traxamillion United States. Sep 30 2014 15:43. Posts 10468
and honestly a lot of people can be both but it depends on which group of people they are in.
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traxamillion United States. Sep 30 2014 16:02. Posts 10468
another way to explain it would be that alpha male is not a black and white binary thing.
not just alpha/beta.
it is more
alpha 10---9---8---7---6---5---4---3---2---1 beta
a continuum in which you have a static place. and some attributes at each level will tend to apply to all members. For example all 7s will be proficient with women and basically being single is for them is an option; they could find a girl fast if they wanted to. 10s are obviously swatting girls away.
so depending on where you fall on the scale you may or may not take a leading role in a group as an alpha male.
for example a 6 going out with a bunch of 4s will tend to lead the way and if it was a house party or something he most likely be the one hooking up with the cuter girl.
If that 6 went to that same party with a bunch of 9s he may not get any play at all that night because the girls decided to hook up with the 9 men instead of him. The 6 also might be more of a follower in this group.
And this ranking is based on the feelings of your peers and your counterparts towards you. Their levels of respect, appreciation, or admiration of you based on primarily looks(size/features/etc)/attraction and personality/humor/popularity. Later in life financial status, power, and position can play a role.
All of those "life" coaches, date coaches, alpha male bullshit is so fucking stupid its goes beyond my mind. Get a few good psychology books and educate yourself and you ll change your perception of the people around you in an instant. Marius recommended "Thinking fast & slow " by Daniel Kahneman to me and my mind was blown by what I've read, although I had already read a few really good ones, but this guy is a pure genius on a whole new level.
btw gizmodo took it way too far with the definition of insanity : D
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
FWIW thats not really a quote from Einstein and actually that is not what insanity is
I cringe when I see any video made by a "life coach" or any inspirational/motivational bullshit in general. This guy markets himself as a life coach apparently, even though he seems to almost exclusively talk about dating/seduction. But life coaches typically are insufferable people who have read a few NLP/pop psychology books and think they are enlightened and try to cash on it. It's the most shallow, trendy and useless profession ever. Want to get better at some particular skill? Hire a competent teacher. But as for living life, nobody is a competent all-around teacher that can make you be a better human being. You should be the one that's trying to improve that yourself, WITH REAL WORK. Reminds me of Carlin's rant on self-help books:
This is the type of people it breeds:
What do you mean exactly by "Real Work"?
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MARSHALL28 United States. Sep 30 2014 22:11. Posts 1897
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
a lot of really smart ppl have made the mistake of assuming that having confidence is what makes successful people successful.
what they aren't realizing is that confidence is just a by-product of success. that successful people had confidence because they were successful, not that they were successful because they had confidence.
On September 30 2014 14:33 traxamillion wrote:
If you have to try to be or want to become an alpha male, then you are not one and that is that.
You know or not if you are an alpha male by the time you are going through school as a teenager. Some may mature later but in this you just are what you are.
Even if you aren't naturally an alpha male, you can learn what beta behaviors turn off women and actively avoid them.
Like, let's say i want to see my gf tonight, and she's like "sorry i have homeworks to do tonight", maybe my natural reaction would be to be to tell her "please lets see each others", but i have learned to avoid this behavior and ill instead behave like i don't care.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
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traxamillion United States. Oct 01 2014 00:13. Posts 10468
Yea you can change behaviors and improve I'm just saying some people are born more introverted than others and you can't change everything.
Here is an example of what I meant by that continuum thing. As a senior in high school I was more alpha in that social group than I was as a freshman in college in my fraternity
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traxamillion United States. Oct 01 2014 00:16. Posts 10468
Went from the top to the bottom based on who I was with
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
a lot of really smart ppl have made the mistake of assuming that having confidence is what makes successful people successful.
what they aren't realizing is that confidence is just a by-product of success. that successful people had confidence because they were successful, not that they were successful because they had confidence.
