UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux

Date: Saturday, April 23rd
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:30 LP.net / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (PPV)

Jon Jones (21-1) vs. Ovince Saint Preux (19-7) (Light Heavyweight)
Demetrious Johnson (23-2-1) vs. Henry Cejudo (10-0) (Flyweight)
Anthony Pettis (18-4) vs. Edson Barboza (16-4) (Lightweight)
Robert Whittaker (15-4) vs. Rafael Natal (21-6-1) (Middleweight)
Yair Rodriguez (6-1) vs. Andre Fili (15-3) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Sergio Pettis (13-2) vs. Chris Kelades (9-2) (Flyweight)
Danny Roberts (12-1) vs. Dominique Steele (14-6) (Welterweight)
Carla Esparza (10-3) vs. Juliana Lima (8-2) (Women's Strawweight)
Glaico Franca (13-3) vs. James Vick (8-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Walt Harris (7-4) vs. Cody East (12-1) (Heavyweight)
Marcos Rogerio de Lima (13-3-1) vs. Clint Hester (11-5) (Light Heavyweight)
Efrain Escudero (24-10) vs. Kevin Lee (11-2) (Lightweight)

Other

- The event was expected to be headlined by a UFC Light Heavyweight Championship rematch between current champion Daniel Cormier and former champion Jon Jones. The pairing met previously at UFC 182 in January 2015 with Jones defending his title via unanimous decision. Subsequent to that victory, Jones was stripped of the title and suspended indefinitely from the UFC in connection with a hit-and-run incident that he was involved in. Cormier replaced him and went on to defeat Anthony Johnson at UFC 187 to win the vacant title.
- On March 29, Jones was arrested in Albuquerque, New Mexico on a charge of violating his probation related to his hit-and-run incident in 2015. The arrest took place five days after Jones was cited on multiple traffic charges, including drag racing, exhibition driving, weaving, failing to properly display his license plate and modifying his exhaust pipe. He agreed to plea deal and was released on March 31. In a statement, the UFC announced it was "disappointed" with Jones, but the bout will continue as planned. However, on April 1, it was announced that Cormier injured his foot and was out of the planned fight. He was replaced by Ovince Saint Preux in what will now be an interim title fight. Anthony Johnson was the original planned replacement, but due to a recent oral procedure, he wasn't able to accept the fight.
- A UFC Flyweight Championship bout between current champion Demetrious Johnson and 2008 Olympic gold medalist in freestyle wrestling Henry Cejudo is expected to co-headline the event.
- In January 2016, B.J. Penn announced his intentions to return to active competition in the featherweight division after an 18-month "retirement" and was expected to compete at this event. However, Penn's return was delayed after an investigation into recent criminal allegations made against him was launched. After he was exonerated, the UFC announced that he would face Dennis Siver at UFC 199.
- Former WSOF Women's Strawweight Champion Jessica Aguilar was expected to face Juliana Lima at the event, but pulled out on March 18 due to a knee injury. She was replaced by former UFC Women's Strawweight Champion Carla Esparza.

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First impression of the match-ups:

• Jones > OSP
• Johnson > Cejudo
• Barboza > Pettis
• Whittaker > Natal
• Fili > Rodriguez
• Kelades > Pettis
• Roberts > Steele
• Lima > Esparza
• Vick > Franca
• East > Harris
• Lima > Hester
• Lee > Escudero

Pettis brothers always fight @ same night or what ? :D
Why Barboza > Pettis though ? They seem to have similar styles, but Pettis should be the more skilled one

I'm gonna be on cejudo,

Also thinking about taking Barbosa over pettis

Yeah also barboza over pettis but I'll watch the weigh ins first, and it think Rodriguez > Fili

On April 17 2016 22:50 Spitfiree wrote: Pettis brothers always fight @ same night or what ? :D Why Barboza > Pettis though ? They seem to have similar styles, but Pettis should be the more skilled one

Pettis and Barboza are both outside fighters because they are kickers. While Barboza isn't known for his boxing, he's faster and throws much harder punches than Pettis, and also kicks harder.

Barboza has good TDD, and since he's facing a "tall" fighter who isn't a wrestler, Pettis won't have much of a chance to use his superior BJJ skills.

