On March 01 2016 06:53 jvilla777 wrote:
The recent mcgregor fights he fought people that are shorter ended in a KO, he fought holloway who is taller and went to decision.
Yeah and blah blah with injuries that's why he couldn't score a KO.
I feel the juiciest bet here is the fight going o1.5 rounds.
Just a thought.
its o2.5 rounds for +165
And i personally wouldn't bet on that.
Holloway did last 3 rounds, but against a much smaller conor, with 2 years less experience. I believe saturday's conor will be a lot more dangerous.
I also think Nate's style is more likely to end up in a finish. Holloway is more well rounded and has a great all around defense. Diaz has more Holes, but is more dangerous.
That being said, im not sure about betting conor at -420. I think Diaz's standup is actually pretty good, and fight being at 170 gives him an edge. Sure he's on "short notice", but he clearly looks like he has not stopped training. I definetly wouldn't bet on him tho.
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jvilla777 Australia. Mar 01 2016 20:25. Posts 1348
On March 01 2016 06:53 jvilla777 wrote:
The recent mcgregor fights he fought people that are shorter ended in a KO, he fought holloway who is taller and went to decision.
Yeah and blah blah with injuries that's why he couldn't score a KO.
I feel the juiciest bet here is the fight going o1.5 rounds.
Just a thought.
its o2.5 rounds for +165
And i personally wouldn't bet on that.
Holloway did last 3 rounds, but against a much smaller conor, with 2 years less experience. I believe saturday's conor will be a lot more dangerous.
I also think Nate's style is more likely to end up in a finish. Holloway is more well rounded and has a great all around defense. Diaz has more Holes, but is more dangerous.
That being said, im not sure about betting conor at -420. I think Diaz's standup is actually pretty good, and fight being at 170 gives him an edge. Sure he's on "short notice", but he clearly looks like he has not stopped training. I definetly wouldn't bet on him tho.
You can bet o1.5 rounds for 1.90, the conversion is -111 on bet365.com
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
Nate is pretty fucking live here, as Stim said, the Diaz brothers have a huge specific weakness, leg kicks and I havent seen Connor go big on those, maybe he will though, he is an amazing kicker and a smart fighter but if he decides to stand and box with Nate he is going to get hit
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
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PuertoRican United States. Mar 02 2016 07:12. Posts 13051
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
Im always surprised with fighters stupidity, or athletes in general... or pretty much anybody. Anyway I think its so common for fighters to lose perspective and forget why they are good, the known "Tyson Syndrome" very evidently seen in fighters like Roy Nelson who was a very good grappler and every fight he becomes a worse fighter more obsessed about his right hand, if Miesha is serious and goes in there trying to knock Holly out her chances of winning are slim
On March 02 2016 04:03 Baalim wrote: Nate is pretty fucking live here, as Stim said, the Diaz brothers have a huge specific weakness, leg kicks and I havent seen Connor go big on those, maybe he will though, he is an amazing kicker and a smart fighter but if he decides to stand and box with Nate he is going to get hit
not sure about that. mcgregor is on a whole new level right now.
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iakim322 United States. Mar 02 2016 17:29. Posts 1335
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
Im always surprised with fighters stupidity, or athletes in general... or pretty much anybody. Anyway I think its so common for fighters to lose perspective and forget why they are good, the known "Tyson Syndrome" very evidently seen in fighters like Roy Nelson who was a very good grappler and every fight he becomes a worse fighter more obsessed about his right hand, if Miesha is serious and goes in there trying to knock Holly out her chances of winning are slim
Wouldn't completely generalize it like that but yea mostly agree. There are fighters though that do evolve rapidly behind the scenes and bust out surprising new strategies or massive improvements in already learned skills in fights. And only they and their coaches know it until fight time. But usually applies to young, great fighters on the uptick (Jon Jones several years back) or an athlete from another discipline like kickboxing having come over to MMA. Not like a Tate who's been in this game for a very long time. Shoulda been a long time enough time for her to know that you should find other paths to victory besides being stubborn about your 'power' against a boxing champion who's been striking since she was 14. A champion who just completely murked a superior athlete to Miesha in Ronda...who was basically charging in, loading up on power shots.
