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On February 26 2016 19:59 uiCk wrote: Im just calling out his slipery slope of "protecting our genes" reasoning. Specifically because hes quoting american white supremist groups (read: new age KKK), while also neglecting the non whites that live in europe. You know, not like this slipery slope has never happened in our history....

What exactly do you mean by this. This makes almost no sense. How do american white 'supremist' groups relate to 'neglecting the non whites that live in europe.'

On February 26 2016 18:48 uiCk wrote: The white race lol

On February 26 2016 19:18 uiCk wrote: More white supremacy lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine)

On February 26 2016 19:48 uiCk wrote: White power!

On February 26 2016 20:04 uiCk wrote: Anyways, sorry to interup the white supremacy circle jerk

I just want to let this sit here so you might ask yourself what you're doing, uiCk

On February 26 2016 11:57 Spitfiree wrote: Situation in Bulgaria and why thing developed as they are : You have to understand that our political parties have never served for their own country's interest ever since the socialism has fallen @ 1989(Not saying that socialism did so). However there was a well made project by the russians to basically control the country while it looks like its Turkey thats doing so. I'm guessing that was a cooperative action by both countries. A party called " Movement for Rights and Freedom " had all of the turkish and gipsies votes ever since then and even though they are far from a majority played basically the most major role in governments for almost 3 decades. Now you have to understand that our society is brainwashed into hating turks because of almost 500 years of slavery by the Ottomans till 140 years ago, so this political party is viewed as " the villain " here. You also have to realize that we are strategically and logistically probably the most important spot in Europe when it comes to geopolitics so the war about it between USA, Russia and Mid East is huge here, thats why its their interests that are served. However since the incidents between Russia and Turkey there is a direct politic into spreading political chaos here. Thats why Turkey blew Russia's cover about the party mentioned above, that it was financed by the russians and so on ( banned most influential persons in the party mentioned above into entering the country, an information not yet confirmed, but most likely true, revealing the truth ). Meanwhile the USA is producing tons of weapons. Its a tricky situation cause we lack the resources to stop immigrants and a political destabilisation could potentially cause huge problems for Europe. The country will just fall as another victim in the fight for geopolitical influence between NATO and Russia. What I don't understand is, why Turkey acted the way it acted, as they have now lost any control over Bulgaria as the turkish minorities have switched to other parties and there will be no ways to regain that for at least a decade imo. The diplomat banned by Turkey is a prodigy of the previous pro-Russia government, so thats no surprise there. Thats cause of the tension between the two countries Anyway the mentioned above " Rightist Patriotic Front " are just a bunch of clowns that no one takes seriously, they have no influence, they have no power. They are a bunch of idiots that want to bring extreme right measures such as military duty for everyone between 18-32. It's no wonder dogmeat quoted them, as he grasps for any straw he can get anywhere when it comes to argumenting his extreme ideas. The things described above however pose a real threat for not just Bulgaria, but Europe as a whole and a yet another destabilisation of the Balkans. Hopefully the USA wont let it happen, as they are the ones that could easily prevent it imo, considering they have crucial military bases here and in Romania p.s. for anyone trying to justify their dumbass views about people not being right into seeking asylum should pick a book of Khaled Housseini and see what the situation in Afghanistan was then multiply that a few times and they ll get the picture in Syria.

i'll try to respond to this post just because it actually contains information so people can see it again

asylum is an important thing in the world, but it's about individuals being persecuted. it was not meant to transplant millions of people at a time across continents, across languages, religions, and cultures. and for good reason, because such a policy is not an appropriate way for the international community to handle a collapsing country. where are all the europeans seeking asylum in iran? how about if 1 million europeans suddenly became "refugees" in thailand, i'm guessing nobody here thinks that would be a smart idea.

On the issue of Hijab in Iran. This is a photo taken literally on the streets of Tehran today. It just shows a bunch of random people in line to vote.
You can pretty much see how women in Tehran dress. That is the Iranian way of wearing Hijab. You can see one woman in the background that is wearing proper Hijab, and that she is 1 out of 10 people. That is pretty much a good representation of people who dress like that in Tehran. And nowhere you see women covering their face. That NEVER happens.

As why there are only girls in this photo, it is because the lineup for men and women at government related activity is separate. So there is obviously some issues still going on and mostly forced by official government business. But by no means Iranian women dress like Saudi or other Arab women. This is the Iranian version of Islam.

