Toronto in 5 (John wall exposed as fraud, one of the worst shooters in the league, Will get a lot of open shots due to sagging off, will shoot <40% in the series).
Spurs/Clips in 7, dno this series is super close. Spurs seem to have more hype, NBA will prob rig it so Spurs win. Esp since spurs / warriors WCF = $$$$$$$
Houston > Dallas in 5, Rondo exposed as worst shooter in the NBA. Blame loss on him.
Rest of series are not so interesting.
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i think Toronto/Wash seems like the closest series, slightly leaning Toronto so i'll say Raptors in 7.
most looking forward to SA/LAC series. kind of feel like Spurs take it in 6 semi-comfortably though.
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 17 2015 23:26. Posts 10197
From a betting perspective, I don't really like any of the prices on the series lines
MIL at +500 to beat the Bulls seems reasonable I guess...
I was thinking the Grizz at -180 vs the Blazers was probably pretty good but I hesitated on betting it because of all the injury concerns with Grizz and thinking I was probably a bit too biased towards them in the first place. That line is now at MEM -230.
I guess I would also say Mavs at +220 vs the Rockets is decent. I don't know who the hell will guard Harden but I think you can kind of trust Carlisle to come up with a good game plan and way to beat the Rockets, plus DMO and Beverly being out really hurt Houston's chances I think.
My predictions:
West ~
1. GSW vs 8. NO - GSW sweeps
4. POR vs 5. MEM - MEM in 6
3. LAC vs 6. SA - SA in 7
2. HOU vs 7. DAL - DAL in 7
East ~
1. ATL vs 8. BKN - ATL sweeps
4. TOR vs 5. WAS - TOR in 6
3. CHI vs 6. MIL - CHI in 7
2. CLE vs 7. BOS - CLE in 5
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^^ I dont see how MIL goes 7, they would be lucky to win 2, prob lose in 5. Chicago is 100% healthy, they are v v good when everyone is healthy, gibson / rose are huge for them
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I think you overestimate lol carter williams, dude is awful, bulls gonna annihilate them in game one
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man the nba was going to be this epic playoff when the season started then some guys got clipped with injuries. still going to be wherever LeBron is vs the playoff spurs for the final I think
Dallas is the toughest team to predict for me, seems like they could win in 6 or get swept. Parsons still questionable for game 1...he said he was hoping to get some minutes in during the last couple of regular season games and he never did. i'm assuming he'll play all the playoff games, just wondering if the knee is healing slower than expected. Ellis has been inconsistent and playing hurt, i think he'll be ok though. Rondo looked like he was going to be AIDS after the trade but lately he seems to be integrating into their offense a little better. Dirk isn't Dirk anymore, but there's always the hope he steps it up for the playoffs. Chandler looking great though, should be a good matchup fighting Dwight. just overall seems like a lot of variance in how that group could end up playing.
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sniderstyle   United States. Apr 18 2015 09:24. Posts 2046
I think Spurs will win it all without too much of a problem.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 18 2015 09:51. Posts 4080
portland over memphis
rest are tough to call (aside from the obvious monster favorites)
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Apr 18 2015 14:45. Posts 1585
poor clippers. I think they would have gotten far. Dunno if they can beat spurs though
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sniderstyle   United States. Apr 18 2015 16:06. Posts 2046
I just think Popovich really doesn't care too much about the regular season because it's too long and his guys are old. So he's wwilling to sit all hsi starters even when they are healthy. His whole goal was to keep his guys rested/healthy during the regular season...just squeeze into the playoffs and pick their ideal first round opponent. If they wanted the one seed they could have had it.
They are prime. They have a full team. Last year they won by almost 20 almost every game. They have teh same team. Kawhi Leonard is just getting better.
GSW is a mirage , IMo
Cleveland has a chance because of the Lebron factor
Spurs are the Godly Zen team
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 18 2015 16:19. Posts 10197
On April 18 2015 01:51 TalentedTom wrote:
^^ I dont see how MIL goes 7, they would be lucky to win 2, prob lose in 5. Chicago is 100% healthy, they are v v good when everyone is healthy, gibson / rose are huge for them
Yeah, you're probably right about that. The Bulls have just been so dysfunctional lately and Rose coming back might actually hurt them ironically. I mean ffs there have already been reports out that their coaching is starting to look for a new job. I guess I was just saying at +500 (edit: +600 now), seems like MIL could win enough for that price to be worth it
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 18 2015 18:53. Posts 10197
On April 18 2015 08:51 RaiNKhAN wrote:
portland over memphis
rest are tough to call (aside from the obvious monster favorites)
you're outta control
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 18 2015 20:30. Posts 4080
cant believe i had a chance of losing that under. good god
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 18 2015 21:21. Posts 10197
Da truth tho
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On April 18 2015 15:06 sniderstyle wrote:
I just think Popovich really doesn't care too much about the regular season because it's too long and his guys are old. So he's wwilling to sit all hsi starters even when they are healthy. His whole goal was to keep his guys rested/healthy during the regular season...just squeeze into the playoffs and pick their ideal first round opponent. If they wanted the one seed they could have had it.
They are prime. They have a full team. Last year they won by almost 20 almost every game. They have teh same team. Kawhi Leonard is just getting better.
GSW is a mirage , IMo
Cleveland has a chance because of the Lebron factor
Spurs are the Godly Zen team
Vegas is already giving the Spurs credit for those things when they give them 4-1 odds to win the title (behind Warriors/Cavs but significantly ahead of everyone else), which i assume is the best odds a team without homecourt in the 1st round has ever had. it wouldn't be surprising if the Spurs won again this year, but they have a tougher road than last year - this year's Warriors are better than any team they faced in the west last year, and the Cavs are better than last year's Heat. there's also a legitimate chance Pop gets out-coached for the first time in his life. nobody is winning this year without much of a problem.
god just the sight of joey crawford sends me on tilt
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 19 2015 10:14. Posts 10197
If D Rose continues to look like that throughout the playoffs, there is no doubt in my mind they can beat the Cavs
That was so enjoyable to watch
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Bulls staying healthy is like trying to win 4 flips in a row
It could happen.. but I wouldn't bet on it
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first game of Spurs/Clips didn't disappoint, so pumped for this series. too bad Doc needs to run his starters into the ground to have a chance, CP3 gonna be on life support by the end of series.
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 20 2015 07:49. Posts 10468
Bought the clips to win the series at +160 and took them as a pick em in game 1. To me paul deandre and griffin are like 3 decent maxes with some dysfunctional kinda bad pieces around them but serviceable enough to all in all outskill/out talent spurs
i'm still kind of leaning Spurs, but it's def close and wouldn't be surprised at all to see Clippers take it. SA needs Parker to be playoff Parker and Green to get out of his slump. and maybe Splitter or Baynes to lay Griffin out a couple times :S
will be interesting to see what Pop has Leonard doing defensively next game.
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 21 2015 09:17. Posts 10197
On April 21 2015 07:18 bigredhoss wrote:
i'm still kind of leaning Spurs, but it's def close and wouldn't be surprised at all to see Clippers take it. SA needs Parker to be playoff Parker and Green to get out of his slump. and maybe Splitter or Baynes to lay Griffin out a couple times :S
will be interesting to see what Pop has Leonard doing defensively next game.
i really hope he puts him on Blake
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 21 2015 09:35. Posts 4080
anyone but banes. that guy is mozgov 2.0
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Clippers starting 5 are among the best +- in the league (I think they are #1) they just have a terrible bench. If you watched game 1 this showed, once the clippers started sat down SA cut the 12 point lead in in like 3 min. Seems like
CP3 >>>> parker,
Blake > Duncan,
Deandre > any spurs big,
Leonard >>> anyone hes up against,
Reddick = Green.
Spurs bench >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clippers bench.
If spurs can breakeven vs the clippers starting unit, they prob win the game a huge % of the time
CP3 is an animal, so under-rated. Playoff Cp3 is just ridicilous. That being said they cant beat GSW with their awful bench production. They would prob need to play their starters 42+ MPG.
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i think they'll need 42+ mpg vs Spurs too. i know CP3 had slightly less in game 1 but a lot of things went right for the Clippers that game. Spurs shot poorly and just missed a bunch of shots they normally make. Blake and CP3 played about as well as they've ever played. i think they'll continue to play well, i'm just not sure they'll be quite that good every game of the series. Spurs don't really have a good answer for Blake, but it would be fun to watch Kawhi try like TimDawg mentioned. and Crawford was on fire, but he's mostly been inconsistent in the playoffs during his career.
kinda depends too on how Parker's ankle is after twisting it in game 1. i know he's old, but he definitely wasn't himself after that happened. which is kinda big since imo part of CP3's big game can be attributed to not having to expend as much energy guarding him (and defensively Spurs can just throw Parker on Redick/Barnes or something and have Kawhi worry about CP3 if they want).
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Daut   United States. Apr 21 2015 17:22. Posts 8955
thought pop did an awful job coaching game 1.
-i would run hack a deandre the entire time my team was in the bonus. patty mills, jeff ayres and matt bonnar? we gonna need all 6 of your fouls guys.
-parker is hobbling around and still played 29 minutes. would have had cory joseph in right away.
-having the said hobbled parker guard cp3 is silly. put kawhi or green on him. sure he might blow by them but he will have a lot more trouble doing what he did.
the clippers match up well vs the spurs. theres just no big who can stop blake. the only possibility is to maybe do something crazy like have splitter on deandre, kawhi on blake, duncan on barnes, cory joseph on redick and green on cp3
i would also be fouling blake hard the entire series until he is mentally taken out of it. have baynes tackle him a few times and hes gonna curl up into a ball and take mid range shots only.
its not like doc has many bench options, but id basically play cp3, blake, deandre, redick, barnes, 38 minutes each, play crawford 30, and find 12 minutes for a few scrubs to fill in while there are other starters out there. doc has no clue how to stagger rotations
all of that said, the spurs shot like total shit and were still somewhat in the game. think the series is still about a flip
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Daut   United States. Apr 21 2015 17:26. Posts 8955
as for other playoff stuff:
-memphis should be about -1500 vs portland. portland is close to stone dead, wants no part of grizz physicality and POR has the worst defensive backcourt ever. lillard and mccollum are like swiss cheese, beno udrih is lighting them up. LMA is amazing and completely matchup proof, but the man cant take 35 shots a game and carry your whole team
-GSW is gonna steamroll through the playoffs. took them at +200 to +220 before playoffs started. think theyre close to 50% to win it all
-its funny how some teams just own or match up extremely well with other teams. for instance GSW >>>>> MEM. but MEM >>>>> LAC. but GSW only slightly > LAC. and GSW > HOU, but SAS >>>>> HOU. really strange. will be some fun matchups in semis and finals.
-and nobody gives a shit about the east.