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iakim322 United States. Mar 02 2016 18:48. Posts 1335
Hope I'm very wrong. Like Holm but Miesha is long overdue for some shine.
2007...trying to make it as a wrestler turned MMA fighter when MMA itself was still relatively in it's infancy stage much less women's MMA. Head kicked brutally before Ronda ever knew what a head kick was back when there was literally 0 money to be had in women's MMA and she just kept chugging right along. Her refusal to tap in the first Ronda fight as Ronda was literally snapping her arm was a little mindblowing for me remembering when I watched it live. And she took that loss like a champ
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Stim_Abuser United States. Mar 02 2016 23:03. Posts 7499
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
Im always surprised with fighters stupidity, or athletes in general... or pretty much anybody. Anyway I think its so common for fighters to lose perspective and forget why they are good, the known "Tyson Syndrome" very evidently seen in fighters like Roy Nelson who was a very good grappler and every fight he becomes a worse fighter more obsessed about his right hand, if Miesha is serious and goes in there trying to knock Holly out her chances of winning are slim
To be fair Roy is a pretty awful wrestler. Looking at his record, there isn't a single guy he lost to that he would of been able to take down. And I think he realizes that.
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PuertoRican United States. Mar 03 2016 02:54. Posts 13051
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
Im always surprised with fighters stupidity, or athletes in general... or pretty much anybody. Anyway I think its so common for fighters to lose perspective and forget why they are good, the known "Tyson Syndrome" very evidently seen in fighters like Roy Nelson who was a very good grappler and every fight he becomes a worse fighter more obsessed about his right hand, if Miesha is serious and goes in there trying to knock Holly out her chances of winning are slim
To be fair Roy is a pretty awful wrestler. Looking at his record, there isn't a single guy he lost to that he would of been able to take down. And I think he realizes that.
But the threat of a takedown makes them much more easier to hit, also very often strikers have a very high success rate with takedowns because people are not expecting them and only take the best spots for them with exposed planes etc.
Roy Nelson sucks simply because everyone knows that all you have to do to beat him is avoid the right haymaker.
Not the full interview. Forget where I heard it while on road. But listening to Miesha, stuff like 'I find it amusing people think Holly just automatically wins the standup. I definitely think...know I can win there.' 'Everybody should be worried about my right hand.' Something to be said about self confidence but to me, seems like she fell in love with her power a bit much because of how it's changed her recent fights. Can't imagine it's good for Tate backers. Holly's not going to sit in the pocket like Jessica Eye did. And loading up power shots on a skilled, mobile fighter like Holly seems like a fast way to get tired from missing so much while receiving a flurry to the face every time you miss. Then her wrestling/clinch advantage will be less of an advantage
Im always surprised with fighters stupidity, or athletes in general... or pretty much anybody. Anyway I think its so common for fighters to lose perspective and forget why they are good, the known "Tyson Syndrome" very evidently seen in fighters like Roy Nelson who was a very good grappler and every fight he becomes a worse fighter more obsessed about his right hand, if Miesha is serious and goes in there trying to knock Holly out her chances of winning are slim
Wouldn't completely generalize it like that but yea mostly agree. There are fighters though that do evolve rapidly behind the scenes and bust out surprising new strategies or massive improvements in already learned skills in fights. And only they and their coaches know it until fight time. But usually applies to young, great fighters on the uptick (Jon Jones several years back) or an athlete from another discipline like kickboxing having come over to MMA. Not like a Tate who's been in this game for a very long time. Shoulda been a long time enough time for her to know that you should find other paths to victory besides being stubborn about your 'power' against a boxing champion who's been striking since she was 14. A champion who just completely murked a superior athlete to Miesha in Ronda...who was basically charging in, loading up on power shots.
Well yeah of course its a generalization, there are some brilliant strikers like Cruz but its a small minority