Also, Barboza throws way more strikes than Pettis, which is pretty obvious just by watching their fights.

I predict a decision win for Barboza.

On April 17 2016 23:31 jvilla777 wrote: Yeah also barboza over pettis but I'll watch the weigh ins first, and it think Rodriguez > Fili

You won't learn anything from the weigh-ins when it comes to Barboza and Anthony Pettis. Both always look great. I don't remember a time they looked anything close to "bad."

Regarding Rodriguez vs. Fili, I see it similar to Pettis vs. Barboza. Rodriguez is a flashy fighter who isn't a volume striker, while Fili is a volume striker with superior hands and power and also has decent wrestling (better than Rodriguez), while Rodriguez has the BJJ advantage off his back. Decision win for Fili, imo.

I'm okay with taking OSP here, I think...

Jon Jones might come out on some super beast level, but perhaps OSP is a bigger beast /shrug.

I don't think Cejudo can beat Demetrius Johnson.

Once you watch the first few minutes of the main event you are going to remember what the #1 P4P looks like.

I assume OSP is drawing really thin here but I'll be pulling for him hard

He trains out of the town I went to college in (Knoxville, TN). He also played football for the University of Tennessee (where I went). When I was a student, I went with 3 other buddies to an XFC event (some small MMA organization) and he was apart of the main event when he was first starting his career. We got to see him knock his opponent out with a head kick in the 1st round sitting ringside for like $25/piece

Also Jon Jones is a douche. GO OSP

Found a video of it. Pretty epic knockout

His tdd wasnt as good back then bit solid head kick on the midget tho. Sick video to find. Were they similar in weight?

Ovince needs to hit a runner runner but maybe the stars will align just like it did in holm vs rousey. Everyone is overlooking OSP as they should (myself included), but i love controversy. IDK what it is but i get a thrill out of watching champs get beat with exception of MCG even though diaz is my guy who lives like an hour away. But as long as the fights are exciting ill be happy.

Holm had everything necessary needed to win plus a bunch of guys predicted it. OSP would be a much bigger upset. Its a dumb main event, but nothing they could do about it I guess, I doubt they would put JBJ in a position to fight Gustafson on a short notice and I doubt he d agree either. Would be the only available great fight @ LHW

On April 17 2016 23:41 PuertoRican wrote: Pettis and Barboza are both outside fighters because they are kickers. While Barboza isn't known for his boxing, he's faster and throws much harder punches than Pettis, and also kicks harder. Barboza has good TDD, and since he's facing a "tall" fighter who isn't a wrestler, Pettis won't have much of a chance to use his superior BJJ skills. Also, Barboza throws way more strikes than Pettis, which is pretty obvious just by watching their fights. I predict a decision win for Barboza.

All of that is true but Pettis beats all fighters who give him space and time, he has only lost to pressure fighters and Barboza doesnt pressure I think Barboza is going to get countered and picked apart, I think Pettis wins this unless Barboza hurts him early with leg kicks.

On April 18 2016 23:56 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On April 17 2016 23:41 PuertoRican wrote: Pettis and Barboza are both outside fighters because they are kickers. While Barboza isn't known for his boxing, he's faster and throws much harder punches than Pettis, and also kicks harder. Barboza has good TDD, and since he's facing a "tall" fighter who isn't a wrestler, Pettis won't have much of a chance to use his superior BJJ skills. Also, Barboza throws way more strikes than Pettis, which is pretty obvious just by watching their fights. I predict a decision win for Barboza. All of that is true but Pettis beats all fighters who give him space and time, he has only lost to pressure fighters and Barboza doesnt pressure I think Barboza is going to get countered and picked apart, I think Pettis wins this unless Barboza hurts him early with leg kicks.

I'd rather see Pettis win, but I'm not letting my love for him as a fighter and as a fellow Puerto Rican cloud my judgment.

I know the styles of Pettis and Barboza really well, which is why I'm sticking to my original thought on the fight.

In a perfect world, we'll see a nice striking battle with Pettis winning via Matrix kick off the cage.