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On April 21 2015 16:26 Daut wrote:
-GSW is gonna steamroll through the playoffs. took them at +200 to +220 before playoffs started. think theyre close to 50% to win it all
from what i've read though his track record in sports is much shakier than in politics, partly because he was one of the first smart people to use statistical analysis on elections, while there have been a lot of very smart people applying statistical analysis to the major sports for a long time before he came along, so i thought there was a decent chance Vegas was still sharper than him.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 22 2015 09:02. Posts 4080
On April 21 2015 16:26 Daut wrote:
-GSW is gonna steamroll through the playoffs. took them at +200 to +220 before playoffs started. think theyre close to 50% to win it all
from what i've read though his track record in sports is much shakier than in politics, partly because he was one of the first smart people to use statistical analysis on elections, while there have been a lot of very smart people applying statistical analysis to the major sports for a long time before he came along, so i thought there was a decent chance Vegas was still sharper than him.
nate silvers only verifiable sharpness was during those election prop betting lines that he wrote about. other than that his sports betting picks have been str8 gutterball
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yea i came to the same conclusion, was just saying my past thought process out loud i guess. part of me still thinks Warriors are underpriced (prob not nearly as much as his model suggests) but i'm not betting them so w/e.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 24 2015 06:33. Posts 4080
CURRY
WE ARE NOT WORTHY
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flounder44   United States. Apr 25 2015 02:23. Posts 916
^ West Coast > Rest of the world
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 25 2015 05:43. Posts 10197
CHEF CURRY WIT DA POT BOI
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i guess when CP3 is acting like a bitch Spurs have no choice but to bitch-slap him
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soberstone   United States. Apr 25 2015 22:36. Posts 2662
Good to see the Clippers losing again.
Senile Sterling says some racist shit in private to some whore who illegally records and leaks it and somehow is forced to sell his own property. Than Steve Balmer comes in and acts like a fucking lunatic all the time. Meanwhile, the team is still full of front-runners and an over-rated coach, just getting exposed by Popavich the boss and the good old Spurs.
Go Rockets, I think they have what it takes to beat the Spurs in a battle of who's gonna lose to the Warriors.
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...
Kinda hard to root for a player when he wears a skirt
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soberstone   United States. Apr 28 2015 02:14. Posts 2662
Damn, Houston rly needs to win Game 5 or it's gonna get ugly because Howard and Harden aren't exactly proven commodities under mounting pressure. Dirk and them on the other hand....
Howard is kinda proven, took the magic to the finals by himself. Harden has been known to dissapear in big moments.
On another note, Atlanta Frauds lose 2 in a row.
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 28 2015 06:14. Posts 10468
On April 25 2015 21:36 soberstone wrote:
Good to see the Clippers losing again.
Senile Sterling says some racist shit in private to some whore who illegally records and leaks it and somehow is forced to sell his own property. Than Steve Balmer comes in and acts like a fucking lunatic all the time. Meanwhile, the team is still full of front-runners and an over-rated coach, just getting exposed by Popavich the boss and the good old Spurs.
Go Rockets, I think they have what it takes to beat the Spurs in a battle of who's gonna lose to the Warriors.
Warriors > Cleveland in 6.
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 28 2015 06:21. Posts 10468
Nice game from Portland tonight and Lillard.
Hope they go 7 for the dubs sake
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 28 2015 06:21. Posts 4080
could conley being out be what portland needs to pull this series out from down 0-3? I think so
no chance griz shoot this well in any of the future games
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well griz are a tough matchup for any PG (at least when Conley's healthy) so yeah i realize he's going to look worse vs them. he might look sick vs 80 year old Jason Terry or emo-Rondo, and he could play bad vs say, the Warriors, but still put up big #s because of the pace they play at.
i still think he's overrated though, he's kind of the face of their franchise despite Aldridge clearly being a better player. i mean for guards, he got more all-star votes than RWB/Thompson/Conley, to me that seems like he's overrated.
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 29 2015 01:55. Posts 10197
On April 28 2015 05:21 RaiNKhAN wrote:
could conley being out be what portland needs to pull this series out from down 0-3? I think so
no chance griz shoot this well in any of the future games
no chance imo
their backup PG play is pretty strong (Grizz) and Calathes did a solid job on Lillard; he just hit all the contested long 2's and 3's that he missed in the first 2 games. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see MEM win by 10+ at home next game
obviously Conley being out is a huge blow however and I have a really hard time seeing them having a chance vs GSW without him. from what I understand, the facial (orbital) fracture is not as terribly seroius as it sounds and he could in fact be ready game 1 in 2nd round (sounds insane, I know)
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 29 2015 01:59. Posts 10197
On April 28 2015 09:49 bigredhoss wrote:
well griz are a tough matchup for any PG (at least when Conley's healthy) so yeah i realize he's going to look worse vs them. he might look sick vs 80 year old Jason Terry or emo-Rondo, and he could play bad vs say, the Warriors, but still put up big #s because of the pace they play at.
i still think he's overrated though, he's kind of the face of their franchise despite Aldridge clearly being a better player. i mean for guards, he got more all-star votes than RWB/Thompson/Conley, to me that seems like he's overrated.
I'm also starting to buy into Lillard being overrated
He's extremely talented offensively but from what I've watched of him, he seems to have a Rudy Gay/Josh Smith-esqe shot selection. He also has really been exposed as a terrible defender this year, which was kind've hidden by awesome Wes Matthews was on the defensive side of the ball
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 29 2015 09:06. Posts 10197
so amazing to watch Tim Duncan just rip Blake Griffin's soul out on that final possession when he blocked him
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I feel so bad for the clippers, it's too bad they have to go out first round (although from a fan prespective, this is the best first round series in a while), the NBA seeding system needs to be updated, Portland should not have been #4, the larger the league gets the less divisions matter, get rid of that prehistoric crap.
It's kinda funny to see the rotations ; Minutes played. Doc has his son and an overweight washout coming off the becch vs the world champs
Clips starters are just to worn out at the end due to their awful bench
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 29 2015 20:48. Posts 10197
Doc's son is terrible
Big Baby is more deserving of being in the league than him (and that's saying A LOT)
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 29 2015 23:28. Posts 4080
glen big baby doofus LOL. crowd went so wild when he made a fade away jumper and then on the other end of the court grabbed a board LOL
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 30 2015 02:40. Posts 10197
On April 29 2015 22:28 RaiNKhAN wrote:
glen big baby doofus LOL. crowd went so wild when he made a fade away jumper and then on the other end of the court grabbed a board LOL
that alone is super impressive for a guy that is 350lbs+ and gaining probably an extra pound per day
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 30 2015 02:41. Posts 10197
Grizz gonna hulk smash tonight btw
I've got a small bet on them @ -5.5
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TimDawg   United States. Apr 30 2015 05:40. Posts 10197
On April 30 2015 01:41 TimDawg wrote:
Grizz gonna hulk smash tonight btw
I've got a small bet on them @ -5.5
covered by 0.5
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They can prob still win the east, but have no chance vs whoever comes out of the west
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 02 2015 15:32. Posts 20070
I have no idea what Washington vs Atlanta will be like
Without Conley GSW may sweep Memphis
Clippers > Houston (yes)
Cleveland > Chicago in 6, gonna be a MASSIVE series for Kyrie, the bulls point guards cant defend. They made MCW look like a star
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Minsk   United States. May 02 2015 16:16. Posts 1558
Atlanta will murder Washington.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 02 2015 19:24. Posts 8648
Parker should just sit this one out and go watch Pacquiao/Mayweather, Spurs probably better off.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 03 2015 03:48. Posts 8648
holy shit what a game, happy for CP3.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 03 2015 05:56. Posts 20070
CP3 is a beast, ridic last play. Real winner was the GSW, now they have no contest
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 03 2015 06:32. Posts 4080
wow glen davis went 3/5 from the field
the world is coming to an end
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. May 03 2015 07:58. Posts 1585
On April 18 2015 13:45 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
poor clippers. I think they would have gotten far. Dunno if they can beat spurs though
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 04 2015 17:23. Posts 8648
looking at the series prices i'm a little surprised Houston is a bigger favorite over LAC than Cleveland is over Chicago.
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iakim322   United States. May 04 2015 19:27. Posts 1335
Houston matches up with Blake on defense better than the Spurs do. Also, there could be something to be said about the mental drain that kind of series (seemed like it was a 1 or 2 possession game for like 3/4th of the entire minutes played) has on a team. That kind of armchair psychology could go both ways though I guess and the narrative could be that it only made them stronger since they finally toppled the Spurs who CP3 and Blake have openly made their goal to beat.
I like Chicago's chances in the Cleveland series. Cleveland's roster/bigs can't handle Pau if he's playing well. And Rose will have his chances since Lebron will be pretty busy with Butler even if Lebron will always get his on the offensive end. Bottle up Kyrie from blowing up a cpl 30+ pt games and Lebron's face might contort back into some of those last Cleveland stint woe-is-me faces.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 04 2015 21:18. Posts 8648
oh i definitely agree with all your points, i was still a little surprised at the odds though. well maybe less surprised now that it seems CP3 probably won't play game 1 (i think he's listed as questionable, but the line movement for game 1 seems to indicate he's unlikely to play).
i was actually hoping to bet on Chicago to win the series vs Cleveland, but i expected to be able to get better than +180 (Bovada), don't think there's any value at that price.
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soberstone   United States. May 04 2015 23:03. Posts 2662
Well, I just came on to eat crow about the Clippers. They got it done.
I hope Houston beats'em and think they will, but it'll probably go 6 or 7.
Parlaying the favorites tonight (Cleveland, Houston) to win SU. Probably bad bet but it makes it fun :D
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 05 2015 02:53. Posts 20070
lol @ austin rivers starting in a playoff game
lol clippers
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 05 2015 02:55. Posts 4080
austin rivers might drop 70 tonight
glen big baby doofus sighting possible as well
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soberstone   United States. May 05 2015 04:16. Posts 2662
Rockets playing like dogshit keeping them in it. But yah Rivers is bad.
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soberstone   United States. May 05 2015 05:21. Posts 2662
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traxamillion   United States. May 05 2015 06:02. Posts 10468
Hit big on a prop. Griffin over 24.5 points. Bricked him over 33.5 at +650 tho.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 05 2015 06:05. Posts 8648
Shaq was my favorite athlete growing up, over the past few years it's really been kind of disheartening to learn he's a complete fucking idiot.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 05 2015 13:41. Posts 20070
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 05 2015 13:44. Posts 20070
dat starting lineup. It's pretty friggin obvious that doc is playing his son because... hes his son. Austin should not be in NBA, despite playing with a low level d-leaguer clippers still won.. Blake is a beast.
If they keep allowng josh smith to shoot 3's, this series is not gonna go well. I didn't think clippers had a chance w/o Paul, blake just put the team on his back and lebronned them to the win.
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Minsk   United States. May 05 2015 17:28. Posts 1558
Kind of incredible that a team of 6 people has got this far.
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iakim322   United States. May 05 2015 20:08. Posts 1335
On May 05 2015 05:05 bigredhoss wrote:
Shaq was my favorite athlete growing up, over the past few years it's really been kind of disheartening to learn he's a complete fucking idiot.
This is really a shock? At least Shaq can be entertaining in spots. Guy I could do without ever hearing talk again is Kenny Smith. That guy would be the biggest race baiter if they kept allowing him to talk about non-basketball stuff. Could be debatable if that's better anyways since his basketball analysis is terrible
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iakim322   United States. May 05 2015 20:14. Posts 1335
Blake was pretty amazing. There were some pretty funny moments where Austin Rivers, the point guard...if you can call him that...gave up the ball like a hot potato to Blake to facilitate the play. And yet anyone rooting at all for the Clippers must've cheered when they saw the PG give up the ball to the PF at the reset of a play then run away from the ball.
Also bit of a reflection of a team led by Harden, Howard, and Josh Smith. That team had a ton of time to rest and be prepared yet came out and played like it was game 5 of the regular season against the Knicks or something.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 05 2015 21:06. Posts 8648
On May 05 2015 05:05 bigredhoss wrote:
Shaq was my favorite athlete growing up, over the past few years it's really been kind of disheartening to learn he's a complete fucking idiot.
