On July 04 2015 22:11 PuertoRican wrote:
Props are up on BM for the two title fights. I have Lawler KO/TKO/DQ +500 for 1 unit. Gonna lay a big bet on his money line, just trying to figure out how the line will move. Both guys always look the same during the weigh-ins, so no new information will be gained from seeing them on the scale.
You think Lawler wins????
That worries me, I'm picking Rory to win this one, I felt he didn't fight nearly as well as he could have in their first, almost like he was caught off guard as to how good Robbie was, but feel he will be a lot more prepared this time around
The first thing you have to ask yourself is, do you think Rory will finish Robbie. I don't think he will.
Next, you have to remember this is a 5-round fight, and if you don't think Rory will finish Robbie, then the 5-round fight automatically favors the champion who has went 5 rounds in 3 of his last 4 fights.
Rory can win, but I don't think his jab-heavy attacking style will cause a problem for Robbie for 5 rounds, especially since he should be prepared to face a ton of jabs and eventual take down attempts. If Robbie gets taken down, I expect him to get right back up like last time. Also, Robbie's TDD has improved enough since their first fight.
I agree with you on all accounts, but I see Rory fighting alot smarter than Hendricks did, as well as not gassing out like Hendricks did in round 4 and round 5 where he basically gave the rounds away.
Anyways going to be nervous during that fight lol.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2015 02:18. Posts 13051
On July 07 2015 01:02 soberstone wrote:
Yah, media was split on the fight so I suppose I shouldn't say 'screwed', but I scored it for Melendez.
Anyway, I liked Iaquinta as well as a dog in that fight, I wonder who they'll match him up against if anyone. Is Alvarez on call? I'd love that fight.
Cerrone sent out a Tweet that he wanted to take the short notice fight against Iaquinta.
Also, Melendez is banned from MMA for 1 year due to the failed drug test.
On July 04 2015 22:11 PuertoRican wrote:
Props are up on BM for the two title fights. I have Lawler KO/TKO/DQ +500 for 1 unit. Gonna lay a big bet on his money line, just trying to figure out how the line will move. Both guys always look the same during the weigh-ins, so no new information will be gained from seeing them on the scale.
You think Lawler wins????
That worries me, I'm picking Rory to win this one, I felt he didn't fight nearly as well as he could have in their first, almost like he was caught off guard as to how good Robbie was, but feel he will be a lot more prepared this time around
The first thing you have to ask yourself is, do you think Rory will finish Robbie. I don't think he will.
Next, you have to remember this is a 5-round fight, and if you don't think Rory will finish Robbie, then the 5-round fight automatically favors the champion who has went 5 rounds in 3 of his last 4 fights.
Rory can win, but I don't think his jab-heavy attacking style will cause a problem for Robbie for 5 rounds, especially since he should be prepared to face a ton of jabs and eventual take down attempts. If Robbie gets taken down, I expect him to get right back up like last time. Also, Robbie's TDD has improved enough since their first fight.
I agree with you on all accounts, but I see Rory fighting alot smarter than Hendricks did, as well as not gassing out like Hendricks did in round 4 and round 5 where he basically gave the rounds away.
Anyways going to be nervous during that fight lol.
Rory fighting smarter than Hendricks is a definite possibility, however, you can't just say "you see" or "I expect" Rory to not gas in a 5-round fight, because he's never fought 5 rounds before.
Not you in particular but, anyone who says that Rory has the better cardio, or that they think Rory will take over in the championship rounds is lying. As of right now, we have no idea how Rory will do over the course of 25 minutes, especially if he isn't able to set the pace of the fight with his jab and take downs. If it's a striking battle for 90% of the fight, Rory will get out-worked imo.
PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2015 22:42. Posts 13051
Dana White: Conor McGregor offered to bet us $3 million he'd knock out Chad Mendes
Dana White said on Tuesday's Jim Rome Show that McGregor has predicted he'll knock Mendes out in the second round. And he was willing to bet White and UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta $3 million that this would be the case.
"You want to know how confident this kid is?" White asked. "I can't even believe I'm going to say this, but, he told Lorenzo and I the other day ‘I'll bet you $3 million I knock him out in the second round.'"
The UFC boss isn't likely to take McGregor up on the proposition, given their promoter/fighter relationship. But to White, it underscores the charisma which has made McGregor a breakthrough star.
"I like to bet, I don't know if I'm that willing to take that bet," White said. "When I tell you how extremely confident this guy is in himself, it's fascinating. He is a very unique, fascinating person to listen to. Fun to listen to, and fun to watch."
Remember when Aldo hit Mendes with a combo at the end of round 1 in their 2nd fight and chad was out of it if he wasn't saved by the bell, we'll Mcgregor is a lot bigger than chad I expect to see him make it rain on Mendes with those 1-2 combos. This a Joanna vs Carla fight version 2.0
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2015 23:43. Posts 13051
On July 07 2015 22:22 jvilla777 wrote:
Remember when Aldo hit Mendes with a combo at the end of round 1 in their 2nd fight and chad was out of it if he wasn't saved by the bell, we'll Mcgregor is a lot bigger than chad I expect to see him make it rain on Mendes with those 1-2 combos. This a Joanna vs Carla fight version 2.0
McGregor can beat Mendes, but your comparison of McGregor/Mendes and Joanna/Carla is laughable.
It's clear that you're a fanboy, but settle down a bit, will ya?
Rekrul is a newb
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2015 23:48. Posts 7499
On July 07 2015 21:42 PuertoRican wrote: Dana White: Conor McGregor offered to bet us $3 million he'd knock out Chad Mendes
Dana White said on Tuesday's Jim Rome Show that McGregor has predicted he'll knock Mendes out in the second round. And he was willing to bet White and UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta $3 million that this would be the case.
