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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 04 2016 05:40. Posts 13047

Date: Saturday, February 6th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 1:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Johny Hendricks (17-3) vs. Stephen Thompson (11-1) (Welterweight)
Roy Nelson (20-12) vs. Jared Rosholt (14-2) (Heavyweight)
Ovince Saint Preux (18-7) vs. Rafael Cavalcante (12-6) (Light Heavyweight)
Joseph Benavidez (27-12) vs. Zach Makovsky (19-6) (Flyweight)
Misha Cirkunov (10-2) vs. Alex Nicholson (6-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Mike Pyle (26-11-1) vs. Sean Spencer (12-4) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Josh Burkman (27-12) vs. K.J. Noons (13-8) (Lightweight)
Derrick Lewis (13-4) vs. Damian Grabowski (20-2) (Heavyweight)
Ray Borg (9-1) vs. Justin Scoggins (10-2) (Flyweight)
Noad Lahat (9-1) vs. Diego Rivas (6-0) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Mickey Gall (1-0) vs. Mike Jackson (0-0) (Welterweight)
Artem Lobov (11-11-1) vs. Alex White (10-2) (Featherweight)

Other

- The event was originally billed as UFC 196 and was scheduled to be headlined by a UFC Heavyweight Championship rematch between current champion Fabricio Werdum and former two-time champion Cain Velasquez. A series of events eventually led to a main event shuffle: on January 24, 13 days before the event, Velasquez pulled out of the bout due to a back injury and was replaced by Stipe Miocic. On the following day, Werdum announced that he was pulling out of the event due to injury as well as he wasn't comfortable with the opponent change while dealing with injuries of his own.
- With no viable main event options remaining, on January 26 UFC President Dana White announced the company was canceling the pay-per-view broadcast. Therefore, UFC 196 became a Fight Night card. The event will now air on Fox Sports 1 and will be headlined by a five-round welterweight bout between former UFC Welterweight Champion Johny Hendricks and five-time kickboxing world champion Stephen Thompson. The two were originally scheduled to meet in the co-main event.
- Mickey Gall, whose first pro bout and subsequent call-out of former WWE Champion CM Punk were featured on UFC Fight Pass' Looking for a Fight reality show, will face fellow newcomer Mike Jackson. With a win, Gall is expected to face Punk later this year.
- Burkman vs. Noons: Both guys fought at Welterweight for their last fight. This fight is at Lightweight, and it's the first time Burkman has ever fought at Lightweight. Due to the IV ban, it could make things interesting.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 04 2016 05:44. Posts 13047

First impression of the match-ups:

• Hendricks > Thompson
• Rosholt > Nelson
• OSP > Cavalcante
• Benavidez > Makovsky
• Cirkunov > Nicholson
• Spencer > Pyle
• Burkman vs. Noons (dunno. They're going down to 155 for this fight)
• Lewis > Grabowski
• Borg > Scoggins
• Lahat > Rivas
• Gall vs. Jackson (dunno)
• White > Lobov

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jvilla777   Australia. Feb 04 2016 06:02. Posts 1348

Dear God,

If you are listening,
Please give Big Country,
The power to KO,
This evil LayNPrayer Rosholt into oblivion..

Amen

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Minsk   United States. Feb 04 2016 06:38. Posts 1558


  On February 04 2016 05:02 jvilla777 wrote:
Dear God,

If you are listening,
Please give Big Country,
The power to KO,
This evil LayNPrayer Rosholt into oblivion..

Amen




haha

Zach Makovsky looked pretty good last fight I saw, the odds look really good on him to me. Any thoughts?

 Last edit: 04/02/2016 06:44

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 04 2016 07:07. Posts 13047


  On February 04 2016 05:38 Minsk wrote:
Show nested quote +



haha

Zach Makovsky looked pretty good last fight I saw, the odds look really good on him to me. Any thoughts?


Benavidez by decision.