On February 26 2016 19:07 Mortensen8 wrote: Baal just fucking ban me I don't want to waste my time here anymore

I dont ban people for their opinion no matter what they are, I am not remotely sensitive and Im very hard to offend, you are advocating for genetic purity and removing women suffrage and Ive neer considered banning you, unlike Dogmeat who is simply shit, he isnt just posting opinions, he is plainly trolling and being a jackass in this and other unrelated threads and now he is gone for a few months.

So you are safe from banning as long as you keep it civil and keep your ridiculous ideas in the threads where they belong

On February 26 2016 22:30 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2016 19:59 uiCk wrote: Im just calling out his slipery slope of "protecting our genes" reasoning. Specifically because hes quoting american white supremist groups (read: new age KKK), while also neglecting the non whites that live in europe. You know, not like this slipery slope has never happened in our history.... What exactly do you mean by this. This makes almost no sense. How do american white 'supremist' groups relate to 'neglecting the non whites that live in europe.'

I meant that he is using arguments made by the views of (obvious) white supremacy group, while advocating the "freeze" of white genes, while living in a place that's already has non white integration (which is what I meant by neglect I guess, wrong wording/did not express myself properly)

Fully aware and conscious of me going full asshole unfiltered retard mode, so I'll bow out before I make myself looking like a bigger fool. Was not looking for a discussion I guess, and just berating beliefs I don't agree with.

girl in mid w no sunglasses is pretty hot

Girl voting next to a cleric in Tehran. So I have posted enough pics. The bullshit you see in photos about Iranian women all covered up in black like Arab women is just not true.

90% of the stuff they read is not true
they re just too stupid to realize it
don't bother
just enjoy and be amused

On February 27 2016 22:06 capaneo wrote: Girl voting next to a cleric in Tehran. So I have posted enough pics. The bullshit you see in photos about Iranian women all covered up in black like Arab women is just not true.

Apparently Iranians are more progressive than Mortensen who wants to ban women suffrage lol

Uick and dogmeat, u both are way over the top trying to provoke Baal with your posts. I've adjusted both your bans, but if that continues new ones are going to be coming from me.

On February 26 2016 23:39 capaneo wrote: On the issue of Hijab in Iran. This is a photo taken literally on the streets of Tehran today. It just shows a bunch of random people in line to vote. You can pretty much see how women in Tehran dress. That is the Iranian way of wearing Hijab. You can see one woman in the background that is wearing proper Hijab, and that she is 1 out of 10 people. That is pretty much a good representation of people who dress like that in Tehran. And nowhere you see women covering their face. That NEVER happens. As why there are only girls in this photo, it is because the lineup for men and women at government related activity is separate. So there is obviously some issues still going on and mostly forced by official government business. But by no means Iranian women dress like Saudi or other Arab women. This is the Iranian version of Islam.

Acctually they are wearing hijab "wrongly" according to Islamic law and if the moral police saw this they would get punished.

Yep they will be driven to the stadium and killed with stones
I saw it in a hollywood movie

Meanwhile the political party working towards the West won the election there
Hopefully Trump wins in the USA so he can bomb those savages though, who do they think they are

On February 28 2016 17:27 VanDerMeyde wrote: Acctually they are wearing hijab "wrongly" according to Islamic law and if the moral police saw this they would get punished.

No, Shia muslims have different regulations for how their women should dress.

Hijab in general is more cultural than religious, even pious Pakistanis for example often don't cover their hair. Hair covering in Iran and Afghanistan is kind of a newer (and troubling) phenomenon.

I don't want to get too personal or involved in this discussion, but afaik Capaneo is Persian and as such his perspective on Islam are not exactly the same as Wahabbi/Jihadi fucks from ISIS etc.

On February 28 2016 14:43 Defrag wrote: Uick and dogmeat, u both are way over the top trying to provoke Baal with your posts. I've adjusted both your bans, but if that continues new ones are going to be coming from me.

uiCk wasn't trying to "provoke" Baal... he was making fun of Mortensen8.

