Let's go to Europe!!! - Page 7

On February 14 2016 17:12 uiCk wrote: who cares where they from, people are free to try and migrate where ever they want/can go to, wtf is so hard to understand; there are international rules for asylum seekers; if you want to do something about it, build walls, militarize your broders, or STFU and let the people in charge deal with this, don't need no sub iq retartds spewing their dumbass opinions about how they feel about situations that have no real effect on. and fucking Whammm stfu with brainwash cult molyneux garbage, read some real pieces from real experts on the issues at hand then some retartd who has minimal understanding of psychology that he uses to manipulate and brainwash naive retards like you whammm

I'm not a Molyneux fan, actually more of a hater really, but what you wrote that I bolded comes off to most people as "read/listen to the stuff I like to listen to and agree with it or you're stupid/wrong" which is kind of childish.

Your entire tone is kind of ridiculous actually. If you're so passionate about the issue try to actually provoke some dialogue and change minds, what you're doing here just sounds like someone trying to show off their moral and intellectual superiority for their own self esteem.

video ending cliffs:
"western men have given western women freedom of will and choice in their society
and western women are now choosing who will take that away from them"

Yeah, so noble of men to allow women all these privileges. Then the civilization-destroying bitches let the foreign rapists win because they make European men feminine too.

All this video showed was a series of ridic opinions presented as facts. "Women are the root of europe's decline and the barbaric foreigners will be it's downfall" -jeez grandpa thanks a lot for the intellectual style of presentation of ideas from the middle ages. I guess we'll revoke their privileges until the Sith are fought back.

Do people who think like this even have women in their lives? How do they put up with shit like this?

edit: I love the quality of comments from people who like videos like this:

Steve Dunshea 11 hours ago
Marriage was instituted to control and feminise men.

Kalki Vishnu 11 hours ago
You do a great job expounding on the symptoms, but don't even touch on the root of the problems! Who leads feminism? Jews! Who pushes our women into the workplace & discourages childbirth? Jews! Who emasculates & feminizes men? Jews! Who encourages promiscuity among women (e.g. Sex and the City...)? Jews! Every problem you mentioned - JEWS ARE BEHIND IT! This is not accidental or 'a conspiracy theory'...no! This is their historical role! Jews murder civilizations!?

still conflicted about the last one being a troll post, though he had 5 upvotes which are probably genuine

More stupid right wing propaganda for us LP anti-immigration retards
Probably paid actors or just shitty racists pushing their agenda

Sweden hiring luxury cruise liners to house 2000 refugees
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...t-insists-need-encouragement-get.html

On February 18 2016 10:32 lebowski wrote: video ending cliffs: "western men have given western women freedom of will and choice in their society and western women are now choosing who will take that away from them" Yeah, so noble of men to allow women all these privileges. Then the civilization-destroying bitches let the foreign rapists win because they make European men feminine too. P

Here something from your history

yeah I've seen it
they also had slaves around that time, what's your point?
(you could be ok with slavery idk)

btw assemblywomen is a play, not facts, the author followed his own times and wrote a play intended to be funny for men. Instead of having women do what men usually do, he puts women in a spot where they transform the state according to what the traditional role of women was thought to be back then. The play used widely accepted gender roles and was meant to be funny -to men- and not a social study or argumentation on whether these gender roles were valid or necessary.

Is this some sort of "wise ancestors did it so it must be good" argument? I thought these were only valid among greeks obsessed with the military

Debt slavery is not freedom. Don't pretend like ancient Greece > todays Greece what have you guys even done in the past 2000 years? The point was that women vote left because they vote with their heart obviously.

On February 18 2016 17:57 lebowski wrote: argumentation on whether these gender roles were valid or necessary. Is this some sort of "wise ancestors did it so it must be good" argument? I thought these were only valid among greeks obsessed with the military

This sounds like something straight out of occupied university. Literally can't accept that this is how the world has always been run.

solid estrogen-fuelled white knighting, do you even lift lebowski? go do some squats or somthing

I can't wrap my head around how one could think it's "standard" that women are destroying civilizations and should be stripped off their voting rights etc, making me a "white knight"(in a forum where there was once only one woman and she was fake lol)

Mortensen you compare debt slavery to real slavery as if they are the same. I bet I know which one you'd choose if you had to. Of course Greece has nothing to show culturally over the last gazillion years, who gives a shit? Just because the ancient greeks were an advanced civilization for their time doesn't mean that everything they did was good or justified. Hunting down slaves for sport like the Spartans did, for example. I bet these are heroes for dogmeat because a) they were lifting b) it was like it's their job to be dicks to everyone else

Suppose I'm fully well intentioned and I want to believe what you're saying. Do you actually think that "women vote with their heart" is a solid argument? That the "care morality" that the dude in the video briefly mentions is something other than simplistic and rushing to make a certain conclusion?
Meanwhile the notion that men are voting "for justice" and selfless reasons... just lol. If one followed the video maker's logic with sincerity, nobody should be allowed to vote because the underlying motivation is always egoistic in origin.