While you are right I somewhat disagree, if you give out the vibe that you are comfortable in your skin and believe in yourself you ll go a much longer way than an introvert. If you project success people can easily be fooled. Most people blow up their confidence because of failures and I'd say failures are success's best friend, except majority dont seem to understand that
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
a lot of really smart ppl have made the mistake of assuming that having confidence is what makes successful people successful.
what they aren't realizing is that confidence is just a by-product of success. that successful people had confidence because they were successful, not that they were successful because they had confidence.
confidence is not a by product of success, and success isnt a by product of confidence
Confidence helps in different degrees in different areas to achieve success, and success also helps build up confidence
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
FWIW thats not really a quote from Einstein and actually that is not what insanity is
I cringe when I see any video made by a "life coach" or any inspirational/motivational bullshit in general. This guy markets himself as a life coach apparently, even though he seems to almost exclusively talk about dating/seduction. But life coaches typically are insufferable people who have read a few NLP/pop psychology books and think they are enlightened and try to cash on it. It's the most shallow, trendy and useless profession ever. Want to get better at some particular skill? Hire a competent teacher. But as for living life, nobody is a competent all-around teacher that can make you be a better human being. You should be the one that's trying to improve that yourself, WITH REAL WORK. Reminds me of Carlin's rant on self-help books:
This is the type of people it breeds:
What do you mean exactly by "Real Work"?
By "real work" I simply meant investing yourself in learning the hard way. The people who only read pop psychology books or watch YouTube videos are not learning the hard way. That's more entertainment than it is work. Reading good books and doing some thinking of your own is what is challenging.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Oct 01 2014 04:21. Posts 6374
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
a lot of really smart ppl have made the mistake of assuming that having confidence is what makes successful people successful.
what they aren't realizing is that confidence is just a by-product of success. that successful people had confidence because they were successful, not that they were successful because they had confidence.
While you are right I somewhat disagree, if you give out the vibe that you are comfortable in your skin and believe in yourself you ll go a much longer way than an introvert. If you project success people can easily be fooled. Most people blow up their confidence because of failures and I'd say failures are success's best friend, except majority dont seem to understand that
so you cant be an introvert whos comfortable and believe in himself?
On September 30 2014 23:13 traxamillion wrote:
Yea you can change behaviors and improve I'm just saying some people are born more introverted than others and you can't change everything.
Here is an example of what I meant by that continuum thing. As a senior in high school I was more alpha in that social group than I was as a freshman in college in my fraternity
Not everyone can be Mr.Olympia, but anyone can put on muscle.
I think dating woman is similar.
I've read a lot of the game stuff and it def helped me a lot, however just like you can't be good at golf by reading books without playing, hitting on woman is somewhat similar. With time u internalize some stuff and it no longer feels like you are "faking it".
The industry is obviously as dirty and bullshit filled like the fitness one, but there is some good stuff down there.
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Oct 01 2014 09:56. Posts 15163
On September 29 2014 18:28 casinocasino wrote:
Confidence is the the key to anything. Poker players struggle with eating poorly, doing drugs, having mentally devastating swings, all sorts of problems, and it directly effects their performance in life. I do not think this guy is a dating genius, he is probably mediocre and just wins by default because he is not fat.
I personally struggled with a lot of these problems, living at home with my parents, doing drugs, eating take out and grinding mindlessly without actually taking 1/5th of the time I spent playing into thinking about how to improve my life. My favorite Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"
a lot of really smart ppl have made the mistake of assuming that having confidence is what makes successful people successful.
what they aren't realizing is that confidence is just a by-product of success. that successful people had confidence because they were successful, not that they were successful because they had confidence.
the causality goes the other way too, I remember that from a social psychology text book pretty sure there was research done on that.
EDIT: what Baal said. It's been in 2009 when I've done research on that won't pull sources now
93% Sure!
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MadeInPolanD Poland. Oct 01 2014 09:57. Posts 1383
On October 01 2014 06:21 iop wrote:
Words like "Alpha male" and "pickup community" make me want to drive a car into a wall.