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On February 28 2016 02:29 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2016 22:06 capaneo wrote: Girl voting next to a cleric in Tehran. So I have posted enough pics. The bullshit you see in photos about Iranian women all covered up in black like Arab women is just not true. Apparently Iranians are more progressive than Mortensen who wants to ban women suffrage lol

lmao yeah that Mortensen8 guy I mean come on what a w-

On February 23 2016 16:59 Mortensen8 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2016 11:48 nolan wrote:   On February 23 2016 08:54 Baalim wrote: I dont feel llike reading too much but did Mortensen suggest that women shouldnt vote? i think so, yes. Democracy is mob rule at this point. I do think women are more likely to support the popular ideology especially if it is the 'moral one'. I think they should vote but in this current climate I don't trust anyone to vote they inevitably vote for less liberty and more laws as we have seen with speech laws. If the population votes to incarcerate people for saying something wrong then there is something wrong with democracy.

oh.

On February 26 2016 23:39 capaneo wrote: On the issue of Hijab in Iran. This is a photo taken literally on the streets of Tehran today. It just shows a bunch of random people in line to vote. You can pretty much see how women in Tehran dress. That is the Iranian way of wearing Hijab. You can see one woman in the background that is wearing proper Hijab, and that she is 1 out of 10 people. That is pretty much a good representation of people who dress like that in Tehran. And nowhere you see women covering their face. That NEVER happens. As why there are only girls in this photo, it is because the lineup for men and women at government related activity is separate. So there is obviously some issues still going on and mostly forced by official government business. But by no means Iranian women dress like Saudi or other Arab women. This is the Iranian version of Islam.

never say "never," there was a movie about that btw. here's a picture from Iran, and no, it wasn't taken on Halloween
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niq%C4%81b#/media/File:Woman_wearing_battula.jpg

I find your motives quite suspect. Most normal people don't support systematically forcing women to cover up to stay "modest" no matter how small the article. Why the continued apologetics about Iranian garb?

you might say things like well, we have reason to be hopeful about the future of Iran (like people were in the 70s before it took a step backwards) because it has a young population (subsidized babies after the war with Iraq left a hole in the population, if I recall correctly) and so forth, but this is the same Iran that has a bounty on Salman Rushdie's life, so to boast that you can see most women's cheeks in public in Tehran seems to me to amount to saying a rotten apple doesn't have a razor blade hidden inside it. despite seeming more appealing than the alternative, the apple still isn't edible.

interesting:
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On February 29 2016 01:57 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2016 17:27 VanDerMeyde wrote: Acctually they are wearing hijab "wrongly" according to Islamic law and if the moral police saw this they would get punished. No, Shia muslims have different regulations for how their women should dress. Hijab in general is more cultural than religious, even pious Pakistanis for example often don't cover their hair. Hair covering in Iran and Afghanistan is kind of a newer (and troubling) phenomenon. I don't want to get too personal or involved in this discussion, but afaik Capaneo is Persian and as such his perspective on Islam are not exactly the same as Wahabbi/Jihadi fucks from ISIS etc.

From the protest Group "my stealthy freedom" on facebook:
(Comment on capaneo's Picture from the group)

"On Election Day, we somehow enjoy more personal freedoms, but the following day, the morality police are back on duty.
The severity of Iran’s dress code always goes through fluctuations based on the political calculations of the clerics. Today is the Election Day in Iran and the Islamic Republic wants to attract as many voters as possible to the ballot box. Electoral participation is crucial to the regime as it intends to give the world and Iranians themselves the message that their regime is legitimate—though it remains to be seen whether the will of people at the ballot box will ultimately be respected. In its drive to attract as many people as possible to the polls, on days like this, the Islamic regime can do unbelievable things. This includes, as depicted by the first picture, the possibility of a “badly-veiled” woman being able to cast her ballot next to a cleric whereas in reality on an ordinary day, as depicted by the second picture, the Morality Police would be on a witch-hunt scouring the streets of Iran for badly-veiled women."

Morality police:

https://www.google.no/search?q=morali...hUKEwiO4suv8ZzLAhVFJ5oKHeb_AMQQsAQINQ

Apparently some Asian nanny decapitated a four year old girl in Moscow and ran around with her head yelling Allahu Akbar and some other stuff.

