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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Oct 01 2014 17:54. Posts 1585

Wow, I'm learning how to be an alpha male from Brett Favre. I can't believe it. Thanks man!&#65279;

gotta love youtube comments haha

[GiTM]- GoSu in the Making 

traxamillion   United States. Oct 01 2014 23:18. Posts 10468

Alpha male is a biological term used when talking about all kinds of species and groups. It's not necessarily a gay term unless you go around calling yourself one or try to sell people on how to become one. Replace Alpha Male with most fit (in a competitive sense) and it's the same thing.

All that PUA shit is extremely gay though and those losers don't own the term alpha


traxamillion   United States. Oct 01 2014 23:19. Posts 10468

Maybe people don't like it because they recognize themselves as beta and feel belittled by it?


TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 02 2014 00:12. Posts 20070

Delusional people very confident. Hard work, dedication, genetics are kinda huge (genetics prob being the largest). Most people who are really good at almost anything (athletes, poker players, mathematicians, speakers etc..) are naturally good at these things, however with hard work they become extremely good. Confidence helps some small %, but is a very small piece of the pie. Fear is also under-rated, it keeps you grounded and keeps you working hard. Society today is full of confident / delusional people, society is so fked up, we are told to believe if we think positively good things will happen. Global debt is record high, but who gives a shit as long as you believe everything will work out at the end, ignorance and deillusion make life very enjoyable but not realistic

I'm all for self help but it's going too far now, it's like the religion of the 21st century. People blindly believe in this shit

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

k4ir0s   Canada. Oct 02 2014 00:26. Posts 3476


  On October 01 2014 03:21 dogmeat wrote:
so you cant be an introvert whos comfortable and believe in himself?



+1

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

k4ir0s   Canada. Oct 02 2014 00:41. Posts 3476


  On September 30 2014 14:29 fira wrote:
7 million hands with no losing month thats pretty good i think? who is hero?



probably a low stakes FR grinder like this http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/2014/11...ths-and-5m-vpps-for-mike-146298.shtml


Seeing self help stuff from people like Deepak chopra always reminds me of this quote.
“When you confer spiritual authority on another person, you must realize that you are allowing them to pick your pocket and sell you your own watch.”&#65279;

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -OlyLast edit: 02/10/2014 00:41

Loco   Canada. Oct 02 2014 03:47. Posts 20963

^ That's a great way of putting it. Never heard this quote from Alan Watts before. His stuff is probably a good example of what people may be missing when they are reading self-help authors instead. Especially if they talk about eastern philosophy, because unlike these "teachers" he was a populariser rather than a perverter. He's a good entrance point for many people to philosophy, which once you are familiar with makes the whole concept of self-help books seem completely absurd and useless.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 02/10/2014 04:09

Mariuslol   Norway. Oct 02 2014 05:11. Posts 4742


  On October 02 2014 02:47 Loco wrote:
Never heard this quote from Alan Watts before.



If you youtube him, and then, somewhere no the first 2 pages of result, watch all the stuff that's under 40 minutes, he says the quote in one of those lol!

My bed time ritual, is going to bed, and I put thingys in my ear, and I put on Alan watts, and fall asleep to him, he's so comfortable.


Skoal   Canada. Oct 02 2014 08:32. Posts 460


  On September 30 2014 22:51 Floofy wrote:
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Even if you aren't naturally an alpha male, you can learn what beta behaviors turn off women and actively avoid them.

Like, let's say i want to see my gf tonight, and she's like "sorry i have homeworks to do tonight", maybe my natural reaction would be to be to tell her "please lets see each others", but i have learned to avoid this behavior and ill instead behave like i don't care.


looks or game 2.0 here we go


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Oct 02 2014 09:06. Posts 6374

just be yourself man... unless you are a retard, then dont

ban baal 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 02 2014 16:52. Posts 9634


  On October 01 2014 23:26 k4ir0s wrote:
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+1

guess im somewhat off, and when i think about it now a true alpha male is just the one who adapts the fastest to certain situations

 Last edit: 02/10/2014 16:59

traxamillion   United States. Oct 02 2014 21:50. Posts 10468

that is true tom but a positive outlook in general is going to be more beneficial than a pessimistic one. It doesn't mean you have to be blind to negative realities.