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northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 04 2016 11:13. Posts 410

Odds are too wide on Benavidez - Makovsky. Makovsky worth stabbing, imo.

Nelson should starch Rosholt. He has good TDD and I just feel this is a typical Roy vs non elite heavyweight match up, where he is able to shine. Rosholt on the other is absolutely terrible on the feet and if he is not able to get Big Country down, he is going to sleep.

Main event is kind of interesting. I was thinking about stabbing Wonderboy just because I thought there is value in his big dog line, but that ship sailed with the recent line shift. Thinking about going Hendricks here at -200, he looks in great shape.


gebbstet   Sweden. Feb 04 2016 16:20. Posts 391

Could anyone tell my why I should not go allin on Hendricks? Im suprised the line is moving the way it is.

Why would this not be a easy win for Hendricks?
Hendricks is probably the best WW around and has extremely good wrestling, Wonderboy on the other hand does have great striking but I feel like he has never faced anyone even close to Hendricks.

I feel like if Hendricks can take GSP and Lawler down he should have no problem putting Wonderboy on the canvas as long as he gets a hold of him.

Also this will be his his fourth five round fight which will also be an advantage.

Maybe Im missing something?


JonnyCosMo   United States. Feb 04 2016 18:57. Posts 7292

That fight has a weird trap feeling to it. I thought the same thing, thinking Hendricks should be at least -300. In theory, he's a stylistic nightmare for Wonderboy, but we don't know what condition Hendricks is in, he's had several weight cutting issues in his recent fights. There might be an injury that he's been dealing with that hasn't been disclosed to the public, he hasn't fought in a while, the IV-ban might have a bigger impact on him than it does other fighters. I can't really explain it any other way, just feels weird so I'm staying away.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 04 2016 19:30. Posts 13047


  On February 04 2016 17:57 JonnyCosMo wrote:
That fight has a weird trap feeling to it. I thought the same thing, thinking Hendricks should be at least -300. In theory, he's a stylistic nightmare for Wonderboy, but we don't know what condition Hendricks is in, he's had several weight cutting issues in his recent fights. There might be an injury that he's been dealing with that hasn't been disclosed to the public, he hasn't fought in a while, the IV-ban might have a bigger impact on him than it does other fighters. I can't really explain it any other way, just feels weird so I'm staying away.






Most of the top guys have stsrted to adjust their diet due to the IV ban, Hendricks and Wonderboy included.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 05 2016 05:05. Posts 7499


  On February 04 2016 18:30 PuertoRican wrote:
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Most of the top guys have stsrted to adjust their diet due to the IV ban, Hendricks and Wonderboy included.


Weidman tried that, and came in the size of a WW and looked god awful.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 05 2016 05:21. Posts 7499

I think Hendricks went from -285ish to -210 because the fight was made into a 5 rounder and lots of people think Wonderboys chances are better in 5 rounds to find the tko.

Hendricks has gone 5 rounds 3 times and been ok. He's slowed down a little but he never completely gassed, and he looks to be in the best shape of his life, so I don't think 5 rounds is gonna hurt him.

Think he's great value at -210.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 05 2016 05:28. Posts 13047


  On February 05 2016 04:21 Stim_Abuser wrote:
I think Hendricks went from -285ish to -210 because the fight was made into a 5 rounder and lots of people think Wonderboys chances are better in 5 rounds to find the tko.

Hendricks has gone 5 rounds 3 times and been ok. He's slowed down a little but he never completely gassed, and he looks to be in the best shape of his life, so I don't think 5 rounds is gonna hurt him.

Think he's great value at -210.



Correct.

A bunch of idiots think Hendricks gassed so hard in his 5-round fights, but it isn't true. Yeah, he slowed down, but he wasn't huffing and puffing. Everyone slows down in a 5-round fight.