I can't even handle this type of stuff anymore, i feel like puking.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016...scow-carrying-severed-head-of-toddler

On February 29 2016 06:51 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2016 14:43 Defrag wrote: Uick and dogmeat, u both are way over the top trying to provoke Baal with your posts. I've adjusted both your bans, but if that continues new ones are going to be coming from me. uiCk wasn't trying to "provoke" Baal... he was making fun of Mortensen8. + Show Spoiler + it also seems like Baal baited dogmeat just to be able to ban him but whatever.   On February 25 2016 12:38 Baalim wrote: yeah apparently a chairman of Rightist Patriotic Front (lol) claims the diplomat actually works for Turkish intelligence, why is this important? I hope you have the ability to control yourself because the next ban will be a permanent one. (In before you prove that you cant control yourself and respond to this warning in the wrong way and get perm-banned)   On February 28 2016 02:29 Baalim wrote:   On February 27 2016 22:06 capaneo wrote: Girl voting next to a cleric in Tehran. So I have posted enough pics. The bullshit you see in photos about Iranian women all covered up in black like Arab women is just not true. Apparently Iranians are more progressive than Mortensen who wants to ban women suffrage lol lmao yeah that Mortensen8 guy I mean come on what a w-   On February 23 2016 16:59 Mortensen8 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2016 11:48 nolan wrote:   On February 23 2016 08:54 Baalim wrote: I dont feel llike reading too much but did Mortensen suggest that women shouldnt vote? i think so, yes. Democracy is mob rule at this point. I do think women are more likely to support the popular ideology especially if it is the 'moral one'. I think they should vote but in this current climate I don't trust anyone to vote they inevitably vote for less liberty and more laws as we have seen with speech laws. If the population votes to incarcerate people for saying something wrong then there is something wrong with democracy. oh.   On February 26 2016 23:39 capaneo wrote: On the issue of Hijab in Iran. This is a photo taken literally on the streets of Tehran today. It just shows a bunch of random people in line to vote. You can pretty much see how women in Tehran dress. That is the Iranian way of wearing Hijab. You can see one woman in the background that is wearing proper Hijab, and that she is 1 out of 10 people. That is pretty much a good representation of people who dress like that in Tehran. And nowhere you see women covering their face. That NEVER happens. As why there are only girls in this photo, it is because the lineup for men and women at government related activity is separate. So there is obviously some issues still going on and mostly forced by official government business. But by no means Iranian women dress like Saudi or other Arab women. This is the Iranian version of Islam. never say "never," there was a movie about that btw. here's a picture from Iran, and no, it wasn't taken on Halloween https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niq%C4%81b#/media/File:Woman_wearing_battula.jpg I find your motives quite suspect. Most normal people don't support systematically forcing women to cover up to stay "modest" no matter how small the article. Why the continued apologetics about Iranian garb? you might say things like well, we have reason to be hopeful about the future of Iran (like people were in the 70s before it took a step backwards) because it has a young population (subsidized babies after the war with Iraq left a hole in the population, if I recall correctly) and so forth, but this is the same Iran that has a bounty on Salman Rushdie's life, so to boast that you can see most women's cheeks in public in Tehran seems to me to amount to saying a rotten apple doesn't have a razor blade hidden inside it. despite seeming more appealing than the alternative, the apple still isn't edible. interesting: + Show Spoiler +

I can show you photo of a woman here in Vancouver, Canada wearing the niqab? Or in LA. What does that tell you about how women has to dress in Canada or US?

As a matter of fact if you know the history and culture, people in 70s in Iran were A LOT more religious than today. A LOT more. Even though women didn't have to cover their head.

Iran having a bounty on Salman Rushdie, have nothing to do with this topic. Iran got bounty on a lot of other political targets. It is just how many regimes in the world work. A lot of countries assassinate the political figures who speak against them. Salman Rushdie's bounty is more political than religious.
Again, I am not defending Iran regime here, I am saying it is all about culture. There is no right or wrong Islam. It is just fabricated stories about gods created within cultures. And culture changes. But to say all the messed up things are because of Islam (or a certain race) is just a simplistic way of looking at things. For example I do blame the imperialistic policies of Soviet and USA alot more than Islam on the mess we have in middle-east today.

On March 01 2016 01:07 capaneo wrote: For example I do blame the imperialistic policies of Soviet and USA alot more than Islam on the mess we have in middle-east today.

It's kind of a mix of the both, looking back at things there is always progress towards democracy in any arab country that was previously under siege by either of the two, however thats for a few years then the native population with guns takes control after either Soviet/USA goes away and its extreme islam all over again forced upon people ... That's why i kind of support what USA did in Aghanistan post invasion, obviously the invasion was retarded as fuck, but this time they didn't let the Talibans run over the country once they go away.

You guys are using too much time on Mortensen, the guy is obviously one of these kind of people that whine and flame and blame everything wrong in their lives on something else rather than themselves... just let him disgrace himself more its w/e