This is really a shock? At least Shaq can be entertaining in spots. Guy I could do without ever hearing talk again is Kenny Smith. That guy would be the biggest race baiter if they kept allowing him to talk about non-basketball stuff. Could be debatable if that's better anyways since his basketball analysis is terrible
i mean, i was 6-7 or something when i became a fan and my 'ideal' of him began, sports media was way different then and i just watched games/sportscenter highlights, his level of intelligence was not something i even thought about.
they're all terrible in terms of basketball analysis but they can still be enjoyable to watch. i mean they all agreed that the Cavs need to start Kendrick Perkins against the Bulls, lol. i don't know what the race-baiting thing is referring to, but Kenny is easily the smartest out of him/Shaq/Chuck and if it were somehow realistic i would bet unlimited dollars on him in an IQ test vs the other two (no that's not saying much). chemistry between Chuck and Kenny is what makes the show (and Ernie).
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soberstone   United States. May 05 2015 23:12. Posts 2662
On May 05 2015 05:05 bigredhoss wrote:
Shaq was my favorite athlete growing up, over the past few years it's really been kind of disheartening to learn he's a complete fucking idiot.
This is really a shock? At least Shaq can be entertaining in spots. Guy I could do without ever hearing talk again is Kenny Smith. That guy would be the biggest race baiter if they kept allowing him to talk about non-basketball stuff. Could be debatable if that's better anyways since his basketball analysis is terrible
Fully agree.
Chuck says dumb things here and there as we all would as a result of speaking his mind without a political-correct filter on all the time, and isn't the most eloquent guy, but he is actually very wise and knowledgeable. On the other side of the coin, Kenny is more articulate but thinks he's much smarter than he is and is actually just your average media member drinking the race-problem koolade and contributing to a mentality of victimization and lack of personal responsibility that badly damages the black community in this country. Kenny Smith's socio-political talk is just a microcosm of the deep-rooted nonsense that we have going on as this ludicrous national dialogue narrative that makes it seem like we are still in the 50's pervades the daily news. His open letter to Chuck when the whole Ferguson bullshit was happening was absolutely disgraceful. Not to hi-jack and make this a political thread but I just want to fully co-sign what you are saying.
This coming from a Rocket's fan who owes 2 championships in small part to Kenny Smith.
GL with that garbage reality show you are putting out Kenny, I think you are about 5 years too late with that trash.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 05 2015 23:42. Posts 8648
i didn't even know any of them had commented on Ferguson or politics lol
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soberstone   United States. May 05 2015 23:48. Posts 2662
On May 05 2015 22:42 bigredhoss wrote:
i didn't even know any of them had commented on Ferguson or politics lol
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shaqs first year on TNT was so terrible. his spin off on shaqtin a fool saved him entirely. if anyone here knows what im talking about then you specifically remember countless awkward moments when he says something to be funny and everyone is silent, but when shaqtin a fool came on he was more in his element and would just laugh very loud at every single goof play and eventually he fit in the show.
i still remember his job being on thin ice during those times. its actually incredible that shaqtin a fool saved him cuz now since 2 years have passed u can see hes changed it up to where hes starting to give some analysis and fit in a bit. but still there are lots of awkward terrible moments where even ernie is urging him to stfu
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 06 2015 01:21. Posts 8648
yeah agree he's gotten a bit better with shaqtin a fool, still lots of awkwardness.
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TimDawg   United States. May 06 2015 02:46. Posts 10197
Conley playing tonight!
Let's go Grizz!!
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 06 2015 06:18. Posts 4080
CONLEY~!~! OHHHHHHHH YEAAAA
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 06 2015 17:30. Posts 8648
damn, did not see that one coming. grizz fighting~!
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 06 2015 18:16. Posts 20070
pretty close to a nut low game for the warriors in every way
they gonna crush game 3
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flounder44   United States. May 06 2015 22:13. Posts 916
i watched the whole warriors game yesterday just to see them lose T_T
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TimDawg   United States. May 06 2015 22:18. Posts 10197
On May 05 2015 05:02 traxamillion wrote:
I got warriors at 20:1 to win the championship before the season started. Can't wait till that comes in
OH YEAH?!
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 01:25. Posts 2662
Did my parlaying of Cavs/Rockets again tonight to throw away some more money. Off to a better start.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 07 2015 03:37. Posts 8648
best part of game is the farmersonly.com commercials
edit: and Blake Griffin is good at basketball
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 03:45. Posts 2662
Griffin just shitting on Harden's ego so hard.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 07 2015 03:48. Posts 20070
Harden is shitting on his own ego, Howard playing well
griffin playing out of his mind this playoffs. Chris paul should just until westen conference finals, then blake can tag him back in
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 03:56. Posts 2662
Wow. Someone. GIF what just happened to Shaq immediately please. I will get on the search. Wow. I died.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 07 2015 03:56. Posts 8648
take back everything i said about shaq, watching him fall down was A+ lol
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 07 2015 03:59. Posts 8648
On May 07 2015 02:48 TalentedTom wrote:
Harden is shitting on his own ego, Howard playing well
taco bell karma
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 04:01. Posts 2662
On May 07 2015 02:48 TalentedTom wrote:
Harden is shitting on his own ego, Howard playing well
griffin playing out of his mind this playoffs. Chris paul should just until westen conference finals, then blake can tag him back in
It pains me to agree so whole-hardheartedly. This is so painful as such a big Rocket fan and Clipper hater. But I don't respect what my guys are doing here. I spoke of Harden's history of not showing up, I think 'Lebron vs the Mavericks' Harden is showing up big time here.
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 04:01. Posts 2662
On May 07 2015 02:48 TalentedTom wrote:
Harden is shitting on his own ego, Howard playing well
taco bell karma
Harden is a playoff defector.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 07 2015 04:02. Posts 4080
On May 07 2015 02:56 bigredhoss wrote:
take back everything i said about shaq, watching him fall down was A+ lol
yeah thats his ace in the sleeve. always gets me too ahahah
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 04:46. Posts 2662
Well Harden going to the bench sure turned this game around. Maybe he can come up big in the 4th. Huge energy from Rockets bench.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 07 2015 05:01. Posts 20070
I find myself cheering for the clippers, that starting lineup has to work sooo hard. Kinda have to root for them.
If houston somehow wins the title this season, i prob quit watching NBA
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 05:17. Posts 2662
Griffin and Clippers gassing hard. Rockets got this. Thank God.
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 05:21. Posts 2662
I give Rocket's management such props though we always find these little Prigioni's who are just amazing role players. We got injuries too. Nothing like cp3. But this Clippers team has been incompetently been put together if they are really this shallow with only cp3 hurt.
Edit: Or Doc is mismanaging the use of his depth. Dunno which, but I haven't seen a bench as bad as the Clippers in quite some time.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 07 2015 05:21. Posts 4080
54 free throws ahahahhahahahahahhahahah
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soberstone   United States. May 07 2015 05:24. Posts 2662
Basically both teams exposing why neither are championship calibur.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. May 07 2015 05:35. Posts 4080
austin rivers u are the worst player ive ever seen. glen davis take a walk, this kid is worse than u
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 07 2015 05:36. Posts 8648
all the lols @ austin rivers
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 09 2015 02:04. Posts 8648
atrocious call on Rose instead of James
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 09 2015 02:10. Posts 20070
^^ disagree
I hate this setting a pick and falling down bullshit
The varience in calls on those types of plays are also very inconsistent, almost like they are randomly flipping a coin
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 09 2015 02:13. Posts 8648
i may have vested interests in that being called a charge
looked like a charge in real-time anyway
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soberstone   United States. May 09 2015 03:07. Posts 2662
Both teams spending so much energy on defense and rebounding, they don't like they have their legs under'em for shots
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 09 2015 03:45. Posts 8648
lol that was fucking awesome =D
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soberstone   United States. May 09 2015 03:56. Posts 2662
Damn Rose gg.
Rockets and Clippers game gon' be a good one I hope. Howard being a beast early to counter Griffin's savagery.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 09 2015 05:39. Posts 8648
Austin Rivers wtf is this real life
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Raid   United States. May 09 2015 20:46. Posts 318
Anyone taking Memphis +4 1/2 today or is that a Vegas trap?
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 09 2015 21:09. Posts 8648
not betting on the games tonight (aside from DFS) but you can get +5 on Grizz at Bovada and Heritage right now.
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soberstone   United States. May 10 2015 00:39. Posts 2662
Wow this Atlanta potential comeback is pretty nutty.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 10 2015 00:55. Posts 8648
yeah that was crazy, seems like a miracle Korver missed that 3.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 10 2015 02:13. Posts 8648
Marc Gasol. Best Gasol.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 10 2015 02:19. Posts 20070
wtf @ warriors, they seem reluctant to shoot 3's
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 10 2015 02:35. Posts 8648
yeah because Allen is wrecking their shit
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 10 2015 03:39. Posts 20070
refs trying to bring warriors back into the game, 11 foul calls in 8 min
refs fighting
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Raid   United States. May 10 2015 19:46. Posts 318
I know it's a must-win for the Cavs but that 3 free points for the Bulls at home looks very enticing.
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TimDawg   United States. May 10 2015 20:18. Posts 10197
On May 10 2015 01:19 TalentedTom wrote:
wtf @ warriors, they seem reluctant to shoot 3's
that would be because Tony Allen has been feasting on Steph Curry and Klay Thompsons' souls
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 10 2015 21:03. Posts 8648
it's pretty fun to see Rose using his athletic talent again.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 10 2015 23:10. Posts 20070
Sick last 20 sec of bulls cavs, really akward calls
D-Rose seems to be having an easy time getting to the rim vs the cleveland guards whenever he wants, good thing he settles for jumpers a lot, wont work on the road
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soberstone   United States. May 10 2015 23:15. Posts 2662
Lebron!
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 10 2015 23:19. Posts 20070
On May 10 2015 22:15 soberstone wrote:
LeGoat!
fixed
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 11 2015 02:53. Posts 8648
what a retarded game, go see a shrink Deandre.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 11 2015 03:06. Posts 20070
Deandre gonna shoot 50+ FT's omfg!
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 11 2015 03:06. Posts 20070
how are you a professional basketball player and shoot 10-28 free throws
I can take a year off and still shoot better then that
I sometimes wonder if some of these guys are born mentally retarded but physically they are lottery winners
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 11 2015 03:12. Posts 8648
On May 05 2015 05:05 bigredhoss wrote:
Shaq was my favorite athlete growing up, over the past few years it's really been kind of disheartening to learn he's a complete fucking idiot.
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Raid   United States. May 11 2015 21:30. Posts 318
Dare we go with Memphis +4 yet again? Am starting to feel like we've extracted max value out of the Grizzlies and now Steph Curry's gonna start to take it all back.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 11 2015 22:07. Posts 8648
i kind of like it, which probably means GSW wins by 27 tonight.
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TimDawg   United States. May 11 2015 22:17. Posts 10197
On May 11 2015 20:30 Raid wrote:
Dare we go with Memphis +4 yet again? Am starting to feel like we've extracted max value out of the Grizzlies and now Steph Curry's gonna start to take it all back.
same thing was said about G3...
