Nate is going to fight the same way whether or not he has a full camp. Conor is going to make many adjustments and Nate is going to make zero adjustments.
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i think connor is gonna over adjust and play it too safe.
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Stim_Abuser United States. Aug 10 2016 05:10. Posts 7499
I'm sure Nate brought in some powerful left handed boxers like Conor to spar with.
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PuertoRican United States. Aug 10 2016 05:45. Posts 13048
On August 10 2016 04:10 Stim_Abuser wrote:
I'm sure Nate brought in some powerful left handed boxers like Conor to spar with.
This is his latest video. If you're bored, there's a lot of other interesting videos on that YouTube channel, which is the official "Road to UFC 202" channel that Conor is paying for himself.
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PuertoRican United States. Aug 10 2016 22:34. Posts 13048
On August 06 2016 23:04 PuertoRican wrote:
• Sean Strickland out at UFC 202; promotion seeks new opponent for Tim Means.
• Sultan Aliev was expected to face Hyun Gyu Lim at the event. However, Aliev pulled out of the fight in early August citing a wrist injury. Lim will now face promotional newcomer Mike Perry.
Sabah Homasi steps in for Sean Strickland.
Homasi had a quick win over Jorge Patino last week. Patino stepped in on a few days notice himself, so it wasn't much of a fight.
Homasi throws with a lot of power, but isn't anything special. He's an outside fighter who isn't dangerous in the clinch, and has no ground game. He's facing a guy in Tim Means who is both good from the outside and even more deadly in the clinch, and uses foot trips/foot sweeps to get guys down to the ground whom don't have a wrestling background, so look for Homasi to end up on his back at some point if Means doesn't beat him on the feet.
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jvilla777 Australia. Aug 11 2016 12:48. Posts 1348
Neil Magny vs Lorenz Larkin is a sleeper match up, this fight is gonna be fire imo.
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
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traxamillion United States. Aug 11 2016 16:00. Posts 10468
magny should be on the main card, not fight pass
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iakim322 United States. Aug 11 2016 19:26. Posts 1335
They're just really pretty all in on pushing fight pass. Clearly a better fight than most with better name recognition outside the top 3 fights on the card
I'm having a little trouble picturing what this fight will look like. Not actually convinced their styles will mesh well
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PuertoRican United States. Aug 12 2016 04:45. Posts 13048
I think Diaz should be substantial favorite over McGoat. If Conor does not get the finish in the first 2 rounds He is doomed in this fight and I this is a very hard task to ask.
Mcgregor does not have the crippling kicks to trouble Diaz, not he can grapple with him without being in huge danger of getting finished. Also he can't just sit back and counterpunch as Diaz is not some reckless brawler who is going to run face first into a KO blow. Not to mention that this is not his style, He is a pressure fighter himslelf and sitting back will sooner or later create all sort of troubles when he slows down and starts eating jabs and 1-2s, by the longer, bigger and rangier fighter.
Size advantage also is going to be important factor. I read somewhere that Nate is walking around 200 pounds and that is huge difference with Conor who at his biggest weight is probably walking around 175.
All things considered I can't believe Diaz is at dog odds here. The only thing that I wonder is should I place my bet pre fight or livebet after the 1st round, when I expect Nate odds to be even juicier. Big value, imo.
this fight won't be like the last one. i can see mcgregor taking it easy in the first 2 rounds, conserving his energy. but i'm biased. i made a bet that this goes over 2.5 rounds.
Stim_Abuser United States. Aug 13 2016 20:29. Posts 7499
On August 12 2016 21:12 northsails wrote:
I think Diaz should be substantial favorite over McGoat. If Conor does not get the finish in the first 2 rounds He is doomed in this fight and I this is a very hard task to ask.
Mcgregor does not have the crippling kicks to trouble Diaz, not he can grapple with him without being in huge danger of getting finished. Also he can't just sit back and counterpunch as Diaz is not some reckless brawler who is going to run face first into a KO blow. Not to mention that this is not his style, He is a pressure fighter himslelf and sitting back will sooner or later create all sort of troubles when he slows down and starts eating jabs and 1-2s, by the longer, bigger and rangier fighter.
Size advantage also is going to be important factor. I read somewhere that Nate is walking around 200 pounds and that is huge difference with Conor who at his biggest weight is probably walking around 175.
All things considered I can't believe Diaz is at dog odds here. The only thing that I wonder is should I place my bet pre fight or livebet after the 1st round, when I expect Nate odds to be even juicier. Big value, imo.
