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Whenever there's a coaching thread the daggers come out lol

he is def better than some of those coaches in the 2+2 listings. His price range is reasonable, I just think he should preface by saying hes not a stars reg, because obv everyone is going to want to know that. (I know that sounds silly, but you would be insane to go to a non stars reg for 2/4+ coaching, so it saves everyone the trouble of asking)

Is there a way for non americans to play on Bovada ?

On September 30 2015 03:13 handbanana21 wrote: he is def better than some of those coaches in the 2+2 listings. His price range is reasonable, I just think he should preface by saying hes not a stars reg, because obv everyone is going to want to know that. (I know that sounds silly, but you would be insane to go to a non stars reg for 2/4+ coaching, so it saves everyone the trouble of asking)

understood.

i did post 30k hands of 888/party tho obviously that doesn't mean a whole lot.

On September 30 2015 02:55 Rapoza wrote: Show nested quote + On September 29 2015 23:34 handbanana21 wrote: Prove you can beat stars at a good clip, and you are legit. Otherwise you will not be taken very seriously. I proposed the same thing 2 years ago and i got flamed lol. He obviously wont do it, the same way he declined Andrewsong HU challenge. Just to make things clear: its not a hate post, just facts. I personally find his blog to be very entertaining

I don't take this as an attack, you are posting facts.

I think it'd be pretty idiotic of me to purposefully choose to play in tougher games where I won't win as much money just to satisfy 'ego' or you guys who don't take me seriously.

You aren't required to take me seriously. Just ignore the post, nobody is pushing anything on you or pressuring you to do anything.

I guess a lot of guys don't have much else better to do with their time than try to attack others on the internet.

On September 29 2015 20:16 traxamillion wrote: dude there are several of us making a living from bovada games. if you notice on 2+2, people just don't want to talk about it. Why blow up a goldmine. Everyone knows bovada is softer than stars but they don't necessarily know how much softer so people aren't all necessarily flooding over from stars because stars has its own advantages. But if we go about talking about how msnl/hsnl there is the same as micros on mainstream sites (Lets not get into this but I am positive the top 25 reg on stars would win anywhere on bovada- Some people aren't capitalized for whatever reason). Bovada is largely a sportsbetting casino so fish can pop up anywhere. Marshall is good; but iono about that whole building a community thing when you are charging 400 an hour. If people see value in it though go for it because it will likely make you better. I used to play on Cake poker and it used to be the best, word spread and it wasn't so great anymore. That isn't really happening on Bovada right now because of the table cap (Do top grinders circumvent this?) im guessing but it could

Am i being trolled here? I'd expect a post like this from dogmeat.

It seems the average person thinks it's so easy that you can play while being blind and win money. I guess you think the same thing since you said "but I am positive the top 25 reg on stars would win anywhere on bovada" which is a pretty ridiculous statement.

And I'm not charging 400/hr. It's closer to 250/hr. I'm charging 400 for 1 hour because as was already stated by pooruser, the first hour is worth significantly more than the ensuing ones.

No disrespect or anything, but the NL25 and NL1000 comparaison is actually pretty accurate. I don't really know how you can be so delusionnal Marshall and not see that, no offence. But money is money, who cares. it's just that the guy who said that, is actually correct.

On September 30 2015 07:29 careface_ wrote: No disrespect or anything, but the NL25 and NL1000 comparaison is actually pretty accurate. I don't really know how you can be so delusionnal Marshall and not see that, no offence. But money is money, who cares. it's just that the guy who said that, is actually correct.

I have to stop getting involved in this, it's such a massive waste of my time. So many of you guys have these preconceived notions that are completely uninformed and misguided. I think probably the truth is that you lie to yourselves in order to make yourselves feel better about your own station and not being able to win at the level that you wish that you could or for whatever shortcomings and insecurities you might have but don't like.

I'm not saying all of you guys are like this, but quite a few are. It makes a bit more sense to me now why I'm getting so much hate. Are more than half of you even playing poker professionally?
I'm not sure why you guys think you understand what's even going on at the bovada 5/10 tables, particularly since the times I post hands, half of you guys can't even tell if I'm bluffing or value betting.