And people who think Wonderboy has an advantage in a 5-round fight versus Hendricks are dumb. No need to explain the reasoning behind this.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 05 2016 06:21. Posts 7499

Firas is usually great but having trained Wonderboy he seems pretty biased.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 05 2016 10:45. Posts 13047


  On February 05 2016 05:21 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Firas is usually great but having trained Wonderboy he seems pretty biased.



I just finished listening to it.

Aside from Firas mentioning Wonderboy being a great striker about 900 times, he didn't seem biased to me. He presented positives and negatives for both guys, and talked about the different scenarios.

From what I can tell, Firas was able to separate his bias just enough to give us an honest breakdown, which is something he is known for.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 05 2016 15:25. Posts 9634

Whats a IV ban ? Read some articles, still don' t understand shit.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Feb 05 2016 17:00. Posts 7080

Basically when they cut to make the weight they completely dehydrate and destroy the body. It has to be replenished as much as possible and they do that with IV. In order to start a process to where people cut less weight and don't destroy their bodies in the process of dehydrating and rehydrating hey have introduced an IV ban, which means that many fighters have to take a different approach to their diet and weight cutting. In this case I would say it is a reason to bet on Hendricks because he has been reported to be taking all of that more seriously than ever. If that wasn't the case the IV ban would be a huge problem for him because he has always had trouble making weight, which is what Cosmo is referring to. I ended up betting fairly big on Hendricks for $660 at -220, I'm not a huge believer in Wonderboy and was considering going even bigger.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 05 2016 19:31. Posts 9634

That sounds like a huge game changer for most of the fighters. No wonder McGregor went into the bigger division too. But lower division will suffer a lot because of it :/


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 05 2016 21:39. Posts 13047


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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 05 2016 21:42. Posts 7499

USADA's reasoning for banning IV's is actually because apparently it's used to mask PED use somehow. I'd think it'd be super easy to get around. They test for it by testing your blood for whatever plastic IV bags come in. Apparently traces of it can be found in your pee. But couldn't you just use a glass bottle IV? Or a bunch of other materials?

Anyways, Hendricks is looking fucking scary. We might be seeing a new super Hendricks.



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flounder44   United States. Feb 05 2016 22:37. Posts 916

fuck this card


Minsk   United States. Feb 06 2016 00:09. Posts 1558

I took a look at Thompson. Johny Hendricks looks like a goldmine, maybe I'm missing something.
Hes a very high level striker. I don't think Hendricks has any intention to strike with him.

 Last edit: 06/02/2016 00:14

Floofy   Canada. Feb 06 2016 00:47. Posts 8708


  On February 05 2016 23:09 Minsk wrote:
I took a look at Thompson. Johny Hendricks looks like a goldmine, maybe I'm missing something.
Hes a very high level striker. I don't think Hendricks has any intention to strike with him.



I also don't understand the odds.


Hendricks should be champion, i think hes best WW.
Thompson is good, but hes not top 5 caliber imo.
And its a style nightmare for Thompson.

I kinda stopped betting on 5Dimes due to doing too bad on it, but my DK teams will definetly have Hendricks a lot.


Then again, i'm not an expert mma better and i can clearly be wrong.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 06 2016 01:42. Posts 13047

Johny Hendricks (170) vs. Stephen Thompson (170)
Roy Nelson (258) vs. Jared Rosholt (245)
Rafael Cavalcante (205) vs. Ovince Saint Preux (206)
Joseph Benavidez (125) vs. Zach Makovsky (125)
Misha Cirkunov (206) vs. Alex Nicholson (201)
Mike Pyle (170) vs. Sean Spencer (170)
Josh Burkman (156) vs. K.J. Noons (156)
Damian Grabowski (235) vs. Derrick Lewis (263)
Ray Borg (125) vs. Justin Scoggins (125)
Noad Lahat (145) vs. Diego Rivas (144)
Mickey Gall (170) vs. Mike Jackson (170)
Artem Lobov (145) vs. Alex White (145)