Also like Larkin over Magny.
Agree with this for the most part but I hardly doubt Nate is walking close to 200 pounds. He might have been a month ago but I doubt he's planning on cutting 25+ pounds to make weight lol. Thats bigger than many MWs.
I agree tho that a more patient Conor is just a Conor that is sitting more at Diaz range getting cracked by 1-2's. To avoid getting hit Conor needs to move in and out a lot and circle away from the cage etc and that takes a lot of energy. So if he tries to be efficient and not move as much I see him getting hit a lot more.
I'd like to see Diaz try to grapple more. He took Conor down pretty easily off that single leg when he tried. Now that he's even bigger and in better shape and Conor is reportedly smaller it should be even easier.
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PuertoRican United States. Aug 13 2016 21:33. Posts 13048
I think Conor might employ a similar strategy that Josh Thomson used against Nate. I don't expect a heavy kicking game like Josh did, but Conor probably saw how Josh was able to avoid any major confrontation with Nate by constantly moving and not letting him plant his feet and set up his combos.
If Conor can keep sticking and moving around for 25 minutes, Nate will get frustrated and throw his hands up and talk shit, trying to bait Conor into a brawl. Nate will be forced to reach with those pawing hooks that he uses, which are basically slaps and are used to kind of hook your opponent and slow them down from escaping so you can cleanly attack them.
Remember, Nate is a stationary target for the most part, and relies on his leg reach and arm reach a lot in his fights, especially when he's fighting guys who are Conor's height or shorter.
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TianYuan Korea (South). Aug 14 2016 02:20. Posts 6817
On August 04 2016 06:56 traxamillion wrote:
Connor is 90% his left hand, doubt he comes out with some sick leg kicking game
The fuck are you talking about, sure his power shot is the left but he knows how to kick very well and both being southpaws it should open a lot of possibilities to kick for Conor from an angle Nate is simply not used to cover but he has to consciously employ a totally different strategy, which is the trait of a great fighter, lets see if he has the strategic discipline this demands.
Did you just post mostly leg teeps to prove him wrong? lol. I dunno about 90% but Conors game massively revolves around his left hand. He has some ok kicks, but for the most part they aren't extremely effective. Lots of flashy kicks that have a extremely low success rate, and some teeps that don't really do a whole lot besides gauge distance.
He did hit Mendes with a lot of body teeps which were nice, but Mendes is also 5'5'' and had zero preparation for the fight.
Obviously he should/will add more kicks this time, but he's not gonna become RDA/Thomson/Bendo in one training camp and be able to kick the shit out of Nate imo. Maybe though, that'd be very impressive.
I think people overestimate how easy the Diaz bros are to kick. See Cerrone vs Nate. They are constantly pressuring and throwing punches at your face, so to be able to kick them well you really have to be good at setting your kicks up and moving to avoid the pressure. Even most of the great kickers who exploited the Diaz brothers had to use grappling often to alleviate the pressure they bring which Conor can't do, not to mention theres always the chance Nate catches a body kick and takes Conor down which is very bad for him.
I posed those kicks to showcase how he is very coordinated with his kicks, sure his game revolves around the left so he doesnt focus on them, thats why im saying he has to adjust the way he fights, but he is absolutely capable of leg kicking nate, Muay Thai kicks to the thigh are pretty simple and Nate being also a southpaw has never had to defend from those and also its very hard to catch a kick when your stance is that sideways, Nate usually keeps a high lead right hand, so to catch those kicks he would need to drop his hand and stop checking kicks, sounds like an adjustment that would make things worse for him.
That being said I dont expect Connor to make Nate limp or tap to kicks its simply to slow the pace of the fight, to force Nate to throw first so that he can be more efficient and precise with his left while countering
I feel his stance is too wide for muay thai leg kicks. It'd make it extremely telegraphed and slow. I think we'll see karate style leg kicks which are way less damaging. I do agree they'll help score some points and set up his counters but it also leaves him open for counters. And I'm not sure he could keep that up for 5 rounds with Nick constantly pressuring him. Would help set up a ko though.
I agree with this but I feel a distinction should be made between kyokushin karate leg kicks (which are powerful as hell, just thrown in a different way) and whatever leg kicks are available from the more stereotypical wide legged karate stance.
Obviously you can't throw a kyokushin leg kick standing the way he does, either
Korea (South). Aug 14 2016 02:20. Posts 6817