On April 18 2016 19:54 flounder44 wrote: Ovince needs to hit a runner runner but maybe the stars will align just like it did in holm vs rousey. Everyone is overlooking OSP as they should (myself included), but i love controversy. IDK what it is but i get a thrill out of watching champs get beat with exception of MCG even though diaz is my guy who lives like an hour away. But as long as the fights are exciting ill be happy.

Holm winning wasn't luck.
A lot of people predicted it happening. Her fightning style was perfect to beat Ronda.
She totally dominated ronda for the whole fight. It had nothing to do with luck.

OSP on the other hand needs a lucky KO or hes not winning for sure.

Jones > OSP - Once OSP is on his back he's completely fucked.

Johnson > Cejudo - Interested more than most people only because DJ's game is largely predicated off of his constant level changes so its possible Cejudo nullify's that and it becomes closer.... but I doubt it because unless Cejudo improved massively, DJ is just better everywhere and has a massive cardio advantage. Still, for the first time in forever for a DJ fight I feel like the odds are correct.

Pettis > Barboza - What can I say, the guy burned me super hard before but this is a tailor made matchup for him. A distance striker with a non-granite chin who doesn't push the pace. Barboza is live but I think he gets starched. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Pettis submits him, his offensive wrestling is far better than his defensive wrestling, he took down Jeremy Stevens a few times but more-so he'll probably just rock him and finish it with a sub.

Whittaker > Natal - Please God let Whittaker land early and murk this scrub.

Rodriguez > Fili - Close, fun fight. Fili looked much improved in his last fight vs Benitez but I just think he's a bit less dangerous than Middle-Pettis and far more hittable. Fili is the better wrestler and throws more volume though, but Yair is also really amazing in the scrambles and creating them with his guard, where Fili is over-aggressive and not that heavy on top (atleast in his fight vs Arantes)

Pettis > Kalades - Another tailor made matchup for a Pettis bro. His biggest weakness is his chin (unlike Anthony who I've never seen rocked even vs RDA) but Kalades doesn't hit hard. Should be some great scrambles but at range it should be a wipe-out.

Roberts > Steele - Roberts is really good and dangerous, Steele isn't.

Esparza > Lima - Wrestle-fuck to submission

Vick > Franca - Submission

East > Harris - East looks like he could actually be a legit prospect. His striking and movement for a HW look awesome. Want to see him vs good competition, but this is a good start to get his feet wet.

Hester vs Lima - Pickem, whoever lands big first, I'm leaning Hester though, better gas tank and technique (only because Lima is just a massive hitter with neither) - The under 1.5 should be -200ish

Lee > Escuedero - Should be a fun but 1-sided fight

Osp would need like a 2 outer to beat jones,

I can also see barboza winning based on aggression having similar styles with pettis.

Just watched his fight again vs felder, that was fn sick

Yeah Barboza is live for sure he is very violent and can easily rock Pettis with a flurry but I dont see that many technical or strategical ways for him to win, Pettis is quicker and more precise, I think he should be able to throw kicks when he sees openings and to control the distance while creating set ups while Barboza can only try to time Pettis coming in with them or against a stationary Pettis which is rare unless he is gassing but Barboza isnt a cardio monster so that probably wont happen.

OSP is simply drawing dead unless Jones returns like shit which I dont think will happen since he is very young, OSP has decent power but Jones is so difficult to KO because its difficult to generate strong collilsions against him, he rarely trades, he is quick to pull out and has huge reach so most punches that land are almost over extensions on an already retreating Jones with his fingers gouging your eyes out, so many KO artist have failed to even hurt him and OSP doesnt have anything new to offer striking wise, and all of this is only relevant if Jones simply doesnt take him down quick and maul him from the top.