I'll say this though: If men commonly had some desirable traits that can't be found in women, like passion for justice, the will to excel etc. it's absurd to insist that women could never be brought to nurture these traits, just because they carry eggs inside of them instead of sperm. Tradition enforces and perpetuates certain mannerisms on both men and women to an unknown degree, all the people who dislike the way women collectively seem to think or act (generalizing of course) are suspiciously over eager to chalk it up to physiological differences. Self patting on the back I guess. Whatever makes people feeling comfortable and good.

On February 18 2016 18:27 Mortensen8 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2016 17:57 lebowski wrote: argumentation on whether these gender roles were valid or necessary. Is this some sort of "wise ancestors did it so it must be good" argument? I thought these were only valid among greeks obsessed with the military This sounds like something straight out of occupied university. Literally can't accept that this is how the world has always been run.

I have no idea why you're saying this or why you're partially quoting me here, what I'm saying is that Aristophanes took the traditional gender roles of his time for granted, as expected

On February 19 2016 10:48 lebowski wrote: I can't wrap my head around how one could think it's "standard" that women are destroying civilizations and should be stripped off their voting rights etc, making me a "white knight"(in a forum where there was once only one woman and she was fake lol) Mortensen you compare debt slavery to real slavery as if they are the same. I bet I know which one you'd choose if you had to. Of course Greece has nothing to show culturally over the last gazillion years, who gives a shit? Just because the ancient greeks were an advanced civilization for their time doesn't mean that everything they did was good or justified. Hunting down slaves for sport like the Spartans did, for example. I bet these are heroes for dogmeat because a) they were lifting b) it was like it's their job to be dicks to everyone else Suppose I'm fully well intentioned and I want to believe what you're saying. Do you actually think that "women vote with their heart" is a solid argument? That the "care morality" that the dude in the video briefly mentions is something other than simplistic and rushing to make a certain conclusion? Meanwhile the notion that men are voting "for justice" and selfless reasons... just lol. If one followed the video maker's logic with sincerity, nobody should be allowed to vote because the underlying motivation is always egoistic in origin. I'll say this though: If men commonly had some desirable traits that can't be found in women, like passion for justice, the will to excel etc. it's absurd to insist that women could never be brought to nurture these traits, just because they carry eggs inside of them instead of sperm. Tradition enforces and perpetuates certain mannerisms on both men and women to an unknown degree, all the people who dislike the way women collectively seem to think or act (generalizing of course) are suspiciously over eager to chalk it up to physiological differences. Self patting on the back I guess. Whatever makes people feeling comfortable and good.

so your view of the situation is "women and men are no different, oh and also women can be fixed to be like men"

young people right now are the furthest left-wing they've been since the 70s, and young women are more so than young men. this observation shouldn't be that controversial

on another note, an enormous red flag with the far left is the collaboration with social media giants to censor dissent

yeah, you should check your reading comprehension because your summary of what I wrote is a ridic strawman.

Wait a minute, all these videos and comments promoting traditionalism with an aura of machismo. What sort of description does this remind me of

http://interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html

can't be

On February 21 2016 13:51 lebowski wrote: yeah, you should check your reading comprehension because your summary of what I wrote is a ridic strawman. Wait a minute, all these videos and comments promoting traditionalism with an aura of machismo. What sort of description does this remind me of http://interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html can't be

i'm sorry i thought strawmanning was par for the course after you started talking about taking away women's suffrage

On February 21 2016 18:26 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On February 21 2016 13:51 lebowski wrote: yeah, you should check your reading comprehension because your summary of what I wrote is a ridic strawman. Wait a minute, all these videos and comments promoting traditionalism with an aura of machismo. What sort of description does this remind me of http://interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html can't be i'm sorry i thought strawmanning was par for the course after you started talking about taking away women's suffrage

lol
Just try to explain how a video that proposes women are biologically incapable of voting in a way that doesn't destroy a civilization has nothing to do with taking away their suffrage. Do you really need the vid maker to spell it out for you?

I'll just requote the vid's ending for you
"western men have given western women freedom of will and choice in their society
and western women are now choosing who will take that away from them"

http://newobserveronline.com/dutch-pegida-man-arrested-for-pig-hat/

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives...entre-site-after-pegida-rally-in-ede/

inside the liberal mind:
-Migrants commit violence, sexual violence, theft, thuggery, systematic sexual abuse of children
-Islamists torture, murder, and mass-murder people worldwide
"I'm not saying I condone it, but I understand where they're coming from, I'd be angry too because of <imperialist colonialism oppression> and insulting cartoons, it's basically white people's fault they're just fighting back."

-Someone dumps dead pigs in response to their country importing welfare migrants that they never asked for
"So intolerant."