I don't feel like there's a reasonable explanation that G4 will be any different than G2 or G3...I put a bet on Grizz +5 when it first came out
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 12 2015 03:44. Posts 20070
GSW beasting so far, bogut is such a great defender
Memphis needs to slow down, this is a really bad pace for them. Which is kinda contradictory to the situation, when your behind 17 logically you should speed up tempo and take more risks, however that would favor GSW style of play. Prob impossible to comeback from this
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 12 2015 03:54. Posts 8648
yeah good defensive adjustments from Kerr making it tougher for Randolph and Gasol to get going in the post, and basically ignoring Allen.
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soberstone   United States. May 12 2015 04:17. Posts 2662
On May 12 2015 02:44 TalentedTom wrote:
GSW beasting so far, bogut is such a great defender
Memphis needs to slow down, this is a really bad pace for them. Which is kinda contradictory to the situation, when your behind 17 logically you should speed up tempo and take more risks, however that would favor GSW style of play. Prob impossible to comeback from this
Yah, well by the time I'm typing this they are down by like 25, but I fully agree. They would have needed to chip it away to like 8-10 at their own pace and then try to make a run and have the crowd boost them and the Warriors choke at the end. Not happening now.
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TimDawg   United States. May 12 2015 06:14. Posts 10197
On May 12 2015 02:44 TalentedTom wrote:
GSW beasting so far, bogut is such a great defender
Memphis needs to slow down, this is a really bad pace for them. Which is kinda contradictory to the situation, when your behind 17 logically you should speed up tempo and take more risks, however that would favor GSW style of play. Prob impossible to comeback from this
i thought Bogut was the biggest difference in the game honestly
You expect Curry/Thompson to get hot sometimes but Bogut disrupted so much offensively for the Grizz. Kerr doubling ZBO and Gasol in the post was a great counter too
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Raid   United States. May 12 2015 08:17. Posts 318
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 12 2015 08:31. Posts 8648
i think most analysts agreed it was effective aside from the mouthbreathers who speak on television
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 12 2015 13:58. Posts 20070
On May 12 2015 07:17 Raid wrote:
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
Hes shooting 42% free throws in playoffs (42% career), which is the equivalent of 84 points per 100 posession (Philledelphia which ranks 30th and averages 93/100, lakers are 24th and average 101/100, just to add perspective (Off Def Rating).) Only reason it didnt work is because Houston could not score at a rate higher then this with the lineup they had on the floor. Clearly a very +EV strategy, in fact if you have an unlimited anoumt of fouls to give, you would foul him 100% of the time all game. Also another note, when Houston does this strategy, James harden should play all 48 min, since while jordan is shooting free throws, he dosnt have to waste energy on defence, its basically the equivalent of a timeout break every other posession.
If Golden state does this, they would prob crush the clips
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 12 2015 14:11. Posts 20070
It wouldn't work on Shaq (in the long run) since he was a career 53% FT shooter. Since the standard deviation on his FT is so high teams can gamble by fouling him when they are behind.
ALso note clippers have a net offensive rating of 110/100 (although this includes playing garbage feeder teams) Against better competition it's prob 105 or so, in either case foulding jordan reduces it by ~20 points per possesion, which is absolutely absurd with respect to EV
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soberstone   United States. May 12 2015 18:07. Posts 2662
On May 12 2015 07:17 Raid wrote:
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
Hes shooting 42% free throws in playoffs (42% career), which is the equivalent of 84 points per 100 posession (Philledelphia which ranks 30th and averages 93/100, lakers are 24th and average 101/100, just to add perspective (Off Def Rating).) Only reason it didnt work is because Houston could not score at a rate higher then this with the lineup they had on the floor. Clearly a very +EV strategy, in fact if you have an unlimited anoumt of fouls to give, you would foul him 100% of the time all game. Also another note, when Houston does this strategy, James harden should play all 48 min, since while jordan is shooting free throws, he dosnt have to waste energy on defence, its basically the equivalent of a timeout break every other posession.
If Golden state does this, they would prob crush the clips
Great breakdown, but the one thing I would say you are leaving out is that Houston's PP 100 possessions is also being reduced pretty drastically when they completely take away the transition game and let the Clippers, especially with D-Jordan, set-up their half-court defense. Nonetheless, especially on the road, it's clearly a good strategy.
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Raid   United States. May 12 2015 20:28. Posts 318
On May 12 2015 07:17 Raid wrote:
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
Hes shooting 42% free throws in playoffs (42% career), which is the equivalent of 84 points per 100 posession (Philledelphia which ranks 30th and averages 93/100, lakers are 24th and average 101/100, just to add perspective (Off Def Rating).) Only reason it didnt work is because Houston could not score at a rate higher then this with the lineup they had on the floor. Clearly a very +EV strategy, in fact if you have an unlimited anoumt of fouls to give, you would foul him 100% of the time all game. Also another note, when Houston does this strategy, James harden should play all 48 min, since while jordan is shooting free throws, he dosnt have to waste energy on defence, its basically the equivalent of a timeout break every other posession.
If Golden state does this, they would prob crush the clips
Great breakdown, but the one thing I would say you are leaving out is that Houston's PP 100 possessions is also being reduced pretty drastically when they completely take away the transition game and let the Clippers, especially with D-Jordan, set-up their half-court defense. Nonetheless, especially on the road, it's clearly a good strategy.
I've also seen the argument being made that by fouling Jordan so much so early, you are putting the Clippers into the bonus far too quickly, and they have 3 of the top 5 FT shooters in the NBA on their team.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 13 2015 01:57. Posts 8648
Gibson has to have the record for most missed dunks
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soberstone   United States. May 13 2015 02:07. Posts 2662
Well that was an interesting little entanglement between Delivedova and Gibson. Think they got that wrong, shoulda just been a double tech.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 13 2015 02:10. Posts 20070
^^ Yes, no transition points, you could also argue that since the clipper players do nothing on offence, they will have more energy for defence. I still don't see a way that they score at a lower rate then what deandre shoots, its just beyond terrible
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 13 2015 02:15. Posts 8648
On May 13 2015 01:07 soberstone wrote:
Well that was an interesting little entanglement between Delivedova and Gibson. Think they got that wrong, shoulda just been a double tech.
yeah flagrant 2 was kind of ridiculous imo
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 13 2015 02:33. Posts 20070
wow, the amount of 3's the bulls are hitting is getting ridic
Fail travel call -->> pass for a 3, game changing swing
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Daut   United States. May 13 2015 02:51. Posts 8955
On May 12 2015 07:17 Raid wrote:
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
Hes shooting 42% free throws in playoffs (42% career), which is the equivalent of 84 points per 100 posession (Philledelphia which ranks 30th and averages 93/100, lakers are 24th and average 101/100, just to add perspective (Off Def Rating).) Only reason it didnt work is because Houston could not score at a rate higher then this with the lineup they had on the floor. Clearly a very +EV strategy, in fact if you have an unlimited anoumt of fouls to give, you would foul him 100% of the time all game. Also another note, when Houston does this strategy, James harden should play all 48 min, since while jordan is shooting free throws, he dosnt have to waste energy on defence, its basically the equivalent of a timeout break every other posession.
If Golden state does this, they would prob crush the clips
Great breakdown, but the one thing I would say you are leaving out is that Houston's PP 100 possessions is also being reduced pretty drastically when they completely take away the transition game and let the Clippers, especially with D-Jordan, set-up their half-court defense. Nonetheless, especially on the road, it's clearly a good strategy.
there is a lot more that goes into the hack strategy than this though.
some cons to consider:
-as you already said, there are no fast break points, which the rockets excel at.
-the clippers starting 5 has a large edge on the rockets starting 5, this extends the game giving them more rest and allows them to play more minutes
-can only run it once there are 5 fouls in a quarter. if you start doing it in the first quarter we are talking about maybe 15 fouls a quarter for your team. you want to play 7-8 guys for the majority of your minutes, but that is only <48 fouls available for those guys without fouling out. so you can't have your own starters fouling nonstop or they will be in horrendous foul trouble all game, and may foul out early and give you a big disadvantage at the end, so you must rotate in some crappy bench players like papanikolau to give you some fouls, which hurts your own offense
there are also some hidden pros as well:
-offensive rebounding rates are worse on free throws than on normal possessions.
-can force a subpar player like big baby into the game at critical moments
that said, if I were the rockets I would be running lots of hack a DJ, particularly late in games when I was sure my starters were not in foul trouble. they clearly cannot stop the clippers offense, it is probably the better strategy. Haralabos was tweeting during the Spurs series that he thought the Spurs defense was good enough to stop their offense and that it was a mistake there. Best to take it on case by case and not just mindlessly base it off PPP
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soberstone   United States. May 13 2015 02:58. Posts 2662
So 6:30 minutes through this game, Rockets facing elimination, Clippers come out cold as hell, and yet the Rockets are up by 2 points. Should be up 10 easy. Such garbage. Fucking hate being a Rockets fan right now. Luckily I'm actually going to play basketball tonight so I won't see the end of this game which will probably be a painful choke-job by the Rockets or them being down by like 10 and just quitting, which is even worse.
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soberstone   United States. May 13 2015 03:00. Posts 2662
Oh man.... the Craig Sager thing is really sad.... he's clearly on his way out.... just being real. Sucks.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 13 2015 03:06. Posts 8648
Sager bit bummed me out too =[
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 13 2015 04:16. Posts 20070
refs are doing a gr8 job at keeping deandre out of the game
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soberstone   United States. May 13 2015 06:22. Posts 2662
WoW. Just got back to see that we smashed them. Good stuff. And Harden messed around and had a t-dub? Dayam
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Raid   United States. May 13 2015 18:29. Posts 318
That 8 points is looking pretty good if Wall plays tonight.
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soberstone   United States. May 14 2015 03:29. Posts 2662
On May 13 2015 17:29 Raid wrote:
That 8 points is looking pretty good if Wall plays tonight.
Good call that was a steal
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soberstone   United States. May 14 2015 03:38. Posts 2662
Man. Regardless of that outcome. Paul Pierce does what they pay the man to do.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 14 2015 04:08. Posts 20070
what a sick first quarter GSW v Memphis
Curry beast mode
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TimDawg   United States. May 14 2015 12:23. Posts 10197
On May 14 2015 03:08 TalentedTom wrote:
what a sick first quarter GSW v Memphis
Curry beast mode
i know I'm a big Grizzlies homer but the officiating in that game was atrociously one sided
It's hard enough to beat a team as great as the Warriors but they were drawing dead based on how the game was called
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traxamillion   United States. May 14 2015 14:54. Posts 10468
On May 12 2015 07:17 Raid wrote:
This Clippers -2 1/2 line seems like a complete setup. Wonder if Houston's going to stick with the hack-a-Jordan in Game 5--I know all the analysts were saying it backfired but didn't he miss the majority of his free throws?
Hes shooting 42% free throws in playoffs (42% career), which is the equivalent of 84 points per 100 posession (Philledelphia which ranks 30th and averages 93/100, lakers are 24th and average 101/100, just to add perspective (Off Def Rating).) Only reason it didnt work is because Houston could not score at a rate higher then this with the lineup they had on the floor. Clearly a very +EV strategy, in fact if you have an unlimited anoumt of fouls to give, you would foul him 100% of the time all game. Also another note, when Houston does this strategy, James harden should play all 48 min, since while jordan is shooting free throws, he dosnt have to waste energy on defence, its basically the equivalent of a timeout break every other posession.
If Golden state does this, they would prob crush the clips
Great breakdown, but the one thing I would say you are leaving out is that Houston's PP 100 possessions is also being reduced pretty drastically when they completely take away the transition game and let the Clippers, especially with D-Jordan, set-up their half-court defense. Nonetheless, especially on the road, it's clearly a good strategy.