-Reach Numbers-

East 77" - Harris 77"
Lee 77" - Escudero 70"
Roberts 74" - Steele 74"
Vick 76" - Franca 77"
S. Pettis 69" - Kelades 68"
Fili 74" - Rodriguez 71"
De Lima 75" - Hester 77"
Esparza 63" - Lima 65 1/2"
Natal 76" - Whitaker 73 1/2"
A. Pettis 72 1/2" - Barboza 75"
Johnson 66" - Cejudo 64"
OSP 80" - Jones 84 1/2"

On April 19 2016 07:30 Baalim wrote: Yeah Barboza is live for sure he is very violent and can easily rock Pettis with a flurry but I dont see that many technical or strategical ways for him to win, Pettis is quicker and more precise, I think he should be able to throw kicks when he sees openings and to control the distance while creating set ups while Barboza can only try to time Pettis coming in with them or against a stationary Pettis which is rare unless he is gassing but Barboza isnt a cardio monster so that probably wont happen. OSP is simply drawing dead unless Jones returns like shit which I dont think will happen since he is very young, OSP has decent power but Jones is so difficult to KO because its difficult to generate strong collilsions against him, he rarely trades, he is quick to pull out and has huge reach so most punches that land are almost over extensions on an already retreating Jones with his fingers gouging your eyes out, so many KO artist have failed to even hurt him and OSP doesnt have anything new to offer striking wise, and all of this is only relevant if Jones simply doesnt take him down quick and maul him from the top.

+1 on all counts

I've changed my mind on OSP. Due to all the commentary, there was a muddieness in my mind as to what Jon Jones will return like, but really I doubt he will be much different than ever before after only 1 year off. His technique and mindset are too good to give OSP much of a chance. Jones > OSP.

I've also changed my mind on Pettis vs Barboza. I'm on the Pettis train. Barboza has a weaker chin, he might have more raw power, but Pettis knows how to deal with it. Barboza is also pretty dumb, like a horse. Pettis should be able to set him up off timing and read him a bit better. Pettis > Barboza

Pettis will prob win but I still like Barboza at +170 or better if it gets there. (Admittedly I already too small action at +150)

Barbosa got rocked with a hard shot from Felder and was fine. I don't think his chin is that bad. Just can't be that impressed with pettis after losing to Alvarez. That was garbage just showed no heart

My only bet: Jones+Demetrious+Pettis+Yair. 30 bucks to win 116

I made that same parlay as a hedge

On April 20 2016 14:55 traxamillion wrote: Barbosa got rocked with a hard shot from Felder and was fine. I don't think his chin is that bad. Just can't be that impressed with pettis after losing to Alvarez. That was garbage just showed no heart

Has to be a mistake comparing what Alvarez did compared to how barboza almost always fights to judge how Pettis will do here. Also, still generally sucking at defensive wrestling doesn't equate to no heart. Heart isn't something anyone would say is a strong point of Pettis but he definitely has at least some. If he didn't, he would've found a way to get out in the RDA fight instead of gettin the shit kicked out of him for the full 25 min.

No details or all too much confidence but I'm gonna be on Pettis. For a pretty small amount. Was also one of the ones who lost a chunk on him vs Eddie

On April 20 2016 18:14 alejandicto wrote: My only bet: Jones+Demetrious+Pettis+Yair. 30 bucks to win 116

I expect either Pettis or Yair to lose their fight, if not both. Considering the match-up for both, it's risky adding both guys to the same parlay.

Did you add all these guys in the same parlay cuz you're familiar with them, or because you think it's the most solid 4-team parlay on the card? IMO, there are "safer" fighters on this card to add to a 4-team parlay, not that I recommend a 4-team parlay.

On April 20 2016 21:11 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On April 20 2016 18:14 alejandicto wrote: My only bet: Jones+Demetrious+Pettis+Yair. 30 bucks to win 116 I expect either Pettis or Yair to lose their fight, if not both. Considering the match-up for both, it's risky adding both guys to the same parlay. Did you add all these guys in the same parlay cuz you're familiar with them, or because you think it's the most solid 4-team parlay on the card? IMO, there are "safer" fighters on this card to add to a 4-team parlay, not that I recommend a 4-team parlay.

I originally thought on a 3 man parlay Jones+Demetrious+Pettis (I think Pettis wins by KO or submission, he is still the best or maybe the second best striker in the division IMO, Barboza will give him the space he needs and he has not a good chin)

I add Yair to my parlay later, I wasnt sure about this at the beginning but I really see him as a future contender and I think he beats fili by decision here.

