Are you saying his endorsements of these figures are highly contextual and may widely vary over time, because that is progressivism? lol.

To answer the question of why these leftits praise Cuba is because most haven't been there, it is an absolute depressing hellhole, the rabid poverty is like nothing they've seen, you can't walk a block without having a guy trying to swindle you and an underaged girl trying to prostitue herself to you. At least these people who haven't been there have the excuse of ignorance, but the ones who have require a level of insane denialism or cynicism.


You are literally making things up. Who are these "figures"? You haven't read the article and neither did Erling. I've read it and there's nothing about him praising Cuba or the previous Cuban revolutionaries. Bergis is a democratic socialist, so by my definition, not even a leftist (which is synonymous with anti-capitalist). He is a center-left Bernie bro.

The leftists who do praise Cuba do so entirely out of ideological alignment, as they are almost exclusively Marxist-Leninists. It has nothing to do with them not knowing about the poverty there. It's because their sole focus is opposing US hegemony. The libertarian left does not praise Cuba.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/05/2020 00:20

Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 00:38. Posts 20963


  On May 19 2020 22:28 Baalim wrote:
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That is not rational, its a shitty attempt of rationalization.

If it were then gargling his balls for $1,000 bucks is also rational since, you are not helping him since anybody else would do it so he is getting his balls gargled but you get $1,000 and since apprently there is no such thing as self respect, there are no downsides, ez $1,000... very rational -__-.

If somebody murders your entire family you dont buy their products, you dont garble his balls, you avenge your family and if this isn't crystal clear you are a pathetic coward.


Jesus, you really can't make analogies. It's in these moments that we can really tell just how much Molyneux and you have in common.

Here's the reality. Even though I'd buy the Kindle second-hand, if I were to buy a new one directly from Amazon, Bezos would make less than 0.0000000001 of his total net worth through my purchase. And this is with me charitably calculating that he'd make a direct gain of $20, while it's probably far less. Sorry, but it's just not rational to think that number makes a difference. You can act all principled and shit and do your machismo act but you can't argue with the numbers.

As for revenge, there is none possible, hence the self-delusion that your market-based act of resistance would serve a purpose. You've watched too many gangster movies. Move on to some Studio Ghibli animes instead and edify yourself.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/05/2020 00:45

Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 00:57. Posts 20963

Found another very principled egghead that's part of the Baalim school of economics and who also makes the best arguments ever

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 20 2020 00:58. Posts 9634


  On May 19 2020 23:03 Loco wrote:
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The last personal responsibility guru whom you regarded highly and deemed a "valuable ally" turned himself into a vegetable with some experimental detox with the help of his moronic daughter because he couldn't handle the stress and anxiety that this world generated in him. Following that event, she was doing everything she could to deny/remove personal responsibility from the equation. Let that sink in.



Assuming you're talking to JP, what has happened to that guy


Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 20 2020 02:11. Posts 5296

free markets are supposed to reduce profits to $0 anyway, (perfectly competitive ones), celebrating extreme inequality alongside free markets has always seemed logically inconsistent to me.


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RiKD    United States. May 20 2020 02:35. Posts 8538


  On May 19 2020 23:58 Spitfiree wrote:
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Assuming you're talking to JP, what has happened to that guy



What happened to Jordan B Peterson

Now, it isn't as clear cut as the article states imo because The Grift is strong with Mikhaila. I wonder where she got that from?


RiKD    United States. May 20 2020 02:55. Posts 8538


  On May 19 2020 23:57 Loco wrote:
Found another very principled egghead that's part of the Baalim school of economics and who also makes the best arguments ever




It's rather embarrassing but in say 2011-2012 I religiously watched Shark Tank and read Kevin O'Leary's book... I think it was called "Cold Hard Truths." I was a big fan. I would say the show and the book actually helped a substantial amount in my business dealings at that time. It would be interesting to see if I was the business unit Sales Director at this point instead of sitting in my parent's dining room typing this out on LP if I would agree with above video. I cringe that it would even be up for debate.


RiKD    United States. May 20 2020 02:58. Posts 8538

Also, Baal,

What could you possibly do to harm Besos?

You will do nothing. Even if you somehow developed some sort of a plan and had the machismo to try and pull it off you end up in prison or dead and the Washington Post, et al. spins it anyway they like.


Baalim   Mexico. May 20 2020 05:26. Posts 34250


  On May 20 2020 01:58 RiKD wrote:
Also, Baal,

What could you possibly do to harm Besos?

You will do nothing. Even if you somehow developed some sort of a plan and had the machismo to try and pull it off you end up in prison or dead and the Washington Post, et al. spins it anyway they like.



If he muredered my entire family? I'd kill him, what kind of worm would allow their loved ones to recieve such fate with no retribution.