I've also seen the argument being made that by fouling Jordan so much so early, you are putting the Clippers into the bonus far too quickly, and they have 3 of the top 5 FT shooters in the NBA on their team.
I don't think this matters as much because often they will let the team fall into bonus naturally (or close) before going hack. And even if they don't, once they get into the bonus they start snap fouling so it is almost always landing on deandre no matter how well the other players shoot. then towards 2 mins everyone is in bonus anyways.
Hack a deandre is massively +ev for the other team and I expect rule changes next season.
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traxamillion   United States. May 14 2015 14:56. Posts 10468
Saying hack a deandre backfired in game 5 is the most results oriented thinking ever. Guy was 10/28 at the line at one point lol, how many points per possession under league average (much less clips avg) is that?
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 14 2015 17:11. Posts 20070
The most logical rule change I can think of is that instead of shooting two free throws, the team / player have the option to inbound instead of shooting free throws, since its only the terrible FT shooters who are intentionally fouled.
Another option available, lets say once a team reaches a threshhold of fouls in a quarter (9 for example), then the team can shoot the free throws with any player on the court instead of the player who was fouled. This would also affect late game situations where the last 1 min takes 15 min to play out since you can now keep your best lineups on the floor instead of just the lineups with good FT shooters.
We expect them to change the rule, anyone have better options (without punishing the majority of players who are at least decent FT shooters)?
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Raid   United States. May 14 2015 21:36. Posts 318
Anyone on the Cavs +2 tonight? LBJ played like crap the last time they were in Chicago and they still won, am thinking he'll do better in this one.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 14 2015 21:44. Posts 8648
i think it's tough to bet this game without knowing what % Pau is at but that's just me.
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 01:32. Posts 2662
I bet on both dogs tonight, so far so bad. Let's go Bron.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 15 2015 01:39. Posts 8648
Thompson is a machine
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Raid   United States. May 15 2015 01:48. Posts 318
And Irving goes down. So much for my Cleveland bet.
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 02:09. Posts 2662
Except maybe not. Huge run by Cleveland. Big time shots.
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 02:12. Posts 2662
Are we witnessing Tibedous last game as non Pelicans coach?
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 15 2015 03:04. Posts 20070
This is prob the worst offensive performance I've ever seen
lolbulls
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 15 2015 03:07. Posts 8648
Rose doing work on that exercise bike though
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 15 2015 03:08. Posts 20070
why are the bulls double teaming the lebron james post vs butler , butler has been playing him well all series, James is taking a lot of terrible / tough shots esp since they are taking 20s+ per posession, it's leavng everyone else open and opening up a lot of offensive boards
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 03:29. Posts 2662
Bulls were just dead and quit, plain and simple
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 03:30. Posts 2662
I could see Houston doing the mirror image of that sort of low energy quitting on defense tonight, but I hope not.
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Raid   United States. May 15 2015 03:36. Posts 318
Yeah, wanted to bet on this game, too, but figured the Rockets might lay down and die again like the last time they played at Staples.
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 04:49. Posts 2662
Competitive first half. Best I could ask for.
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soberstone   United States. May 15 2015 06:16. Posts 2662
Oh My God. Insane!
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 15 2015 06:20. Posts 8648
LOL JSMOOV
i dont have a strong rooting interest in this matchup but watching Josh Smith drain 3's is hilarious for some reason
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 15 2015 06:27. Posts 8648
lol that last Paul 3 cost me some money XD
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traxamillion   United States. May 15 2015 09:01. Posts 10468
Awesome my awful bet on rockets for the series (-160) is still live !
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 15 2015 14:18. Posts 20070
ARE YOU KIDDING ME, I WENT TO SLEEP AFTER 3 QUARTERS
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Raid   United States. May 15 2015 19:53. Posts 318
Anyone on Washington -2 1/2 today? A bit scary tho because not many of those little favorites have been covering lately.
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:15. Posts 2662
I took Atlanta at +2.
Korver is so worthless right now, he's playing too many minutes at this point.
Get the "W" and I'm sure he'll come out more effective next series.
+ Refs are fucking Atl big time here
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 16 2015 02:22. Posts 20070
Kyle Choker ice cold..
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:23. Posts 2440
We can basically get anything we want around the rim... we should start shooting 3s
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:24. Posts 2662
On May 16 2015 01:23 ERASA wrote:
We can basically get anything we want around the rim... we should start shooting 3s
+1
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 16 2015 02:26. Posts 20070
cya wiz
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:29. Posts 2440
ATL ML.. go me
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:33. Posts 2662
On May 16 2015 01:29 ERASA wrote:
ATL ML.. go me
Yah me too. Unfortunately they want to give the Wizards overtime by turning the ball over and missing free throws.
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:34. Posts 2440
Don't do it to me, Paul :/
Edit: to us i guess
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:35. Posts 2662
OMG FOUL!!!!! WHY ARE U GONNA "THE TRUTH" TRUTH YOU!
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:35. Posts 2662
HE DIDN"T GET IT OFF
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:36. Posts 2662
That was absolutely insane. This series has been insane. I love it.
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:36. Posts 2440
Yes, too late :D
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:36. Posts 2440
If they give the basket.. the fix is in...
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:40. Posts 2662
Nope. Series. I wonder what the line on the first Cleveland game will be. Guess it depends on Kyrie's health.
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 02:43. Posts 2662
This game I have Golden State at -220. Think those odds were insanely good. GS should close this out easy.
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ERASA   Germany. May 16 2015 02:45. Posts 2440
I wanted to bet GS too, but i somehow missed it lol
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 16 2015 03:07. Posts 20070
memphis offense so bad ever since GSW started double teaming the post
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soberstone   United States. May 16 2015 04:25. Posts 2662
Curry just hit the shot of shots, speachless.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 16 2015 04:35. Posts 20070
that entire sequence was amazing
curry beating, if you look at igudala, he puts his hands up to celebrate even before the shot goes in lol
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 17 2015 20:13. Posts 20070
Clippers starters need to play 40+ each, bench is just so terrible. PLease no more austin rivers and glen davis
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Raid   United States. May 17 2015 20:29. Posts 318
Rockets +2 1/2? Hard to see L.A. coming back from that horrible collapse.
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soberstone   United States. May 17 2015 20:32. Posts 2662
LETS GO ROCKETS.
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ERASA   Germany. May 17 2015 20:34. Posts 2440
I have Houston ML
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soberstone   United States. May 17 2015 20:53. Posts 2662
What a horse-shit call for Howard's 2nd foul. Are you fucking kidding me?
Houston should go to hack a Deandre here while Howard is off the court and they have the lead. It's the perfect time.
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soberstone   United States. May 17 2015 21:41. Posts 2662
Well. Solid 1st half but if we're being honest the Clippers played like shit and Rockets only up 10 so can't feel too great about it. They need to get up 15, go small, and start the hack-a-Jordan.
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TimDawg   United States. May 17 2015 22:00. Posts 10197
Chris Paul is going to be the only reason for the Clippers somehow winning this game
Everyone else playing like shit
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 17 2015 22:02. Posts 20070
Hard to get super excited about this game considering who they have to play next
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 17 2015 22:27. Posts 20070
CYA Clippers
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ERASA   Germany. May 17 2015 22:46. Posts 2440
Wait what is jeff v gundy talkingh about. if the foul howard before the ball is in play isnt it two shots howard + rockets ball? am i stupid?
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soberstone   United States. May 17 2015 22:52. Posts 2662
On May 17 2015 21:46 ERASA wrote:
Wait what is jeff v gundy talkingh about. if the foul howard before the ball is in play isnt it two shots howard + rockets ball? am i stupid?
No, and I love JVG, but it's inexcusable for him to be so naive about a basic rule
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 17 2015 22:53. Posts 20070
^^ I'm not sure about that either, I think this is only possible before the 2 min mark? Which would explain why it's never used, Otherwise late game fouling would happen before the imbound
Also GL to Jason Terry next round trying to guard curry
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ERASA   Germany. May 17 2015 23:04. Posts 2440
Ohh boy...
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soberstone   United States. May 17 2015 23:10. Posts 2662
On May 17 2015 21:53 TalentedTom wrote:
^^ I'm not sure about that either, I think this is only possible before the 2 min mark? Which would explain why it's never used, Otherwise late game fouling would happen before the imbound
Also GL to Jason Terry next round trying to guard curry
It's 2 shots and ball out of bounds to the team with the ball. You can't intentionally foul away from the ball on an out of bounds play until the ball is in bounds. That's the rule.
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Raid   United States. May 17 2015 23:40. Posts 318
On May 17 2015 21:53 TalentedTom wrote:
Also GL to Jason Terry next round trying to guard curry
Best perimeter defender on best offensive player would mean Ariza guards Curry, right? Then again, McHale's kind of weird so who knows...
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blackjacki2   United States. May 17 2015 23:52. Posts 2581
On May 17 2015 21:46 ERASA wrote:
Wait what is jeff v gundy talkingh about. if the foul howard before the ball is in play isnt it two shots howard + rockets ball? am i stupid?
No, and I love JVG, but it's inexcusable for him to be so naive about a basic rule
Jon Barry did the same thing earlier in the season
soberstone   United States. May 19 2015 04:13. Posts 2662
Houston doesn't matchup so horribly on D because the Warriors are great at ball movement and movement off the ball so Houston atleast has the lengthy athletic 3's-5's to switch on a lot of shit and not get burned so often on picks, etc.
That said obviously the Warriors should smoke Houston because they are just the best team with the best player, but I'm just saying stylistically, it's not the worst.
On D though Harden will probably be shut down by Clay, Barnes, Igoudala, etc so Houston's gonna have to go through that interior ball movement with Howard and Smith a lot more than is probably optimal under normal circumstances and hope Bogut gets in early foul trouble because the warriors are the least deep at the 5. Ezili's played well though.
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Raid   United States. May 20 2015 00:40. Posts 318
Rockets 0-4 vs. Warriors this season, average margin of victory 15 points. That sucks, kind of wanted to bet the Rockets again.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 20 2015 00:59. Posts 20070
If Lakers win tonights draft lottery, the lottery is officially rigged
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 20 2015 01:10. Posts 20070
Cleveland also gonna need some picks to ensure positive future
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 20 2015 02:51. Posts 20070
Wow houston wins game one?
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soberstone   United States. May 20 2015 02:52. Posts 2662
Got the Rockets ml for Game 1 at +475. One time.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 20 2015 03:06. Posts 20070
On May 20 2015 01:52 soberstone wrote:
Got the Rockets ml for Game 1 at +475. One time.
sry for jynx
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soberstone   United States. May 20 2015 03:12. Posts 2662
On May 20 2015 01:52 soberstone wrote:
Got the Rockets ml for Game 1 at +475. One time.
sry for jynx
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 20 2015 04:16. Posts 20070
harden entering beast mode
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soberstone   United States. May 20 2015 04:50. Posts 2662
GG. GS in 5
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Raid   United States. May 20 2015 23:50. Posts 318
Am thinking of taking the Cavs +1 here. How do you guys see this game/series playing out?
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 01:43. Posts 2662
On May 20 2015 22:50 Raid wrote:
Am thinking of taking the Cavs +1 here. How do you guys see this game/series playing out?
I took Cas ML at +125
Cavs in 6
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 02:20. Posts 2662
Cavs guards need to start giving Teague space and living with the jumper. They get burned everytime 1 v 1 trying to play pressure and angles.