Nah def not sayijng Barboza has a terrible chin, he took hard shots vs Michael Johnson and a couple vs Felder but it's not fantastic. The Cerrone and Varner finishes showed that it's not iron. Pettis is just much better at not getting hit clean and even when he has he seems pretty immune to getting wobbled. RDA broke his face and couldn't actually come close to KOing him, he's just very careful about not colliding with punches.

As McGregor famously put it, power vs precision matchup. Pettis being much more precise and better with space and range, Barboza probably kicks harder (neither hit all that hard) but winds up his kicks and labors his punches.

Oh yea I have Whittaker not yair in my parlay. Oops

OSP is doomed here. Gimmick fight for Bones. He is going to smash him and look spectacular doing so. I am considering JJ R1/R2.

Have a big bet for Mighty Mouse at -220, but thinking about hedging that a little. I think Cejudo wrestling is so good he can neutralize some of MM best weapons and make it somehow closer fight.

Also I am fairly big on Anthony Pettis. I was betting against him on all of his last 3 fights, but here I think Barboza is perfect match up for him to shine.

OSP s possibly the weakest opponent he will face in a title defense match

On April 22 2016 09:46 northsails wrote: Have a big bet for Mighty Mouse at -220, but thinking about hedging that a little. I think Cejudo wrestling is so good he can neutralize some of MM best weapons and make it somehow closer fight.

Did you see Henry Cejudo vs. Chico Camus? Camus stuffed all of Cejudo's take down attempts except for 1 in Round 3, iirc. Camus isn't a wrestler.

Cejudo's wrestling hasn't translated to MMA that great, especially in the UFC. He's facing guys who are small and fast, so it's hard for him to do his thing. Now, Cejudo is finally facing a top flyweight, and it happens to be the best flyweight in the world who is faster, has better BJJ, better striking, better MMA wrestling, he doesn't have to cut much weight (10 pounds), and he can fight at 100% for 25 minutes in a row.

I don't think Cejudo will get finished, but I don't see him winning, either. At best, Cejudo's movement, striking, and wrestling will be able to slow down the action (which is good when facing Mighty Mouse), but he has no offensive tools to hurt Mighty Mouse (unless he recently changed/upgraded his style).

On April 22 2016 09:46 northsails wrote: OSP is doomed here. Gimmick fight for Bones. He is going to smash him and look spectacular doing so. I am considering JJ R1/R2. Have a big bet for Mighty Mouse at -220, but thinking about hedging that a little. I think Cejudo wrestling is so good he can neutralize some of MM best weapons and make it somehow closer fight. Also I am fairly big on Anthony Pettis. I was betting against him on all of his last 3 fights, but here I think Barboza is perfect match up for him to shine.

Show me where I can get MM at -220 and I'll bet the house. I'm assuming typo though

The line opened like this at betsafe/betsson. I posted it here btw, I am pretty sure.

They opened a lot of crazy lines, also. Tumenov/ Nelson was pickem, Corey Anderson was like -115 vs Shogun. Struve was a + 175 dog vs Bigfoot. Urijah Hall at +250 vs Silva and many more.

My point is it is a gold mine there, when they open the lines before 5dimes. If you can use this option definitely load some cash there. A lot of free money.

@PuertoRican I agree with you, but my reasoning for hedging a little is because now the price is pretty cool and I have a lot of money on Mighty Mouse. If Cejudo somehow pulls it off, I'll take a pretty big hit.

It opened at -405 and hasn't gone below -400 according to bestfightodds.com

Frankly, I don't believe it was ever anywhere near -220.... but if you aren't mistaken and/or lying... props, great bet.

-220 is insane that book would get wrecked

Matt Hume wasn't in the embedded's or with DJ at walkout. Wonder what's up with that. Did he not do this training camp with him? You know Rican?

OSP can hit a gutshot here. He's just as big as Jones which is something he has trouble dealing with. Jones wins by default though, but it will not be easy at all.

On April 23 2016 01:17 soberstone wrote: Matt Hume wasn't in the embedded's or with DJ at walkout. Wonder what's up with that. Did he not do this training camp with him? You know Rican?

Unless they separated within the past 2 weeks, MM and Hume are still together.