"You want to know how confident this kid is?" White asked. "I can't even believe I'm going to say this, but, he told Lorenzo and I the other day ‘I'll bet you $3 million I knock him out in the second round.'"
The UFC boss isn't likely to take McGregor up on the proposition, given their promoter/fighter relationship. But to White, it underscores the charisma which has made McGregor a breakthrough star.
"I like to bet, I don't know if I'm that willing to take that bet," White said. "When I tell you how extremely confident this guy is in himself, it's fascinating. He is a very unique, fascinating person to listen to. Fun to listen to, and fun to watch."
lol wolf tickets. dana is just the worst. less credibility than don king at this point.
Conor already looking like aids 5 days before the weigh ins. he's at the age where he is growing so the cut must be getting tougher and tougher. hope he makes the weight ok and doesn't pass out or some shit. gotta think it'll effect him if it ends up being a grueling fight.
Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete
On July 07 2015 22:22 jvilla777 wrote:
Remember when Aldo hit Mendes with a combo at the end of round 1 in their 2nd fight and chad was out of it if he wasn't saved by the bell, we'll Mcgregor is a lot bigger than chad I expect to see him make it rain on Mendes with those 1-2 combos. This a Joanna vs Carla fight version 2.0
McGregor can beat Mendes, but your comparison of McGregor/Mendes and Joanna/Carla is laughable.
It's clear that you're a fanboy, but settle down a bit, will ya?
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2015 01:17. Posts 13051
Rekrul is a newb
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soberstone   United States. Jul 08 2015 01:24. Posts 2662
IMO there is no fight that one can say with assurance is directly comparable in a applicable way to Mendes v McGregor.
There are too many unknown variables and they are both too unique already.
That's what makes this fight special, among a million other things. The amount the UFC stands to gain/lose from their desired outcome is almost assuredly in the hundreds of millions when you consider the future possibilities with Conor as a transcendent figure who both draws PPV's and brings in a mainstream contingent.
I'm NOT a Conor nut-hugger (his personality has already grown old on me TBH) but I AM a fan for 2 reasons:
A) He is MMA's best chance to become more popular and that benefits fans, and the fighters prospects of making real money
B) Who doesn't want to witness greatness? His striking ability is truly amazing to watch and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, he has the potential to be one of the GOATS. I truly believe that. I also know and recognize that there is a large chance that he isn't actually that guy and he gets beaten badly by the Elite and isn't better than a very good MMA fighter, but how is that any fun? You gotta keep raising the bar. As good as Mendes, Aldo, Edgar are, their levels of greatness are known commodities. I just think if you fail to recognize how good this guy MIGHT be, you are robbing yourself of an added layer to this fight.
On July 08 2015 00:24 soberstone wrote:
IMO there is no fight that one can say with assurance is directly comparable in a applicable way to Mendes v McGregor.
There are too many unknown variables and they are both too unique already.
That's what makes this fight special, among a million other things. The amount the UFC stands to gain/lose from their desired outcome is almost assuredly in the hundreds of millions when you consider the future possibilities with Conor as a transcendent figure who both draws PPV's and brings in a mainstream contingent.
I'm NOT a Conor nut-hugger (his personality has already grown old on me TBH) but I AM a fan for 2 reasons:
A) He is MMA's best chance to become more popular and that benefits fans, and the fighters prospects of making real money
B) Who doesn't want to witness greatness? His striking ability is truly amazing to watch and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, he has the potential to be one of the GOATS. I truly believe that. I also know and recognize that there is a large chance that he isn't actually that guy and he gets beaten badly by the Elite and isn't better than a very good MMA fighter, but how is that any fun? You gotta keep raising the bar. As good as Mendes, Aldo, Edgar are, their levels of greatness are known commodities. I just think if you fail to recognize how good this guy MIGHT be, you are robbing yourself of an added layer to this fight.
This.
And plus I like all beefs in fights, I hate seeing all this "I'm friends with him and well fight it's just competition and constant hand shaking and hugging during weigh ins and during the fight" I like seeing fights with some real emotions and Conor IMO makes it much more entertaining in every way
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2015 07:40. Posts 13051
On July 08 2015 00:24 soberstone wrote:
IMO there is no fight that one can say with assurance is directly comparable in a applicable way to Mendes v McGregor.
There are too many unknown variables and they are both too unique already.
That's what makes this fight special, among a million other things. The amount the UFC stands to gain/lose from their desired outcome is almost assuredly in the hundreds of millions when you consider the future possibilities with Conor as a transcendent figure who both draws PPV's and brings in a mainstream contingent.
I'm NOT a Conor nut-hugger (his personality has already grown old on me TBH) but I AM a fan for 2 reasons:
A) He is MMA's best chance to become more popular and that benefits fans, and the fighters prospects of making real money
B) Who doesn't want to witness greatness? His striking ability is truly amazing to watch and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, he has the potential to be one of the GOATS. I truly believe that. I also know and recognize that there is a large chance that he isn't actually that guy and he gets beaten badly by the Elite and isn't better than a very good MMA fighter, but how is that any fun? You gotta keep raising the bar. As good as Mendes, Aldo, Edgar are, their levels of greatness are known commodities. I just think if you fail to recognize how good this guy MIGHT be, you are robbing yourself of an added layer to this fight.
I don't particularly think any one superstar helps fighters make more money. The UFC treats their stars well and the rest like shit.
You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo
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drone666   Brasil. Jul 08 2015 12:45. Posts 1821
Dont listen to anything I say
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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2015 23:15. Posts 13051