Loco   Canada. Oct 03 2014 01:29. Posts 20963


  On October 02 2014 20:50 traxamillion wrote:
that is true tom but a positive outlook in general is going to be more beneficial than a pessimistic one. It doesn't mean you have to be blind to negative realities.



Of course it's beneficial, it's a mechanism that was honed by nature for a reason (so to speak), even though it "blinds to negative realities"-- it conferred a clear evolutionary advantage. It's not just about negative realities though, it's about realistic ones, which means that it can be dangerous. The optimism bias prevents people from being able to objectively assess many things, both in relation to themselves and the world they live in. There is a lot of interesting research on this topic, and yes, everyone is more or less affected by the bias. The more interesting and less talked about subject is that a pessimistic worldview can help neutralize the problems caused by the optimism bias. It encourages prudence and results in a clearer perspective (as long as it isn't the result of a bias, which it can be). It has been gaining some more attention lately though:

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fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 03/10/2014 01:49

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Oct 03 2014 03:50. Posts 5296

You don't really need to do research on the optimism bias, you can just observe it happening around you all the time. I would see 'being unable to be honest' as one of the essential properties of man.
For example i often present arguments to my philosophy lecturers that they are immoral human beings. They seem to either agree with it, or say they don't know enough about the topic to criticize me. But then after they've agreed that they are immoral, they continue to live life as before. This is because it is very hard to live life honestly, I've never meet a human that can do it 100%, including myself.

There is a big political economy behind trying to remove the thought of misery, or complexity or other thoughts from people, and hence why human nature in society has headed towards a sort of 'irrational optimism'. Advertisers for example, who are the ones that basically control the media, have stated that they remove TV programming which interferes with the 'buying mood.'

I don't think pessimism or depression is a healthy attitude to have towards the huge suffering and injustices in the world. The healthy, and moral thing to do is to try and alleviate people from it, even if it seems like an impossible task it is the right thing to do. In fact i think one of the ways that might alleviate depression is with this method.

I also don't understand why some people get depressed from the cosmic insignificance of human beings. IMO, if humans weren't cosmically insignificant, the universe would be such a boring place. Science was so bad/boring before Copernicus

As for self help, i don't understand why people want so much advice from someone else to live their lives. It seems like some sort of mental sickness to me. The majority of self help books are utter trash as people have already pointed out. I believe there is one that may be good called 'the conquest of happiness', by Bertrand Russell. I haven't read it but he is usually right in his other books.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

Hoolz_1907   United Kingdom. Oct 03 2014 12:47. Posts 2791

Floofy?

Look at his hand and equities, what do you expect him to have here, uno cards? - TianYuan 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 03 2014 19:08. Posts 9634


  On October 03 2014 02:50 Stroggoz wrote:
You don't really need to do research on the optimism bias, you can just observe it happening around you all the time. I would see 'being unable to be honest' as one of the essential properties of man.
For example i often present arguments to my philosophy lecturers that they are immoral human beings. They seem to either agree with it, or say they don't know enough about the topic to criticize me. But then after they've agreed that they are immoral, they continue to live life as before. This is because it is very hard to live life honestly, I've never meet a human that can do it 100%, including myself.
.



If anyone achieves that he will either be the perfect human being or be absolutely nuts ( and i mean medically) and i doubt i will ever meet the first type, its because our self conscious needs denial in order to exist. We are honest hypocrites and most of us don't even realize it just because its not productive. And even if you know it you just pass it by anyways

 Last edit: 03/10/2014 19:09

Baalim   Mexico. Oct 04 2014 04:29. Posts 34250

pessimism is as wrong as optimism but people usually dont properly define them

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 04 2014 04:32. Posts 15163

and realism is an illusion
there's no right or wrong here just find what suits you best

93% Sure!  

lebowski   Greece. Oct 04 2014 14:28. Posts 9205

Lold toying around with the Chopra wisdom generator

Stroggos I'm curious, when you say you argued with your professors that they are immoral, did you mean by their own standards or regarding a universally true morality they should already understand?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

GoTuNk   Chile. Oct 04 2014 19:07. Posts 2860


  On October 04 2014 03:29 Baalim wrote:
pessimism is as wrong as optimism but people usually dont properly define them



I've found a delusional belief in myself is key on my lifting success


 
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