I know Hume recently did an interview with Frank Trigg where he discussed the fight, but I didn't have time to watch it.

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Matt Hume is in the latest episode of Embedded.

On April 22 2016 22:32 soberstone wrote: It opened at -405 and hasn't gone below -400 according to bestfightodds.com Frankly, I don't believe it was ever anywhere near -220.... but if you aren't mistaken and/or lying... props, great bet.

bestfightodds.com does not track betsafe and eurobookies sometimes open lines before 5dimes/other major american bookies.

Frankly, I find it ridiculous, that anybody can think that I am inventing this line, so I can look cool on a internet forum, lol.

See last few posts here: click

On April 23 2016 09:26 northsails wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 22:32 soberstone wrote: It opened at -405 and hasn't gone below -400 according to bestfightodds.com Frankly, I don't believe it was ever anywhere near -220.... but if you aren't mistaken and/or lying... props, great bet. bestfightodds.com does not track betsafe and eurobookies sometimes open lines before 5dimes/other major american bookies. Frankly, I find it ridiculous, that anybody can think that I am inventing this line, so I can look cool on a internet forum, lol. See last few posts here: click

People do weird shit on the web, sorry pal. Just odd that you found a line 200 points different than any book tracked on bestfightodds. I believe you, just a rarity.

Thanks Rican, guess Matt Hume was just taking a shit during the weigh-in and episode I watched.

European bookies always have crazy lines. They're known for having props that offer a ton of value when first released.

5dimes often releases their lines after people have bet on the Euro books. Probably to get a better idea of where the line should be at.

wrong thread wtf.

I wish fights started earlier.

Jones obv gonna kill OSP.

Honestly I've only watched Cejudo fight once so I really got no idea but ill go with the consensus MM via being almost perfect.

Pettis vs Barboza is the real interesting fight here. Supper pumped for this, one of my most anticipated booked fights. I kinda agree with Puerto that Barboza has a bit of an advantage in the fact that he throws a lot more strikes, so like I said before if this goes to decision Pettis will lose as he basically never wins decisions due to his low striking output. But I feel Barboza struggles with being hit too much and loses composure and eventually Pettis will land something good and tko or sub him.

Wonder if Barboza's leg kicks will come into play. Considering Pettis has that karate stance that is often vulnerable to them. I know RDA hit him with some goods ones, though it didn't seem to effect him all that much.

1. Rogerio, East, Fili, Roberts, Whittaker ($27 team)
2. Rogerio, East, Fili, Roberts, Whittaker ($5 team)
3. Rogerio, Fili, Harris, Roberts, Whittaker ($5 team)
4. Rogerio, East, Fili, Pettis, Whittaker ($5 team)
5. Rogerio, East, Fili, Johnson, Roberts ($5 team)
6. Barboza, Rogerio, Fili, Jones, Whittaker ($5)
7. Barboza, East, Fili, Jones, Whittaker ($5 team)
8. Cejudo, Rogerio, East, Jones, Roberts ($5 team)
9. Fili, Franca, Jones, Roberts, Whittaker ($5 team)

Pezao for the win~

Line on yair plummeted

Nice ez win for vick

Esparza looks like a teenager

Hoping Juliana Lima wins, but she isn't using her boxing enough. She's putting herself in positions to get taken down.

Esparza isn't doing shit on top, but she's still winning, technically.

Joanna could 1v2 these two no camp.

Yea esparza Will win this decision prob 30-27

Gets that single leg so easily

Always good to have the money on the right side of a wrestlefuck

Could somebody please start a fight organization that goes until one of the fighters actually loses, not on rounds. This 3 round non-sense ruins everything. Go until one taps, quits or ko.

Enjoy your event planning

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On April 24 2016 01:01 Minsk wrote: Could somebody please start a fight organization that goes until one of the fighters actually loses, not on rounds. This 3 round non-sense ruins everything. Go until one taps, quits or ko.

Terrible idea.

Can you imagine how long that last fight would've lasted?

There'd be 10+ round borefests all over the place. Shit would be excruciating.

And the more tired they got, the boringer it'd get.

