UFC FN 50: Souza vs. Mousasi - Page 3

On September 04 2014 11:07 alejandicto wrote: My final bets: - Mousasi (+225) - Soriano (+175) - Beal + Overeem (-200) - Oliveira by submission (+210)

Lentz is really good on the ground and generally extremely hard to finish. That bet on Oliveira seems really far off in value.

Not a believer in Mousasi, but that is a more personal preference. Has all the technical skills in the world, but I don't think he has the training regimen and is too laid back in the fight to go for point victories. I've always found it tough to bet on guys like that.

New semester at school seems difficult already, so I'm gonna scale back my betting for awhile, which will allow me to focus more on school work since I won't be thinking about who to bet on and wasting time doing research.

I only have two bets for this event, which are old bets: Mousasi +294 $20, and Oliveira -145 $20. I'll still be watching all the fights, obv.

My Chiesa bet I'm feeling less confident about now that I hear the media people on the countdown saying Lauzon has the striking advantage big if it stays on the feet. I thought Chiesa would have the power and speed advantage big time on the feet from what I've seen of Lauzon lately (one of my favorite fighters BTW), but maybe I'm wrong? Who's the last decent guy he out struck? Has he ever out-struck anyone decent besides tagging Guillard? These aren't rhetorical questions, I'm serious, I feel like I'm missing something or underestimating my boys standup. I know he is a fucking offensive wizard on the ground.

Edit: After thinking about this even more though, I think the cardio edge is another thing that's pretty big for the younger Chiesa. Most likely they clinch-wrestle for the TD on the feet and while Lauzon may win that battle in the first, I highly doubt he can do so in the 2nd and 3rd. As good as his guard is, I doubt he subs Chiesa past the 1st. That guy is a heavy wet blanket who is not gonna be very sweep-able or fall into a triangle or armbar very easily.

Lauzon is a slow moving target. He eats more punches than he throws.

As for the commentators for UFC events, most of them are just reading off teleprompters the entire time, so I don't believe much of what they say unless they're giving some sort of update. You'd think they'd be knowledgeable about stuff, but that's rarely the case.

185 lbs.: Jacare Souza (185) vs. Gegard Mousasi (186)
265 lbs.: Alistair Overeem (248) vs. Ben Rothwell (264)
265 lbs.: Matt Mitrione (255) vs. Derrick Lewis (264)
155 lbs.: Joe Lauzon (155) vs. Michael Chiesa (156)
Preliminary card:

145 lbs.: Nik Lentz (146) vs. Charles Oliveira (150)*
125 lbs.: John Moraga (126) vs. Justin Scoggins (126)
155 lbs.: Al Iaquinta (155) vs. Rodrigo Damm (156)
185 lbs.: Rafael Natal (185) vs. Chris Camozzi (185)
135 lbs.: Chris Beal (135) vs. Tateki Matsuda (135)
145 lbs.: Sean Soriano (145) vs. Chas Skelly (145)

*Charles Oliveira didn't attempt to cut the extra weight and forfeited 20% of his prize purse.

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Charles Oliveira blames missing weight on viral infection

"I was sick for the past weeks in Brazil, and I was pretty bad when I got to the United States," Oliveira told MMAFighting.com after the weigh-ins. "I couldn’t cut weight, and I’m not feeling well to cut weight, so that’s why I missed weight. I had high fever, headache. I think it was a viral infection. But I was the one who asked for this fight, so I couldn’t withdraw."

This is the second time Oliveira failed to make weight for a featherweight bout. In Sept. 2012, the Brazilian grappler weighed 146.4 pounds prior to his bout with Cub Swanson, which he lost via first-round knockout.

"I don’t know, let’s wait until tomorrow," he said when asked if the bad weight cut would be an issue during tomorrow’s UFC fight. "We’ll see."

just what I need to shove on Lentz, already thought he was a good bet before the weight ins

They're using the small 25 foot cage again tomorrow. The smaller cage usually results in more finishes.

I believe UFC 177 was the most recent event that was held in a smaller cage.

On September 05 2014 01:58 PuertoRican wrote: They're using the small 25 foot cage again tomorrow. The smaller cage usually results in more finishes. I believe UFC 177 was the most recent event that was held in a smaller cage.

Sweet. I think they should just perma move to smaller cage. Always more action.

On September 05 2014 02:23 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2014 01:58 PuertoRican wrote: They're using the small 25 foot cage again tomorrow. The smaller cage usually results in more finishes. I believe UFC 177 was the most recent event that was held in a smaller cage. Sweet. I think they should just perma move to smaller cage. Always more action.

more action but more "cage" action which is boring and it should also greatly benefit wrestlers... and fuck wrestlers

Such bullshit with this smaller cage. Seriously. Benefits the fuck out of Jacare. And makes this so much less of a sport. Does the NFL all of a sudden shrink the field for more hits? Poppy cock.

That's a damn fine fight night card lol.

Looking forward to like 80% of the fights here.

Past couple of months have been pretty lackluster from the UFC side of things.

Even Lentz vs Oliveira which is the 5th fight is still really good.

All the card is fucking good, I will definitely watch the entire event.

http://fightnomics.com/category/blog/ufc-cage-size-analysis/

Don't forget that this UFC card is today (Friday), not tomorrow (Saturday).

Also, I just updated the OP with the new start time for the main card. There's 6 fights on the prelim card, which still starts at 18:00 LP.net, but the main card now starts at 21:00 LP.net. All of the fights are on the same TV channel, so the prelim and main card stuff doesn't matter for this event anyway.

is this thing gonna show in Canada TV ???

@arielhelwani: Tonight's Nik Lentz vs. Charles Oliveira has been canceled, per UFC. Oliveira is sick (missed weight yesterday).

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Guess I'll put my Oliveira bet on Pat Curran at plus odds in his match tonight versus Patricio Pitbull.

lol, made a big deposit at 5dimes just for this fight, now I will have to bet like nuts to be able to cashout again...fuck me

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