UFC FN 50: Souza vs. Mousasi - Page 6

Kinda sad seeing how crushed reem looked.

I agree he did not hit him in the face but he did hit him with some nice knees to the body - must have at least done some slow down to rothwell (which i was hoping for)
its weird but i just felt reem acted like he knew he would be put away at any time in the fight, he didn't look cautious, he looked kinda scared of getting hit - and he did.

I guess thats the last of the true "pride" guys im really rooting for each fight theyre in. is there anybody left thats even remotely relevant still?

Decent showing by Jacare.

He gets the next titleshot, and gets merked by Weidman.

bet on moraga+mitrione paid like 6.05+, but lost on mousasi but happy made some profits

Not sure what to think about the Jacare vs. Mousasi result. Jacare won and got the finish, but yeah... Neither guy looked great imo.

Jacare had the style to beat Mousasi, but he was gassed in the 3rd round. Mousasi ate a lot of shots and was on bottom. From a fan perspective, it was a boring fight since Jacare was on top for most of the fight and trying to work on Mousasi's arm, which meant not a lot of action was getting done. I'm wondering how Jacare was so tired in the 3rd round.

wow jacare is a beast. didnt see the first fight but this rematch he really looked like a league above gegar. he's one of those few high level jits guys i enjoy watching because he does use solid standup to set up his ground game. weidman will have his hands full with this one

On September 05 2014 22:57 whamm! wrote: wow jacare is a beast. didnt see the first fight but this rematch he really looked like a league above gegar. he's one of those few high level jits guys i enjoy watching because he does use solid standup to set up his ground game. weidman will have his hands full with this one

I strongly disagree. Dream matchup for Weidman.

Yea Weidman is a sizable favorite in that fight.

He's basically significantly better at every single aspect of MMA besides BJJ. And the gap there isn't even that big.

On September 05 2014 23:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: Yea Weidman is a sizable favorite in that fight. He's basically significantly better at every single aspect of MMA besides BJJ. And the gap there isn't even that big.

Biggest differences are in the cardio, striking technique, and of course wrestling.

Weidman's cardio has been criticized but I promise you it's much better than Jacare's, he was on top the entire time tonight and still looked gassed by the third round.

Jac's striking has only looked so good because his opponents are so worried about getting taken down and he does have big power... not gonna be the case with Weidman. If Jacare tries to wing those huge hooks without setting them up with jabs or kicks (neither of which he does), he's gonna get KO'd or end up on his back, where Weidman is safe.

Finally, Jacare's wrestling from the clinch is great and all, but Weidman is on a whole other level and is younger, bigger, stronger, and has better technique. No way those trips and waist-lock double-legs work on him.

The BJJ simply shouldn't factor into the equation.

I actually favor Rockhold over Jacare too.

On September 05 2014 22:11 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2014 22:07 soberstone wrote: Bahahahah - the Reem chin. Honestly though. Rothwell looked fucking good. Reem's chin didn't fail him this time, he got hit with a shot on a weird part of his head and collapsed, then couldn't recover from the barrage of punches. Sucks to see Reem lose, but that's life I guess.   On September 05 2014 22:10 whamm! wrote: Without the roids Reems strikes didn't seem to hurt Rothwell at all Reem didn't hit him much in the face. Did he even hit him in the face? He kept going for leg kicks and knees to the stomach.

LOL It's not Overeem's chin that's the problem. I've been saying this forever, the problem is he doesn't like to get hit PERIOD. Like I guess he is a really good MMA fighter in fights where he doesn't get hit. There is not a single fighter on the UFC roster that hates getting hit more than Overeem. He gets hit with a good shot ONCE and his striking output drops to basically zero, he gets super defensive, and is basically a sitting duck in every fight he's fought.

Those arms and that chest, it blinds so many people...

Original video doesn't work anymore.

I could have gotten a decent freeroll on Overeem and a huge freeroll on Rothwell at one point. I thought I could get even more of a freeroll and didn't go for it. My greed got the better of me, and then the lines started dropping and the freeroll was gone. The entire reason for the bets was the freeroll to begin with. 2014 profits down the drain, sucks.

Happy to see Joe Lauzon winning. I always feel at some point his style (including cardio) is going to be outdated as the level in MMA just keeps going up. He's such an entertaining fighter hope to see him soon again.

On September 06 2014 00:07 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2014 22:11 PuertoRican wrote:   On September 05 2014 22:07 soberstone wrote: Bahahahah - the Reem chin. Honestly though. Rothwell looked fucking good. Reem's chin didn't fail him this time, he got hit with a shot on a weird part of his head and collapsed, then couldn't recover from the barrage of punches. Sucks to see Reem lose, but that's life I guess.   On September 05 2014 22:10 whamm! wrote: Without the roids Reems strikes didn't seem to hurt Rothwell at all Reem didn't hit him much in the face. Did he even hit him in the face? He kept going for leg kicks and knees to the stomach. LOL It's not Overeem's chin that's the problem. I've been saying this forever, the problem is he doesn't like to get hit PERIOD. Like I guess he is a really good MMA fighter in fights where he doesn't get hit. There is not a single fighter on the UFC roster that hates getting hit more than Overeem. He gets hit with a good shot ONCE and his striking output drops to basically zero, he gets super defensive, and is basically a sitting duck in every fight he's fought. Those arms and that chest, it blinds so many people...