- Hendricks looked great. Thompson looked good, too.
- Benavidez and Makovsky are identical in size. I thought Makovsky would be shorter for some reason.
- Cirkunov looked massive and will be even bigger on fight-night. Nicholson is longer, but he won't get much bigger by the time he actually fights.
- Noons looked pretty good, but he's a part-time fighter with a lot of non-fighting stuff going on in his life, so him having abs doesn't mean much to me because he hasn't upgraded his skills in the past 5 years or so. Burkman looked a little drained, but it's his first fight at 155, so it's expected. Total pass for me.
- Borg looked better than last time, which is funny cuz he raped his opponent after looking terrible on the scale. Scoggins is 3-4 inches taller, but I think that will work against him.
- Gall and Jackson are similar in size. Gall is a BJJ guy with crappy striking and basic take downs, while Jackson is a striker with no ground game. All the pressure is on Gall in this fight.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 06 2016 04:18. Posts 1558

I have

Hendricks ML
Makovsky ML
Cavalcante ML


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 06 2016 04:28. Posts 13047


  On February 06 2016 03:18 Minsk wrote:
I have

Hendricks ML
Makovsky ML
Cavalcante ML



Makovsky decision & Cavalcante KO = the most likely outcome if they win

Hendricks ML is a good bet, especially if you got it at -215 or better. His ML is worse now; it got bet down after he looked great at the weigh-in.

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alejandicto   . Feb 06 2016 16:27. Posts 865

I made a parlay on Benavidez + Thompson. I made it when Thompson was at +230


Minsk   United States. Feb 06 2016 18:37. Posts 1558

Theres a nice Hendricks ITD bet at 2.87. What you think? Five round fight with a soft opponent, seems like good odds. I'm almost getting scared by the odds where maybe I'm missing something, and not taking it.....yet.....what the fuck.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 06 2016 19:59. Posts 13047


  On February 06 2016 17:37 Minsk wrote:
Theres a nice Hendricks ITD bet at 2.87. What you think? Five round fight with a soft opponent, seems like good odds. I'm almost getting scared by the odds where maybe I'm missing something, and not taking it.....yet.....what the fuck.


Thompson isn't soft, which is why Hendricks' KO/TKO and ITD lines look juicy/good

Most bettors think Hendricks wins by decision most of the time.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 06 2016 20:25. Posts 1558

I didn't take the bet, I think hes soft, but more important has good movement and elusive. Hendricks usually knocks people out with his hands not GnP, he might have trouble connecting here, but it is a 5 round fight. Took Cavalcante ITD instead.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 00:46. Posts 13047


  On February 06 2016 19:25 Minsk wrote:
I didn't take the bet, I think hes soft, but more important has good movement and elusive. Hendricks usually knocks people out with his hands not GnP, he might have trouble connecting here, but it is a 5 round fight. Took Cavalcante ITD instead.



Hendricks only knocks people out when he's facing opponents with poor head movement. He hasn't knocked anyone out in 3+ years, and it's mostly due to him throwing the same punches in every fight and setting them up the same way; people have learned how to avoid his full power.

Cavalcante KO/TKO is better than ITD, since he won't submit OSP.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 07 2016 02:10. Posts 34250

I think its also because Hendrix used to be more wild and brawled more throwing often at 100% without covering up properly and while that makes you KO often, it also doesnt fly in high level fights... kind of how Wanderlei lost so easily vs an improved Rampage.

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Minsk   United States. Feb 07 2016 02:18. Posts 1558

Diego Rivas looked really good for the whole 2nd round that I watched that fight.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 02:28. Posts 13047


  On February 07 2016 01:18 Minsk wrote:
Diego Rivas looked really good for the whole 2nd round that I watched that fight.



Rivas looked good during the entire 23 seconds of Round 2?