I was gonna bet on this next fight bit didn't want to bet on females and wasn't sure about that name Dominique. Thought it might have been another bitch fight. Too lazy to Google was just gonna bet the favorite

"Hey Fox sports this next event will take something between 1 and 20 hours..."

No, it would be epic, and very few fights would go 10 rounds. The more tired they get the more likely the one with more energy is to score a KO. That fight would have gone around 30 minutes.

Perhaps don't stream it over fox. Use other media sources. I'm sure there is an alternate market for it.

Steele coming out hot

On April 24 2016 01:06 Minsk wrote: No, it would be epic, and very few fights would go 10 rounds. The more tired they get the more likely the one with more energy is to score a KO. That fight would have gone around 30 minutes.

Carla Esparza wrestlefucking for thirty minutes...

*shudder*

I'm glad you're not runnin' things.

I had it for Roberts via split-decision.

Steele was aggressive in R3, but he was just holding and stalling most of the time, while Roberts remained as active as possible with his strikes.

If Roberts didn't strike while Steele was holding him, Steele would've won, imo. Kind of like, who wanted it more?

Nice ez win for sergio. Vick pettis parlay good. Did Roberts get the decision over Steele then?

Rodriguez / Whittaker / Barboza / Johnson / Jones

Is it against the rules to pull hard as fuck on that dudes tunnel holes in order to submit him?

On April 24 2016 02:08 Sliggy wrote: Rodriguez / Whittaker / Barboza / Johnson / Jones

my picks as well, good luck

YAIR IS A MOTHERFUCKER SHIT

Holy crap dude.

McGregor vs. Rodriguez would be disgusting.

On April 24 2016 02:30 Sliggy wrote: Holy crap dude. McGregor vs. Rodriguez would be disgusting.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here

Was getting worried when yair dropped from -160 to evenS. Had most of my action on him straight and in 3-4 parlays. Came through shining tho, like a video game

Yair had an easy win, considering Fili looked the worst he ever has.

No idea what Fili's game plan was. He was wild and didn't use his best tools, which would've made things difficult for Yair.

Dont know what rogan and goldie are saying to me it looked like 30-27 whittaker... maybe im biased

Yeah, ill be very surprised if Whittaker doesn't get this win

War rodriguez


I've won all my bets so far besides Lima



Legoooooo Barbozaaaaa!

3-0 for Whittaker, but he needs to check leg kicks in the future. Natal made it closer than the scores suggest.

Yeah his leg was lookin' nasty.

Edson

Round 1: Barboza, but it was close.
Round 2: Barboza, more clear than Round 1.
Round 3: Barboza, clearly.

Barboza 3-0, imo.

auauau, they both looked so slick and bad ass, insane technique, everything looked crisp

Ship it barbosa, hit everything so far this card. Can I be right on cejudo too?

On April 24 2016 03:42 traxamillion wrote: Ship it barbosa, hit everything so far this card. Can I be right on cejudo too?

No.

Damn... what a killer!

BOOOOM.

btw FU Pettis

lmao @ Cejudo.

eZ pZ...

Well, that wasn't very close was it

Nope.didnt expect to hit that had a small straight bet on cejudo but MM in all the parlays

Good luck beating Mighty Mouse. Fucking sick.

I like cejudo's hair.. Too bad it did not help him..

Do you guys think Mighty Mouse would get more popular, better payed and more famous if he moved up a weight class? Like he could take on Faber after Faber loses to Cruz, then take on that weird Brazillian guy, then take on Cruz again. I think people might love that! And if he wins vs Cruz, he can move up another weight class, then it will really look like Mighty Mouse, being all small and tiny, fighting vs a giant (even if it's just featherweight)

Yes prob, Noone cares about feather

Jon not really impressive in his return.

Gustafsson fucks him up, imo.

I think Jones got very lucky DC got injured, he would of lost to DC tonight.

Yep. If that had been DC, he was dead.

Not really that impressive but i mean 50-45 is 50-45

Sigh...

I felt really confident about this card, but I should've known... I literally never do well on any UFC PPV card when it comes to DraftKings.