Seems like a mix of both at the very least. He doesn't deal with getting hit well because he knows he can't endure too much of it.

On September 06 2014 00:07 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2014 22:11 PuertoRican wrote:   On September 05 2014 22:07 soberstone wrote: Bahahahah - the Reem chin. Honestly though. Rothwell looked fucking good. Reem's chin didn't fail him this time, he got hit with a shot on a weird part of his head and collapsed, then couldn't recover from the barrage of punches. Sucks to see Reem lose, but that's life I guess.   On September 05 2014 22:10 whamm! wrote: Without the roids Reems strikes didn't seem to hurt Rothwell at all Reem didn't hit him much in the face. Did he even hit him in the face? He kept going for leg kicks and knees to the stomach. LOL It's not Overeem's chin that's the problem. I've been saying this forever, the problem is he doesn't like to get hit PERIOD. Like I guess he is a really good MMA fighter in fights where he doesn't get hit. There is not a single fighter on the UFC roster that hates getting hit more than Overeem. He gets hit with a good shot ONCE and his striking output drops to basically zero, he gets super defensive, and is basically a sitting duck in every fight he's fought. Those arms and that chest, it blinds so many people...

I thought he looked like he was trying to fight with a new style and he just wasn't prepared enough... Like, he kept ending up off balance and just looked sloppy to me, while throwing like 5 million oblique kicks and trying sloppy clinch/shot attempts. Idk, did not look like he was ready.

Overeems randomly switching stances from orthodox to southpaw was very strange. That is only something a fighter should be doing if it's natural to them. Not something you should try to have a 35 year old guy with like 70 professional fights to do in the course of one camp.

what in the fuck... Overeem has never looked more anxious in his entire career before, Jackson certainly made a big mistake here so sad, its all over for Overeem he is the new Arlovski, it doesnt matter how technically superior you are, if you are going to crumble at the 1st punch

On September 05 2014 23:46 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2014 23:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: Yea Weidman is a sizable favorite in that fight. He's basically significantly better at every single aspect of MMA besides BJJ. And the gap there isn't even that big. Biggest differences are in the cardio, striking technique, and of course wrestling. Weidman's cardio has been criticized but I promise you it's much better than Jacare's, he was on top the entire time tonight and still looked gassed by the third round. Jac's striking has only looked so good because his opponents are so worried about getting taken down and he does have big power... not gonna be the case with Weidman. If Jacare tries to wing those huge hooks without setting them up with jabs or kicks (neither of which he does), he's gonna get KO'd or end up on his back, where Weidman is safe. Finally, Jacare's wrestling from the clinch is great and all, but Weidman is on a whole other level and is younger, bigger, stronger, and has better technique. No way those trips and waist-lock double-legs work on him. The BJJ simply shouldn't factor into the equation. I actually favor Rockhold over Jacare too.

Agree with everything.

On September 03 2014 21:53 Baalim wrote: I feel as if Jacare is the one who has to take the fight, all Mousasi has to do is box from the outside and hide from the predictable overhand and not allowing Jacare to throw the overhand in an attempt to bumrush im and press him against the cage. I think fighting like he did against Latiffi would be bad, that constant low handed jab to stuff takedowns will only get you knocked out by Jacare, I think he should be more diverse since Jacarely never does the GSP takedown that lets you come in with a punch, he is usually the one transitioning from punching to takedowns and not countering with them.

Like to point in fact try to go with the Latiffi strategy. :}

Matt Mitrione must won the Bonus instead of Ben Rothwell IMO.

On September 08 2014 04:45 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 03 2014 21:53 Baalim wrote: I feel as if Jacare is the one who has to take the fight, all Mousasi has to do is box from the outside and hide from the predictable overhand and not allowing Jacare to throw the overhand in an attempt to bumrush im and press him against the cage. I think fighting like he did against Latiffi would be bad, that constant low handed jab to stuff takedowns will only get you knocked out by Jacare, I think he should be more diverse since Jacarely never does the GSP takedown that lets you come in with a punch, he is usually the one transitioning from punching to takedowns and not countering with them. Like to point in fact try to go with the Latiffi strategy. :}

I always considered Mousasi to have on the highest fighting IQs and Ive been proved absolutely wrong in his fights vs Machida and now Jacare, he fought like an absolute idiot, he fought exactly like vs Latiffi he didnt throw a single right hand after he was exhausted, he kept that ridiculous relaxed wide stance and throwing stupid jabs that never connected and instead of counter-countering Jacares predictable haymakers he just stepped backwards into the smaller cage and got easily dominated there as expected, so dissapointing