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Raid   United States. May 21 2015 02:27. Posts 318
LeBron looks unstoppable. But the Cavs can't slow down Atlanta's guards, so I guess it evens out.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 21 2015 02:59. Posts 20070
shumpert should be on teague, delevedova should be on the bench
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 03:00. Posts 2662
Fantastic, Lebron twists his ankle right next to Money.
Probably had like a mil on the game and had some TMT cat get at Lebron's ankle.
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 03:01. Posts 2662
On May 21 2015 01:27 Raid wrote:
LeBron looks unstoppable. But the Cavs can't slow down Atlanta's guards, so I guess it evens out.
They can easily stop the guards by doing what Talented Tom said and also simply making them shoot instead of trying to pressure Teague at the top of the key, etc
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 21 2015 03:26. Posts 20070
refs look unstopable, atlanta cant win this
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Raid   United States. May 21 2015 03:28. Posts 318
J.R. Smith heat check.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 21 2015 03:28. Posts 20070
JRRR Smith
omg
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 03:29. Posts 2662
JR Smith and Tristan Thompson have just eaten souls this game (And ofcourse Lebron)
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 21 2015 03:39. Posts 20070
its labron time
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soberstone   United States. May 21 2015 03:40. Posts 2662
Kyrie Irving needs to sit this unless it gets close - I mean the series, not this game. He's worthless now, they can win without him, and they need to be healthy for the finals.
It's a fucking no brainer for Blatt.
Edit: Especially now after Carroll just blew his knee out. Unfortunate.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 21 2015 03:43. Posts 20070
i cringe everytime lebron dribbles for 22s and then decides to start moving
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Raid   United States. May 21 2015 20:32. Posts 318
Tempting to go with Cleveland +1 1/2 again on Friday, especially after that injury--was that a complete blowout or just a sprain? Took a piece of Houston +10, too, but wasn't quite optimistic enough to do the +425 moneyline.
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soberstone   United States. May 22 2015 03:30. Posts 2662
This is a sick game.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 22 2015 04:01. Posts 20070
NBA needs some kind of challenge system, that charge call vs that curry floater was ridicilous
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soberstone   United States. May 22 2015 04:10. Posts 2662
On May 22 2015 03:01 TalentedTom wrote:
NBA needs some kind of challenge system, that charge call vs that curry floater was ridicilous
First they need how to learn how to get the easy replay calls quicker, than I'd be open to such a thing
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 22 2015 04:36. Posts 20070
Wowwww that finish
unreal harden
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soberstone   United States. May 22 2015 04:37. Posts 2662
Unreal game. Brilliantly coached by Mchale all the way to not calling timeout - Harden needs to drive that. Great game. Great finish. Excellent heart displayed by Rockets, I'm honestly not even mad as a fan. I mean I am. But fuck.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 22 2015 04:38. Posts 20070
harden looks completley unstopable ever since that g4 no play vs the clips, it's almost like hes been liberated
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 22 2015 04:39. Posts 20070
^^ yeah really akward pass, hes been crushing them by driving, they were only down 1, ariza was open, but he's been getting all of the foul calls
oh edit, he passed it to howard.. eek
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Raid   United States. May 22 2015 05:03. Posts 318
Rockets now 5-0 ATS their last 5 games and Vegas just made them 1-point underdogs in Game 3.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 24 2015 03:12. Posts 20070
disguisting first half by the rockets, cya
Harden pulled a Houdini
lol GSW @ 1 turnover in the half
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PuertoRican   United States. May 25 2015 20:43. Posts 13048
So far, I have $20 on u213 in Game 4 of the Warriors vs. Rockets. Gonna be pounding the under if it gets to 215 or higher throughout the game.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 25 2015 22:39. Posts 8648
Harden at Drake concert/clubbing last night. RIP Houston.
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PuertoRican   United States. May 26 2015 02:32. Posts 13048
Sick 1st quarter in the Warriors/Rockets game...
Sick 1st period in the Ducks/Blackhawks game... DUCKS!!! ^^
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PuertoRican   United States. May 26 2015 04:48. Posts 13048
Sick performance from Harden...
That landing by Curry was scary as fuck. He could've easily broke his arm if he landed at a slightly different angle...
Anyway, I lost -$13 in the end. I couldn't get a read on the game cuz they kept scoring so much. Crazy... Anyway, it could've been A LOT worse, so I'm not too mad about it.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 26 2015 06:02. Posts 8648
yeah, i was shocked they let Curry back in the game tbh. glad he's ok though.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 26 2015 15:35. Posts 20070
Klay looked like he got a spring in his step when curry got injured. Maybe he's finally activated, just in time for NBA finals, cause he's been invisible these playoffs. Although it's prob balanced by Curry's above average play
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flounder44   United States. May 26 2015 18:45. Posts 916
i am betting the house on warriors on wednesday
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PuertoRican   United States. May 26 2015 21:29. Posts 13048
I have Atlanta +7.5 ($10) and Atlanta ML +275 ($5) for Game 4.
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 27 2015 05:35. Posts 20070
brutal 3 point shooting hurt atlanta in these playoffs (vs washington too), not sure if its varience or better scouting by the opposing teams, prob a little bit of both. That being said they had little chance vs cleveland, the rebounding margins were just too great
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flounder44   United States. May 27 2015 09:30. Posts 916
thoughts on GSW vs CAVS? I feel like gsw win in 5... the west is just a completely diff beast
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 27 2015 11:00. Posts 8648
agree Warriors in 5 is most likely outcome
imo:
GSW in 5 >> GSW in 6 = GSW in 7 >> GSW in 4 > Cavs in 6 > Cavs in 7 >> Cavs in 5 > Cavs in 4
think dubs should be about a 3-1 favorite
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 27 2015 14:11. Posts 20070
2.5:1 prob more accurate
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 27 2015 15:37. Posts 8648
could be, i wasn't sure what numbers to use for homecourt advantage for each team so i pretty much just guessed. different sources give different numbers but i think avg. homecourt this year was only 2.33 pts according to Sagarin and it keeps shrinking, but neither GS/CLE have average homecourts and playoffs are supposedly different too (although i think last year was the first year that there was no difference between reg. season and postseason homecourt and everything is trending towards homecourt being irrelavent so who knows), so i just used 3.5 pts for GS and 3 pts for CLE. Warriors are -3 on neutral court according to ELO so i just went off that and worked out the percentages.
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soberstone   United States. May 28 2015 01:23. Posts 2662
Rockets at +485. Prob bad bet, but I want them to force game 6 (obviously, they are my team) - and can't pass up. All games have been close except 3.
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soberstone   United States. May 28 2015 02:32. Posts 2662
1st Quarter is best quarter of basketball the Rockets have played this year. Amazing perimeter defense / switching for 10-20 seconds and than Howard just being ridiculous in the paint at the end of possessions. Doubt they can keep this kind of D up for 48 minutes straight but God Dayam.
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PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2015 02:42. Posts 13048
On May 28 2015 01:32 soberstone wrote:
1st Quarter is best quarter of basketball the Rockets have played this year. Amazing perimeter defense / switching for 10-20 seconds and than Howard just being ridiculous in the paint at the end of possessions. Doubt they can keep this kind of D up for 48 minutes straight but God Dayam.
I just tuned in as the 1st quarter ended. I'm currently focusing on the Over. I have a bet on o200.5 thus far.
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Daut   United States. May 28 2015 05:21. Posts 8955
Line opened roughly dubs -250, cavs +210 on most books. Slightly like dubs at that price. As some have said on twitter, have 4 guys that can guard LBJ: dray, iggy, barnes, and even bogut. And their role players are more than just catch and shoot guys like cleveland's are.
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win. would have bet cavs +400, but won't bet more here, already have the GSW future pre playoffs.
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traxamillion   United States. May 28 2015 06:51. Posts 10468
bet gsw at 20:1 before the season
do i hedge now?
thinking no
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traxamillion   United States. May 28 2015 06:52. Posts 10468
its a small bet i'm a let it ride
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 28 2015 06:55. Posts 8648
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win.
validation!!
if anyone wants to bet at vig-free lines (which i think are +221.41 Cavs/ -221.41 W's) i'll take Warriors for up to $500 if we can find someone to escrow (or if it's someone super-reputable i would be fine just sending my bet).
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. May 28 2015 14:46. Posts 2422
so klay thompson reminds me of weidman
hopefully cavs gsw is a fun series
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n0rthf4ce   United States. May 28 2015 17:29. Posts 8119
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win.
validation!!
if anyone wants to bet at vig-free lines (which i think are +221.41 Cavs/ -221.41 W's) i'll take Warriors for up to $500 if we can find someone to escrow (or if it's someone super-reputable i would be fine just sending my bet).
ill take cavs $500 to win $1110. quote "confirmed" for book.
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n0rthf4ce   United States. May 28 2015 17:30. Posts 8119
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Line opened roughly dubs -250, cavs +210 on most books. Slightly like dubs at that price. As some have said on twitter, have 4 guys that can guard LBJ: dray, iggy, barnes, and even bogut. And their role players are more than just catch and shoot guys like cleveland's are.
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win. would have bet cavs +400, but won't bet more here, already have the GSW future pre playoffs.
willing to bet on cavs juice free, lmk
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PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2015 19:45. Posts 13048
On May 28 2015 13:46 CamilaPunt wrote:
so klay thompson reminds me of weidman
hopefully cavs gsw is a fun series
Aside from the smooth skin, I don't see any resemblance.
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PuertoRican   United States. May 28 2015 19:47. Posts 13048
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Line opened roughly dubs -250, cavs +210 on most books. Slightly like dubs at that price. As some have said on twitter, have 4 guys that can guard LBJ: dray, iggy, barnes, and even bogut. And their role players are more than just catch and shoot guys like cleveland's are.
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win. would have bet cavs +400, but won't bet more here, already have the GSW future pre playoffs.
This for game 1, or the series?
Warriors are -230 for the series, -255 for game 1 @ Bookmaker.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 29 2015 02:46. Posts 8648
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win.
validation!!
if anyone wants to bet at vig-free lines (which i think are +221.41 Cavs/ -221.41 W's) i'll take Warriors for up to $500 if we can find someone to escrow (or if it's someone super-reputable i would be fine just sending my bet).
ill take cavs $500 to win $1110. quote "confirmed" for book.
hey peachy, i meant i would bet $500, sorry for confusion.
edit: series price is +165 / -190 on Bovada now, so i'd want to bet the vig-free line of +/- 173.6 or $500 to win ~$288. if that's still ok with you then bet is confirmed. is there a link to the series prices on other books? what's the
edit2: what are the series prices now at other books? i'm mostly just finding game 1 odds, but if the series prices aren't too different from bovada's i'll probably bet at their no-vig lines too.
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n0rthf4ce   United States. May 29 2015 08:59. Posts 8119
On May 28 2015 04:21 Daut wrote:
Tossing out a guess, think GSW should be about 75% to win.
validation!!
if anyone wants to bet at vig-free lines (which i think are +221.41 Cavs/ -221.41 W's) i'll take Warriors for up to $500 if we can find someone to escrow (or if it's someone super-reputable i would be fine just sending my bet).
ill take cavs $500 to win $1110. quote "confirmed" for book.
hey peachy, i meant i would bet $500, sorry for confusion.
edit: series price is +165 / -190 on Bovada now, so i'd want to bet the vig-free line of +/- 173.6 or $500 to win ~$288. if that's still ok with you then bet is confirmed. is there a link to the series prices on other books? what's the
edit2: what are the series prices now at other books? i'm mostly just finding game 1 odds, but if the series prices aren't too different from bovada's i'll probably bet at their no-vig lines too.
not booked at this current number, sorry!