I invested $67, won $33.50, so my total loss for the day is -$33.50, not counting the time I wasted watching the fights when I should've been doing homework for several classes.

p.s. the next UFC card is already up on DraftKings, but it offers a low payout, and imo, it's a tough card to make a solid team. ATM, I'm not excited about it in terms of fantasy betting, but there's several good fights on the card that I'm interested in watching.

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p.s.s. The next card is in 2 weeks (Sunday, May 8), so this should give you plenty of time to study fights. Here's the card:

Alistair Overeem vs. Andrei Arlovski
Antonio Silva vs. Stefan Struve
Gunnar Nelson vs. Albert Tumenov
Nikita Krylov vs. Francimar Barroso
Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Heather Jo Clark
Rustam Khabilov vs. Chris Wade
Patrick Holohan vs. Willie Gates
Germaine de Randamie vs. Anna Elmose
Magnus Cedenblad vs. Garreth McLellan
Nick Hein vs. Jon Tuck
Yan Cabral vs. Reza Madadi
Kyoji Horiguchi vs. Neil Seery
Leon Edwards vs. Dominic Waters

Missed the main card, saw Yair's KO though. Never seen a switch kick KO don't think. Kid's the new Pettis since Pettis is apparently the old Pettis.

If Sergio had a better chin he'd actually be an interesting matchup for MM. I also really like Scoggins. Still a lot of FW contenders coming up, division is actually getting deep.

Haha jones, tried his fake humble shit for years before repeatedly getting exposed for the standard lowlife coke loving nig he is.

DJ looks incredible. They should just disband his division and put him in the Hall Of Fame as a god of it. That guy wont lose for many years to come. What he did to an olympic wrestler is mind blowing. It looked like he was dealing with a kid.

Jones looked like he was walking in the park or something until OSP hit him a few times 2nd round and actually decided to start fighting. If he fights at this level the fight vs DC will actually be interesting. I've never seen him so stiff

thought jones looked fine. fight was very similar to rampage fight where he mesmerized opponent into doing nothing by throwing endless kicks and refused to throw any punches because that would allow a (somewhat) dangerous opponent with power into striking range, basically coasted to an easy 50-45 win. a fight with DC goes very different since DC would bully his way into jon's chest repeatedly and force the action, so cannot read into anything about that fight from this performance. but Gus countered this gameplan well and jon would have to choose to fight very differently against specifically him.

I suppose I'm most interested to see him fight Anthony Johnson due to them not yet fighting, but I think Jones matches up very well with him. Jones fights safe, has a great chin, better cardio, and seems to give the wrestle boxers no chance of victory. I do really want to see Gus/DC rematches though. All 3 fights need to happen, don't have any interest in him moving up to fight Werdum atm

Jon Jones will beat DC again, imo. Hope that fight makes the odds somehow closer for their fight. The line before DC injury was unplayable.

Very interested to see him vs Rumble, as well. The toughest match up for him, imo is still Gustafsson, who I pick to beat him up most of the time.

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I feel theres a couple things that made Jon look bad. One was his inability to take OSP down early. OSP isn't known to have very good TDD, Bader took him down 9 times and Glover 5. So him being able to avoid Jones takedowns really surprised people.

Another was his defense and output. Fightmetric says the first two rounds were basically dead even ( off by one strike both rounds ) and OSP was able to land some very good punches. I felt Jon looked kinda slow and unsure of himself early in the fight.

Theres also the fact OSP broke his arm in the 4th I believe and Jones couldn't finish him.

I don't think Jones looked terrible, but I do think if he fought DC/Rumble/Gus tonight theres a good chance he would of lost. Seemed like his timing was off and he was unsure of himself. Think he comes out beast mode next fight though.

Rumble gonna blast Jones if they ever fight

Just watched the Jones fight. Just looked tentative and conservative to me. It was boring but I don't really think it should affect the odds on future fights. He's always had terrible, stiff boxing, get by on his athletic advantages, and only takes the finish when it presents itself except his murder of Shogun. Rumble has the best shot, agree with Trax, although I would favor Jones.

What are the 4 axis in fighting? 2 are definitely Speed and Power, what are the other 2? to make an X/Y chart.

Mental Toughness, Precision, Wrestling/Grapping, Conditioning, Tricky/Timing all come to mind..