Round 1 was almost a 10-8 in Lahat's favor.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 02:53. Posts 13047

Great performance from Justin Scoggins.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 07 2016 03:01. Posts 7499

Yea Scoggins looked like a beast.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 03:11. Posts 13047

Welcome to the UFC, Damian Grabowski!

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 04:30. Posts 13047

GREAT FIGHT between Mike Pyle and Sean Spencer!

Mike Pyle is back, baby!

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Minsk   United States. Feb 07 2016 05:43. Posts 1558

Benevidez by decision it is...
Gogo Cavalcante....2nd bullet.


Minsk   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:02. Posts 1558

I guess I just bet on someone that has no intention of winning...that was pathetic. He couldn't throw 4 more leg kicks?


Minsk   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:03. Posts 1558

Faggot fuck, I'm sure he will get fired. Cost me the bet.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:15. Posts 13047


  On February 07 2016 05:03 Minsk wrote:
Faggot fuck, I'm sure he will get fired. Cost me the bet.



Cavalcante will get fired for sure.

Too bad OSP hurt his foot, or else he would've finished the fight in Round 1.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 07 2016 06:21. Posts 34250

.... it looked almost as he was paid to lose what in the fuck was he doing?

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:39. Posts 13047

Happy to see Roy Nelson with another win, and Jared Rosholt with another loss.


  On February 07 2016 05:21 Baalim wrote:
.... it looked almost as he was paid to lose what in the fuck was he doing?



Cavalcante has sucked ever since he came to the UFC. I think he did steroids in Strikeforce and got off of them when the UFC bought Strikeforce.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:56. Posts 13047

Stephen "WONDERBOY" Thompson!


Precision beats power!!!

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 07 2016 06:57. Posts 34250

holy shit

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Floofy   Canada. Feb 07 2016 06:57. Posts 8708

Hendricks off peds??

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alejandicto   . Feb 07 2016 06:58. Posts 865


  On February 06 2016 15:27 alejandicto wrote:
I made a parlay on Benavidez + Thompson. I made it when Thompson was at +230



FUck yeah!! :D :D. Nice, thompson is a fucking beast


traxamillion   United States. Feb 07 2016 06:59. Posts 10468

Didn't see that coming wow


jvilla777   Australia. Feb 07 2016 07:00. Posts 1348

YESSSS, bet on wonderboy on 2 sites.

edit: I don't know what it is but I always seem to just favour dudes that are taller and longer vs shorter stockier dudes

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!Last edit: 07/02/2016 07:01

goose58   United States. Feb 07 2016 07:00. Posts 871

I bet on Thompson for exactly the reason he won. Hendricks is really good but I figured this would be a stand up war and long range combined with a smart fighter is hard to overcome even for a former champion. Demolished!


TimDawg    United States. Feb 07 2016 07:01. Posts 10197

jesus, that Thompson guy was sick

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 07 2016 07:08. Posts 7499


  On February 07 2016 05:57 Floofy wrote:
Hendricks off peds??



He didn't even look super bad or anything, Thompson just looked amazing. Possible though. This is the 2nd fighter ( Weidman ) post USADA who dropped a lot of weight and came out and got whooped.

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 07:15. Posts 13047

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 07 2016 07:31. Posts 34250

This looks like a really bad matchup for Lawler, he is going to stand there getting kicked in the forearms trying to get in range

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Floofy   Canada. Feb 07 2016 07:35. Posts 8708


  On February 07 2016 06:31 Baalim wrote:
This looks like a really bad matchup for Lawler, he is going to stand there getting kicked in the forearms trying to get in range



I agree, i don't really see a path to victory for lawler.

He might be able to endure damage longer than Hendricks, but that wont do anything.
His standup is maybe a little better, but that won't do anything either.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 07 2016 09:59. Posts 7499

That was some of the best striking I ever seen. Really reminiscent of Anderson vs Leben/Franklin. I'm scared for Lawler.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 07 2016 10:06. Posts 34250


  On February 07 2016 08:59 Stim_Abuser wrote:
That was some of the best striking I ever seen. Really reminiscent of Anderson vs Leben/Franklin. I'm scared for Lawler.