I think that for a lot of you guys, if you don't do a lot of introspection and work on yourselves, you can expect to live very unsatisfying lives.

I'm going to minimize the amount I contribute from here on out, I'd like to be able to have a part in the community, but I think we just have too little in common.

Good luck.

Late to the party here but I guess I have no point keeping this on the low since I don't play poker anymore but I facecrushed 10/20 bovada to the point where they told me to take my business elsewhere and the same again on bodog(thank u Marshall I owe u big time). I maxed cashed out for a year without a break and it took them quite awhile to cash my remaining balance even after my ban. I also did pretty well on other major euro sites but it wasn't the same after party/ipoker/micro removed 10/20+. However stars is another beast. Yes, a lot of the same top dogs on Stars grind these sites but its just different. Stars is the major league of poker. I've done the whole Stars tour twice and battled hard trying to win king of the hill spot and I'm not shamed to say that I failed pretty hard. There's over whelming amount of world class players ready to get bloody for the seat. This is not to say that bovada is that soft, the 25nl comparison to 5/10nl bovada can't be serious. Some of the regs on bovada are world class with lots of 2nd tier pros that would win in stars line up with a mark. It's just softer because there's higher odds of striking a punter on the table and I'm pretty sure me, Marshall, Markus or whoever that played poker to this level can win in healthy clip in any line up with just one punter.

also I think his price is fair and might even have more value depending on how you work. It even has have hidden value if you don't have big network of good players, you might be able to charm him and gain someone to discuss hands forever for couple buyins.

if ur already solving poker by mining hands and running sims, ur probably better off keep running the sims. just being brutally honest cuz I don't giv a fk

I have no idea what sort of enlightenment Marshall can inflict upon a person who has played thousands of hours of poker in just a few hours.

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I have to stop getting involved in this, it's such a massive waste of my time. So many of you guys have these preconceived notions that are completely uninformed and misguided. I think probably the truth is that you lie to yourselves in order to make yourselves feel better about your own station and not being able to win at the level that you wish that you could or for whatever shortcomings and insecurities you might have but don't like.

I'm not saying all of you guys are like this, but quite a few are. It makes a bit more sense to me now why I'm getting so much hate. Are more than half of you even playing poker professionally?
I'm not sure why you guys think you understand what's even going on at the bovada 5/10 tables, particularly since the times I post hands, half of you guys can't even tell if I'm bluffing or value betting.

I think that for a lot of you guys, if you don't do a lot of introspection and work on yourselves, you can expect to live very unsatisfying lives.

I'm going to minimize the amount I contribute from here on out, I'd like to be able to have a part in the community, but I think we just have too little in common.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

This is first intelligent thing you've said... Except you should read and apply this to YOURSELF. You have no idea what's going on, ever. Stop being so delusional, Peter.

All i really meant by that Marshall was that low stars games are tough because of the eastern Europeans who can live on nothing. There are some pretty solid players (not saying great) that grind 25/50 NL and cash out. They kill the low stakes games on stars from what I hear. Not saying they would be better than any 1k regs but just that if they table selected a bit they would find enough fish to maintain a positive winrate. I know some bumhunters personally who are quite a bit worse than me who have success bumhunting as high as games run on Bovada. Wasn't speaking on you Marshall just on the site and that we should avoid stuff like this

On September 30 2015 05:19 Spitfiree wrote: Is there a way for non americans to play on Bovada ?

So yea I guess I was trolling, 250/hr is a good price for your coaching especially compared to the scamming fish on 2+2 who charge the same or more and don't win anywhere

Lurped why u so crazy harsh; I understand fleshing out any coach but you're taking it a bit far bud. You don't even post here anymore do you? Marshall at least makes positive contributions so not sure what credentials you have to be shitting on him (care less about screenshots that could have any filters on them I.e. the 30k sample you posted)

lurped is a legend, don't spoil the fun

Hey Andrew, how did you use to run sims, and what did you specifically do with the hands you datamined??