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n0rthf4ce   United States. May 29 2015 08:59. Posts 8119
PS that is a fantastic number for golden state.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 29 2015 10:49. Posts 8648
yeah i was surprised when i saw it, have to admit i'm a little confused at why the price has been moving more towards Cleveland's side. anyway, gl!
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casinocasino   Canada. May 29 2015 19:46. Posts 3343
-180 now on bovada... this line seems really good.. am I right?
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TalentedTom   Canada. May 30 2015 03:14. Posts 20070
On May 29 2015 09:49 bigredhoss wrote:
yeah i was surprised when i saw it, have to admit i'm a little confused at why the price has been moving more towards Cleveland's side. anyway, gl!
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 30 2015 09:30. Posts 8648
does curry have to play in a straight jacket too??
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MARSHALL28   United States. May 30 2015 13:15. Posts 1897
On May 05 2015 05:02 traxamillion wrote:
I got warriors at 20:1 to win the championship before the season started. Can't wait till that comes in
i had 1500 on them at 18:1 to win it last year. : [
fml
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jun 02 2015 12:09. Posts 8119
On May 29 2015 18:46 casinocasino wrote:
-180 now on bovada... this line seems really good.. am I right?
if u can still get this u should fire allin
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 02 2015 14:23. Posts 8648
yeah, unfortunately that number is capped at $118.75 (lol). and if you've bet at bovada before and shown any sign of possibly being +ev you won't have access to that line when you login to your account.
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1u on Warriors -6. On my way home, so I'll miss some of the game.
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What a crappy result for Cleveland... They played so good for most of the game, but couldn't do shit in OT... I'm surprised it even went to OT considering they had the last shot. That being said, I expect them to get raped in the rest of the series now that Kyrie Irving got injured in game 1.
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 05 2015 14:20. Posts 20070
that last lebron shot was the toughest shot he took all game. I don't understand why he didn't go deeper in the post
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 05 2015 17:37. Posts 8648
kinda bummed i didn't get any bets down for the series t.t meh
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 05 2015 22:42. Posts 13048
Kyrie Irving out of Finals with fractured left knee cap
PuertoRican   United States. Jun 07 2015 05:33. Posts 13048
Do you guys think I should hedge this parlay pre-game 2, or via live betting?
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Guess everyone is busy... ;o
Here's my plan:
I think what I'll do is live bet the Cavaliers at +13 or better for $40 during the first half, since I think the Warriors will come out strong. If the Cavaliers don't have a decent lead in the 1st half, I expect the Warriors to get a sizable lead in the 3rd quarter and get lazy in the 4th quarter.
And, if I'm wrong altogether, I'll just cry like a little bitch.
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Only made out with $30-$31 in profit. Once it got to the 2nd half, I had a hard time guessing how the game would go. I took the Cavs at -160 when they led by 5 or something during the 2nd half.
Basketball is stressful as fuck to bet on...
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 08 2015 04:54. Posts 20070
lebron just beat GSW by himself
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Into Infinity   United States. Jun 08 2015 21:20. Posts 1884
if lebron wins the ship is he > jordan?
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blackjacki2   United States. Jun 08 2015 23:52. Posts 2581
On June 08 2015 20:20 Into Infinity wrote:
if lebron wins the ship is he > jordan?
no. but he is only 30
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Jun 09 2015 16:08. Posts 2422
oh god the blake griffin dikembe mutombo had me crying lol
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soberstone   United States. Jun 10 2015 00:52. Posts 2662
I think the line is way too close tonight but am rooting for Cavs so don't want to bet on GSW.
Also, I think Steve Kerr has realized that Bogut is a liability in this matchup as they leave him on defense which fucks spacing and Curry in particular, he hasn't done much at all this whole playoffs offensively in the paint against good bigs, and on defense he's nothing special. I expect him to go away from him quickly if things don't start very well for the Warriors.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2015 00:53. Posts 13048
I'm gonna focus on the Over tonight via live betting, as well as the plus points on the Cavs and the Cavs ML when the Warriors get a mini lead at some point during the first half.
TimDawg   United States. Jun 10 2015 01:54. Posts 10197
Warriors gonna crush tonight
Steph Curry isn't going to go 2-16 or whatever it was in G2 again...and they still almost won that game
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2015 02:11. Posts 13048
On June 10 2015 00:54 TimDawg wrote:
Warriors gonna crush tonight
Steph Curry isn't going to go 2-16 or whatever it was in G2 again...and they still almost won that game
First, I'm not a basketball guy, so I'm just going off of what I've seen during the semis and current finals match between these both teams.
Most people I've seen online keep mentioning how the Warriors are the better team, they have underperformed in the first two teams, LeBron will get tired, how a certain player won't be able to do well against the Warriors for whatever reason, and how certain Warriors players will heat up any moment and start playing well.
If the Warriors were such a sick good team and better than the Cavaliers, why did they almost lose game 1, and lost game 2? LeBron could've ended the first 2 games by himself if he didn't miss both of the final shots of the both games. What happens if the Cavs win game 3? Will people still preach the same thing about the Warriors? I mean, for a team that should clearly be better, the Warriors haven't shown anything special yet.
Also, the Splash Brothers haven't been clicking lately. Klay did his thing in game 2, but he's been quiet lately. Moreover, he supposedly has a thigh injury via being kneed in game 2, but I doubt that it's anything serious, the media is most likely just making a big deal out of nothing.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 10 2015 02:28. Posts 2662
First of all, so shitty now Shumpert hurt..... give me a break.
Second, Warriors need to get shitty Bogut and Barnes out and go small quick, I wish they wouldn't because rooting for Cavs, but still
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2015 02:33. Posts 13048
On June 10 2015 01:28 soberstone wrote:
First of all, so shitty now Shumpert hurt..... give me a break.
Second, Warriors need to get shitty Bogut and Barnes out and go small quick, I wish they wouldn't because rooting for Cavs, but still
Yeah, Shumpert is hurt, which is great for my bet on him.
I currently have these live bets:
o191.5 -110 (1u)
1H o94.5 -126 (1u)
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 10 2015 03:45. Posts 20070
On June 10 2015 00:54 TimDawg wrote:
Warriors gonna crush tonight
Steph Curry isn't going to go 2-16 or whatever it was in G2 again...and they still almost won that game
Uhh.....
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 10 2015 04:04. Posts 8648
lol @ this game and these two dogshit teams. bring back Spurs/Clippers.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2015 04:40. Posts 13048
Sheesh... I'm not normally a basketball fan, but I think I might start following the sport full-time next season. Well, not full-time cuz I don't have enough free time, but more than just the playoffs. This series is sick AF...
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 10 2015 04:55. Posts 8648
lol^
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 10 2015 05:04. Posts 13048
I had massive swings with my bets... Barely came out ahead +1.7u after the o181.5 hit.
Gonna make sure to not bet so much during the next game, cuz I don't like finding myself in a spot where I'm risking so much money chasing the over/under.
Also, my Cleveland +195 to win the series is looking good.
On June 10 2015 03:55 bigredhoss wrote:
lol^
Now that I think about it, I believe I said the same exact thing during the Spurs vs. Heat finals, which was sick as fuck. I liked the 2014 finals better than the 2015 playoffs.
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 10 2015 07:16. Posts 10197
On June 10 2015 00:54 TimDawg wrote:
Warriors gonna crush tonight
Steph Curry isn't going to go 2-16 or whatever it was in G2 again...and they still almost won that game
Uhh.....
i once again I have no idea what I'm talking about apparently but....
I still believe the Warriors will win the series and will put some money on the updated series line if there are even money or better
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 10 2015 07:29. Posts 10197
On June 10 2015 00:54 TimDawg wrote:
Warriors gonna crush tonight
Steph Curry isn't going to go 2-16 or whatever it was in G2 again...and they still almost won that game
First, I'm not a basketball guy, so I'm just going off of what I've seen during the semis and current finals match between these both teams.
Most people I've seen online keep mentioning how the Warriors are the better team, they have underperformed in the first two teams, LeBron will get tired, how a certain player won't be able to do well against the Warriors for whatever reason, and how certain Warriors players will heat up any moment and start playing well.
If the Warriors were such a sick good team and better than the Cavaliers, why did they almost lose game 1, and lost game 2? LeBron could've ended the first 2 games by himself if he didn't miss both of the final shots of the both games. What happens if the Cavs win game 3? Will people still preach the same thing about the Warriors? I mean, for a team that should clearly be better, the Warriors haven't shown anything special yet.
Also, the Splash Brothers haven't been clicking lately. Klay did his thing in game 2, but he's been quiet lately. Moreover, he supposedly has a thigh injury via being kneed in game 2, but I doubt that it's anything serious, the media is most likely just making a big deal out of nothing.
I still believe the Warriors are the superior team are basically running below expectation for games 2 & 3. I could be wrong about this but if you look at the Warriors for this season as a whole body of work, they have statistically had one of the greatest single seasons in NBA history. Like probably top 10 greatest seasons ever..
I think you kind of answered your own question in the second paragraph. The Warriors lost game 2 and almost game 1 because Lebron played at another level and just flat out dominated. I think Delladova's play has really been huge as well the last 2 games but Lebron playing the way he is currently is just unstoppable. I'm having trouble understanding some of the adjustments Kerr has made. Like why in the hell has Andrew Bogut just stopped playing towards the end of games 2 & 3 (I think he wasn't in game 1 at the end also but due to foul trouble)?
I'm still not ready to give up on them. They were down 2-1 vs Memphis and then just crushed the rest of the series. Shumpert appeared to get hurt in game 3 and Delladova was also apparently sent on a stretcher to the hospital after the game due to "severe leg cramps". I just don't think the Cavs can maintain this level of play but Lebron continues to dominate and the role players hit their 3's AND the Warriors continue to shoot poorly. I don't see it happening. Maybe I'm jaded by the fact that I hate LBJ as a fan of basketball but there's no denying how great he is
Max bet on Bovada will be made if the Warriors are even money or better to back up what I'm saying!
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 10 2015 14:52. Posts 20070
^^ Warriors are clearly the superior team. It's hard to tell if curry is missing easy shots or the defense is playing well vs him, since the shots he makes vs the shots he misses look difficult for normal players either way, but he seems to make them routinely vs other teams.
Warriors started crushing the Grizz once they started blitzing the gasol/randolf posts, I suspect they are content with their defense on lebron and wont make any adjustments. w/ Lee getting more minutes game 4, the 100 mark is finally gonna get cracked in regulation since warriors offense will improve but also their interior defense will be worse off. In either case higher scoring should be favor arable for GSW.