Now that you mentioned JBP this reminds me when he talks about harmless men.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 20 2020 06:59. Posts 5296


  On May 20 2020 04:26 Baalim wrote:
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If he muredered my entire family? I'd kill him, what kind of worm would allow their loved ones to recieve such fate with no retribution.

Now that you mentioned JBP this reminds me when he talks about harmless men.


I choose justice over revenge. You could just go to the police and get bezos arrested, (if you live in the same country). Personally i think the progress in the legal system since King John and magna carta is one of the high points of western civilization, in this i'd agree with steven pinker. Sticking to legal principles over personal revenge shows strength imo, it's taken a long time for society to realize this.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 20 2020 15:16. Posts 9634


  On May 20 2020 04:26 Baalim wrote:
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If he muredered my entire family? I'd kill him, what kind of worm would allow their loved ones to recieve such fate with no retribution.



It's cute if you think that. Would you perhaps suicide into him or publicly execute him after passing through his layers of security? Or work hard into his company to be able to someday get close enough to him to possibly murder him without leaving a shred of evidence back to you?

Perhaps build an innovative new startup, which Amazon will want to buy, but then your final ask is that Bezos meets with you personally? Perhaps you'll stare him in the eye and ask him "Do you remember me? Twenty years ago you met me, you met me and my family and murdered them all in cold blood, but I'm the lone survivor you dogshit, bald fucker" while stabbing him with a sharp pencil through the heart, feeling his hot blood run into your hands down your sleeves?

Or perhaps nothing will happen at all and you'll end up harming yourself even further? Now remember, attempting to execute revenge and failing is something completely different than actually doing it. Either way real life is not a movie. And we're getting off topic here and even if you do OPT IN for a revenge the most optimal way would be to think it through for a long time and use all resources at your disposal, which most likely means you'll have to use his products and/or services making your point about the free market completely pointless.

 Last edit: 20/05/2020 15:16

VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 20 2020 15:58. Posts 5108


  On May 19 2020 23:57 Loco wrote:
Found another very principled egghead that's part of the Baalim school of economics and who also makes the best arguments ever




I heard 90% of millionaires in America did NOT inherit it. So that means you can be "inequal" too. Just start taking responsibility, increase your income, save more money, get out of debt, spend less on shit.. I will at least try this myself, complaining about unfairness does not help the process. In Canada you have all the opportunities in the world !

Someone in Bangladesh probably works 2-3 times harder than you do. And is paid 1/10th. So, be carefull when you talk about how unfair the world is. You live in Canada and should easily retire as a millionaire.

:DLast edit: 20/05/2020 16:04

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 20 2020 16:15. Posts 9634

You completely missed Loco's point, its amazing lmao


VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 20 2020 16:46. Posts 5108


  On May 20 2020 15:15 Spitfiree wrote:
You completely missed Loco's point, its amazing lmao



You are allowed to complain, cuz you live in Bulgaria. (I think you make decent money thou?)
People born in Canada and Norway are not allowed to complain about inequality, we already won the lottery. And we should easily retire as millionaires. If we dont, there is no one to blame but ourself and our own stupid decisions in life. I made plenty mistakes, but hopefully I got it right now in 2020.

:DLast edit: 20/05/2020 16:50

Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 20:10. Posts 20963


  On May 20 2020 01:35 RiKD wrote:
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What happened to Jordan B Peterson

Now, it isn't as clear cut as the article states imo because The Grift is strong with Mikhaila. I wonder where she got that from?



lol, reading that article reminded me that I forgot to mention that they also blamed Western doctors for failing him and decided to shun Western medicine as a result. Imagine being so desperate that you still blindly follow these false prophets of personal responsibility when they not only blame others like "the post-modernists and marxists" for the state of things, but also the professionals in the entirety of the Western world for their health issues. There's also a deep irony involved considering that he is a self-proclaimed classical liberal and "defender of Western values". Weren't these values responsible for modern medicine too?

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/05/2020 20:15

Loco   Canada. May 20 2020 20:19. Posts 20963


  On May 20 2020 15:46 VanDerMeyde wrote:
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You are allowed to complain, cuz you live in Bulgaria. (I think you make decent money thou?)
People born in Canada and Norway are not allowed to complain about inequality, we already won the lottery. And we should easily retire as millionaires. If we dont, there is no one to blame but ourself and our own stupid decisions in life. I made plenty mistakes, but hopefully I got it right now in 2020.



You're missing the entire point, which is not about complaining about not winning the lottery, but acknowledging that "the lottery" is destructive and rigged in favor of certain people. Celebrating a lottery that is not voluntary and is not fair is the problem highlighted in the video. It's about being morally corrupt, it's not related to an individual complaining about their personal finances.

I have no interest in retiring as a millionaire. That's not my idea of living a good life. Don't project what you think is worth pursuing onto me.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/05/2020 20:25

 
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