If for some reason the line shows Lawler as favourite its a snap big bet

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northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 07 2016 11:59. Posts 410

Absolutely stunning performance by Wonderboy. He made Johny Hendricks look like a complete bum in there. The guy has improved leaps and bounds since his first fights in the ufc, really was great to watch that destruction.

I think Lawler will fare a lot better than Hendricks, since he has better movement and more means to get inside boxing range. Anyways Thompson should be favorite. Robbie has been in way to many wars lately and his chin has taken a lot of damage. Wonderboy probably will find him at some point and put him out.

Mickey Gall is going to demolish CM Punk.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Feb 07 2016 12:02. Posts 6817


  On February 07 2016 06:08 Stim_Abuser wrote:
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He didn't even look super bad or anything, Thompson just looked amazing. Possible though. This is the 2nd fighter ( Weidman ) post USADA who dropped a lot of weight and came out and got whooped.

How can you say he didn't look bad and bring up the Weidman comparison? He looked incredibly flat and tiny in there... I think he looked awful.

Part of might just be Thompson being big, but Hendricks still looked very flat :/

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northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 07 2016 12:31. Posts 410

He looked a lot smaller than before, but many people were saying he looks in the best shape of his life after the weigh in. Weidman is a good comparison since He also came in shredded and smaller than before and got manhandled.

Hendricks really looked lost in there after not being able to take Wonderboy down in his first try. Couldn't figure out the range, got frustrated and rushed in right into Thompson's punches.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Feb 07 2016 17:46. Posts 7080

lol wtf T_T

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 07 2016 20:45. Posts 13047


  On February 07 2016 11:02 TianYuan wrote:
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How can you say he didn't look bad and bring up the Weidman comparison? He looked incredibly flat and tiny in there... I think he looked awful.

Part of might just be Thompson being big, but Hendricks still looked very flat :/





Weight wise, Hendricks looked good. His body was more solid and he had less body fat.

He has a weird build. He's the same height as Benson Henderson at 5'9, but it's impossible for Hendricks to move to 155, and he's way too small for 185, which is why he avoided 185 even after Dana White said he'd have to fight there after the last time he missed weight.

Also, more modern welterweights are 5'11 to 6'0 on average. Hendricks is 5'9 with a 69 in reach, and Wonderboy is 6'0 with a 75 inch reach.

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Feb 07 2016 20:58. Posts 7292

Fucking knew it was the traaaap

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Feb 07 2016 20:59. Posts 7292

Hope they match him with Maia so I can shove all-in on Maia when line opens at like +400.

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cariadon   Estonia. Feb 07 2016 22:01. Posts 4019

I'm impressed by Wonderboy. Hendricks must've lost a fair bit of muscle. Hendricks is easy to overrate i guess. Thompson is Condit with harder everything. Card was shit up to that point but main event delivered. Bunch of bums walking in circles... not much for a casual spectator.


Floofy   Canada. Feb 08 2016 01:28. Posts 8708


  On February 07 2016 19:59 JonnyCosMo wrote:
Hope they match him with Maia so I can shove all-in on Maia when line opens at like +400.



I agree Maia +400 is good, but r u sure he will win?

If Maia gets you down, he is super dangerous, but he has to get you down.
I don't think Maia's wrestling is better than Hendricks.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 08 2016 10:09. Posts 7499


  On February 07 2016 11:02 TianYuan wrote:
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How can you say he didn't look bad and bring up the Weidman comparison? He looked incredibly flat and tiny in there... I think he looked awful.

Part of might just be Thompson being big, but Hendricks still looked very flat :/



He got hurt almost immediately after his first failed takedown, and continued eating big shots till the end. He didn't get much of a chance to show anything, Wonderboy was busy teeing off on his face.