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casinocasino   Canada. Jun 10 2015 18:52. Posts 3343
Lebron is playing on another level. After watching these last 3 games I am glad I did not bet on GSW. Lebron is a stronger player then Stephen Curry. I am kind of surprised to see the line only at -105 for Cavs, they have the series lead, the next game is in Cleveland, first two games have been closer then the third (momentum on Cavs), and Its Lebron, the hungriest player in the NBA. What can possibly GSW do? Maybe I am wrong but I assume the line sho.uld be closer to -130
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 10 2015 19:12. Posts 8648
On June 10 2015 17:52 casinocasino wrote:
Lebron is a stronger player then Stephen Curry.
i think 0 people on planet earth have ever said otherwise
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 11 2015 03:15. Posts 10197
I don't get these lines
Bovada's slaw ass lines has CLE -115 & GSW -105
Random bookie I know has CLE +100 & GSW -120
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 11 2015 03:27. Posts 13048
On June 11 2015 02:15 TimDawg wrote:
I don't get these lines
Bovada's slaw ass lines has CLE -115 & GSW -105
Random bookie I know has CLE +100 & GSW -120
Bookmaker has Cavs -104 vs. Warriors -116
5dimes has Cavs +100 vs. Warriors -110
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flounder44   United States. Jun 11 2015 08:09. Posts 916
still have faith in dubnation to win the series... they are simply too talented to go down like this. However, if they lose game 4, i give them a 5% chance to get to a game seven and win
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 11 2015 13:16. Posts 20070
i think if they go 1-3, they are still better then 50% to win each the remaining 3 games, i would think they are still >~15% to title being down 1-3
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 11 2015 17:03. Posts 10468
Agreed with Tom. They will be favored in each individual game this series no matter what and heavily favored at home.
I'm dropping everything I have on warriors ML tonight btw. Follow if you want to make money
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 11 2015 19:32. Posts 13048
On June 11 2015 16:03 traxamillion wrote:
I'm dropping everything I have on warriors ML tonight btw. Follow if you want to make money
Basketball fanboys are crazy.
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6 hours before game 4 starts and the series line looks like this: Cavs +112 vs. Warriors -132
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 11 2015 23:28. Posts 8648
On June 11 2015 16:03 traxamillion wrote:
I'm dropping everything I have on warriors ML tonight btw. Follow if you want to make money
tend to agree on Warriors ML tonight (have no action personally though)
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 12 2015 01:02. Posts 10197
I don't really like any of these lines...just not going to bet
If anything I'd bet Cavs ML for tonight (edit: +165) but I think all the lines I've seen for tonight's game and the series price are pretty spot on
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 12 2015 01:54. Posts 20070
GSW going very small, they are gonna get annahilated on the glass, or somehow score 110+ and finally shoot over 50%
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 12 2015 02:09. Posts 8648
so that's why the line moved to from -2.5 to -4
and yeah it was a given game would be faster-paced / higher-scoring when Lee starting getting real minutes, non-factor on D but provides a legit scoring threat while Green is injured/slumping.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 12 2015 02:09. Posts 13048
My bets for game 4 pre-live betting:
Cavs +2.5 -105 (1.5u)
Warriors score first 10 points -120 (.5u)
Tristan Thompson u10 points -145 (1u)
Cavs total o95 -115 (1u)
LeBron James points/assists o45.5 -117 (1u)
Stephen Curry assists u7 -125 (1u)
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soberstone   United States. Jun 12 2015 02:10. Posts 2662
Smart Warriors starting small.
Look for an early full court press as well. I fully expect Kerr to throw that in the gameplan.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 12 2015 02:13. Posts 8648
agree with the small lineup idea in general but Barnes shouldn't be starting imo
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soberstone   United States. Jun 12 2015 02:15. Posts 2662
On June 12 2015 01:13 bigredhoss wrote:
agree with the small lineup idea in general but Barnes shouldn't be starting imo
Agree, would've gone:
Lee
Green
Iguodola
Klay
Steph
I think Kerr might pull him now. He wanted to give him a chance to get his confidence back (as this is clearly all mental) but he's gonna be on a short leash.
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 12 2015 02:16. Posts 20070
On June 12 2015 01:13 bigredhoss wrote:
agree with the small lineup idea in general but Barnes shouldn't be starting imo
yeah guy is shooting historically terrible in the finals so far, cavs arnt even closing out when hes open for 3, they just get ready to grab the rebound
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 12 2015 02:31. Posts 8648
joey crawford gonna even this series up
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soberstone   United States. Jun 12 2015 02:37. Posts 2662
On June 12 2015 01:31 bigredhoss wrote:
joey crawford gonna even this series up
ROFL. Dude, if that wasn't a blatently GSW favored officiated quarter I don't know what is.
Mozgov was going straight up
Lebron got fouled atleast twice, probably more
Crawford calls that foul on JR Smith
Nothing the other way
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 12 2015 02:38. Posts 20070
if that david lee foul + draymond and 1 is a sign of things to come, game is over. James should rest for game 5
Although I dunno why NBA would rig it in favor of GSW. Cleveland winning would be one of the largest stories in sports.. ever. Prob not rigged, Joey is just a terrible refree
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soberstone   United States. Jun 12 2015 02:44. Posts 2662
On June 12 2015 01:38 TalentedTom wrote:
if that david lee foul + draymond and 1 is a sign of things to come, game is over. James should rest for game 5
Although I dunno why NBA would rig it in favor of GSW. Cleveland winning would be one of the largest stories in sports.. ever. Prob not rigged, Joey is just a terrible refree
Well said
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 12 2015 03:18. Posts 13048
God damn it... Tristan Thompson is scoring points for once... Motherfucker!
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 12 2015 03:53. Posts 20070
OMG comeback
plzzzz 1 time
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 12 2015 03:54. Posts 20070
Seems like Crawford has it in for Mozgov, 2-3 bad blocking fouls, and another 2-3 and 1's no calls
That could easily result in a 7-8 point swing
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 12 2015 04:59. Posts 13048
On June 12 2015 01:09 PuertoRican wrote:
My bets for game 4 pre-live betting:
Cavs +2.5 -105 (1.5u)
Warriors score first 10 points -120 (.5u)
Tristan Thompson u10 points -145 (1u)
Cavs total o95 -115 (1u)
LeBron James points/assists o45.5 -117 (1u)
Stephen Curry assists u7 -125 (1u)
Ended the night with +1.1u profit. Kinda sucks since I spent all that time for a small profit, but it's better than nothing.
Cavs +2.5 -105 (1.5u) = lost
Warriors score first 10 points -120 (.5u) = lost
Tristan Thompson u10 points -145 (1u) = lost
Cavs total o95 -115 (1u) = lost
LeBron James points/assists o45.5 -117 (1u) = lost
Stephen Curry assists u7 -125 (1u) = won
Cleveland +1.5 -112 (1u) = lost
1H o107.5 -125 (1.5u) = lost
1H u104.5 -130 (3u) = won
Golden State -9.5 -120 (1u) = won
u194.5 -110 (1u) = won
2H u98 -110 (1.5u) = won
2H u98.5 -110 (1u) = won
u200.5 -115 (1.5u) = won
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 14 2015 23:23. Posts 13048
Warriors vs. Cavaliers game 5 discussion
What do you guys think about the total set at 195? I already bet 1.5u on it going u195 the other day. It went up to 195.5, but is now at 194.5 on game day.
Also, the point spread is at 9, but the more I think about it, it seems like a trap, so I'm staying away from it.
I think we'll see one of two games; Warriors win while the Cavs slow down as the game progresses, or the game is close and can go either way. In both scenarios, I see the total being under 195 like it has been all series, minus game 1 that went to OT.
If LeBron isn't scoring well this game, he'll probably get pulled a little sooner than he did in game 4, just so they can save him for game 6 in Cleveland.
Thoughts?
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 15 2015 01:13. Posts 10197
I wouldn't touch the under with the way the Warriors played last game
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 15 2015 04:06. Posts 13048
7.9u profit. Made a dumb/risky move and it paid off.
They kept missing so many shots at the end, I was sweating... LeBron couldn't make anything during the end.
I was too big of a pussy to bet the Warriors -3.5 at the several times the game was tied. Anyway, I'm glad this series is almost over, cuz I can't handle the stress that comes with live betting basketball.
u195 -110 (1.5u) = push
Stephen Curry u7 assists -115 (.5u) = won
Timofey Mozgov o14.5 points -105 (.5u) = lost
1H u89.5 -117 (1u) = lost
1H u94.5 -121 (1u) = lost
2H u98 -115 (1u) = won
2H u97.5 -110 (1u) = won
Under 197 -110 (1u) = won
Cleveland +233 (1u) = lost
u189.5 -110 (1.5u) = lost
o194.5 -153 (10u) = won
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 15 2015 04:09. Posts 8648
i know it's awkward to give finals MVP to someone on the losing team but there's really no excuse for anyone but LBJ to win it this series even if/when the Cavs likely lose.
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 15 2015 14:48. Posts 20070
^^ there's been a lot of talk about that, hasn't happened since 1969 (could have been a mistake?) Everyone watching this series knows who deserves it. If you remove Curry/Bron from each team, Cavs lose by 20+ each game. This series is like a private store owner holding his ground vs Wal-Mart who just moved in next door.
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Daut   United States. Jun 15 2015 18:55. Posts 8955
live betting this series was the way to go. lebron can singlehandedly keep the games close for a while, but then gases out hard by the 4th quarter cause no human being can play 45+ minutes with a 50%+ usage rate. I hope he comes away from this series unscathed because what he is putting his body through every other night is dangerous.
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 16 2015 04:30. Posts 13048
What do you guys think about Game 6? I think the total opened at 194, and is now at 194.5 points. The spread opened at -4.5 in favor of the Warriors, but the spread is now -3.5 for the Warriors.
I'm thinking of betting a couple of units on the total if it gets to Under 195 or better, and then live bet the the rest like I've been doing.
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RiKD   United States. Jun 16 2015 05:08. Posts 8543
I think it is gambling.
Re: Lebron MVP. It is almost like regardless of what happens Lebron should get MVP. He has already played 4 of the best ever finals games ever.
I am in the middle of re-watching game 3 b/c Lebron is too sick. It is almost like besides some missed pick and rolls when AI is guarding him, some settling/bad shots when AI is guarding him, and some missed finishes around the basket he has played almost perfect. Like to the point where he could not make any improvements in his dribbles or passes. Well, dribbles yes. He makes mistakes but it does not effect things too much typically. Passing is optimal. Defense is great. Conditioning, I do not know how he keeps it up.
It's crazy. It is conceivable to me that there is reasonable improvement in his conditioning, 3 pointers (plenty), and finishing in the paint that he could be a 50, 15, and 10 guy next year in the finals if that is what is needed.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 17 2015 01:35. Posts 13048
Since this is do-or-die for the Cavs, I decided not to touch the total. I expect it to go o193.5, but who knows... I'll look at betting u203 or better if it gets that high, otherwise I'll just pass on the total. If I can get a read on the first half, I plan to live bet the first half, but probably just still to protecting my original investment on the Warriors -3 as the 2nd half starts.
PuertoRican   United States. Jun 17 2015 05:00. Posts 13048
On June 17 2015 00:35 PuertoRican wrote:
Since this is do-or-die for the Cavs, I decided not to touch the total. I expect it to go o193.5, but who knows... I'll look at betting u203 or better if it gets that high, otherwise I'll just pass on the total. If I can get a read on the first half, I plan to live bet the first half, but probably just still to protecting my original investment on the Warriors -3 as the 2nd half starts.
Warriors -3 -115 (2u) = won
1Q u49 -120 (.5u) = won
Andre Iguodala o13.5 points -115 (1u) = won
Cleveland +11.5 -114 (1u) = won
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 17 2015 05:11. Posts 20070
IGGY MVP
damnnn, curry's face was lol
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flounder44   United States. Jun 17 2015 05:35. Posts 916
^ cuz ere one was doubling steph they dont care bout noone else
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 17 2015 08:03. Posts 10468