It's definitely possible he missed that TD though because he lost a lot of size and strength.

I do think it's wise to be weary of anyone losing significant size in these USADA days is all.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny peteLast edit: 08/02/2016 10:20

MiPwnYa    Brasil. Feb 08 2016 12:03. Posts 5230


  On February 08 2016 00:28 Floofy wrote:
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I agree Maia +400 is good, but r u sure he will win?

If Maia gets you down, he is super dangerous, but he has to get you down.
I don't think Maia's wrestling is better than Hendricks.

you don't need to be "sure he will win" to place a bet at +400


northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 08 2016 13:13. Posts 410

LOL, Wonderboy is going to kick Maia face off. Don't see how Maia can close the distance with his slow movement and terrible stand up, so he can get close to grapple with him .


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 08 2016 19:35. Posts 13047


  On February 08 2016 09:09 Stim_Abuser wrote:
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He got hurt almost immediately after his first failed takedown, and continued eating big shots till the end. He didn't get much of a chance to show anything, Wonderboy was busy teeing off on his face.

It's definitely possible he missed that TD though because he lost a lot of size and strength.

I do think it's wise to be weary of anyone losing significant size in these USADA days is all.



Did you watch the post-fight press conference? Hendricks said he felt good and strong, and that he had a good camp for this fight, and that he felt the best he has. He also said he never felt stronger.

He went on to say that Wonderboy was the better fighter that day, then he said "Wonderboy is the better fighter" toward the end of the conference. He said that he didn't train for Wonderboy's specific in-and-out style, and that he expected him to stand and trade more instead of moving, aka he expected Wonderboy to stand and bang.

There's no excuses anyone can make in this fight as to why Hendricks lost, he simply got beat by a better fighter, which Hendricks himself agrees with.

Rekrul is a newb 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 08 2016 21:13. Posts 7499


  On February 08 2016 18:35 PuertoRican wrote:
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Did you watch the post-fight press conference? Hendricks said he felt good and strong, and that he had a good camp for this fight, and that he felt the best he has. He also said he never felt stronger.

He went on to say that Wonderboy was the better fighter that day, then he said "Wonderboy is the better fighter" toward the end of the conference. He said that he didn't train for Wonderboy's specific in-and-out style, and that he expected him to stand and trade more instead of moving, aka he expected Wonderboy to stand and bang.

There's no excuses anyone can make in this fight as to why Hendricks lost, he simply got beat by a better fighter, which Hendricks himself agrees with.



Dunno, whos to say a 200 pound Johnny Hendricks wouldn't of gotten that takedown against the fence? I'm not saying for sure Hendricks was coming off roids, just that in the future I'm going to be suspicious of people losing a lot of mass these days. It was a good read by Cosmo, losing like 20+ pounds in 4 months and still fighting at the same weight class was weird. Sure alot of that was fat, but some of it was muscle too. It's not possible to lose that much weight in that short of a time frame without losing muscle.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny peteLast edit: 08/02/2016 21:15

northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 08 2016 21:53. Posts 410

For anyone intersted DJ is -220 against Henry Cejudo at betsson/betsafe. I find that line absolutely insane and I will be hammering it hard.

Also Machida vs Henderson at -250 and Maia vs Brown at -260. Great value there.

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 09 2016 01:21. Posts 11625

we're going to see a bunch of fighters "go soft" with the banning of IVs. I've read somewhere weight cutting is going to be banned soon which is very interesting.

I'm still guessing RDA is next, still not convinced of the incredible career leap that guy has had. Not to mention how he suddenly looked like the hulk, the new, stricter tests will be implemented March. I expect him to show up for mcgoat softer

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northsails   Bulgaria. Feb 09 2016 01:28. Posts 410

RDA is the real deal. I was reading the same comments prior to his Cerrone fight and he looked great and steamrolled him.

Conor is still going to murk him, though. Really hope late money come on RDA, because I am not happy with the current odds.


 



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