UFC FN 50: Souza vs. Mousasi - Page 2

Watching Countdown now apparently Mousasi is training out of a smaller town (Leiden) in The Netherlands where his old friends help him out. That doesn't sound great.

Anybody tempted by -277 on Jacare?

I added a bet on Oliveira -145. Hope Lentz wins though.

Antonio Silva is going to beat Arlovski's face in. Thats all I know.

That sad gorilla won't even get joy out of it. He will just rush for a while then go back to his cage.

On September 02 2014 15:11 Minsk wrote: Antonio Silva is going to beat Arlovski's face in. Thats all I know.

You should know that this isnt the UFC FN 52 @ 13th sept thread, its the UFC FN 50 @ 5th Sept thread :D

Silva vs Arlovski card seems terrible tbh

On September 01 2014 18:05 Nazgul wrote: Overeem $2900 at -385 yay. Could get a freeroll already. That line came out so terribly off I bet it at -380, -385, and -395 for the max.

Overeem is so bad lol... would not touch his side with a ten foot pole.

Will Cosmo be correct once more, tune in

Wow... you can take Rothwell at +440 right now.

On September 02 2014 18:47 JonnyCosMo wrote: Wow... you can take Rothwell at +440 right now.

Would much rather take him by tko when that line comes out, which will probably be around +600. It's already +545 Rothwell ITD. There isn't any other way he wins that is above micro-percentages.

On September 02 2014 07:58 Nazgul wrote: Watching Countdown now apparently Mousasi is training out of a smaller town (Leiden) in The Netherlands where his old friends help him out. That doesn't sound great. Anybody tempted by -277 on Jacare? I added a bet on Oliveira -145. Hope Lentz wins though.

Jacare has overconfidence in his simple powerful striking, Mousasi is hard to hit and very analytical on his feet he will come prepared for those dumb slow hooks, i think it will come down on how fast Jacare realizes he is drawing dead on his feets and try to take it down, but also Mousasi has great TDD and underated BJJ, Jacare has also shown signs of mediocre cardio so if he doesnt manage to win the early rounds he might not be able to catch up, i think this fight will go the distance or Mousasi takes it by KO

On September 02 2014 18:04 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2014 18:05 Nazgul wrote: Overeem $2900 at -385 yay. Could get a freeroll already. That line came out so terribly off I bet it at -380, -385, and -395 for the max. Overeem is so bad lol... would not touch his side with a ten foot pole.

Jackson's Reem will probably be amazing, we are going to watch the raise of the next title contender here

You cant teach someone to enjoy getting hit in the face...

they either have it or they dont

On September 03 2014 02:42 JonnyCosMo wrote: You cant teach someone to enjoy getting hit in the face... they either have it or they dont

Overeems 2 recent losses had nothing to do about not liking being hit on the face... they were both related to his cardio some mma striking holes and being careless, he showed a much improved cardio and cautioness against Mir and now he is even more lean and under Greg Jacksons instruction, the man who gave Browne the key to get past Overeems shitty elbows out K1 guard.

And before those 2 lossses he was on a 10 win streak, and in those casualties included the guy who is about to fight for the HW title fwiw

Overeem by decision is at +500, I think that is Ev+ since Overeem is now more cautious and also training with Jackson.

Oliveira by submission at +220 seems like a good bet too.

UFC Fight Night 50 main card moved to 10 PM ET, approximately same time as Bellator 123 main card concludes

"Basically, what this means is that the conclusion of Bellator 123, which features Pat Curran and Patricio Pitbull in the main event, is likely to end at approximately 10 PM ET, so viewers who want to catch both main cards can probably do so. The only real "snag" per se is for those who will flip channels back-and-forth between Bellator's main event and the rather strong UFC prelims."

On September 02 2014 22:26 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2014 07:58 Nazgul wrote: Watching Countdown now apparently Mousasi is training out of a smaller town (Leiden) in The Netherlands where his old friends help him out. That doesn't sound great. Anybody tempted by -277 on Jacare? I added a bet on Oliveira -145. Hope Lentz wins though. Jacare has overconfidence in his simple powerful striking, Mousasi is hard to hit and very analytical on his feet he will come prepared for those dumb slow hooks, i think it will come down on how fast Jacare realizes he is drawing dead on his feets and try to take it down, but also Mousasi has great TDD and underated BJJ, Jacare has also shown signs of mediocre cardio so if he doesnt manage to win the early rounds he might not be able to catch up, i think this fight will go the distance or Mousasi takes it by KO

Mousasi has also shown poor cardio when forced to grapple. He also gassed hard vs Mo & Ovince st. Puerxe or w/e. Also I definitely wouldn't say Mousasi has great TDD. I'd say slightly above average.

In the countdown Mousasi mentioned working on his striking a lot and distance, so I think mousasi will try to stay on the outside and out box Jacare. Kind of like he did vs Latiff, but more active since he won't be hurt. Which is actually a pretty smart game plan, but would be boring as fuck.

I feel as if Jacare is the one who has to take the fight, all Mousasi has to do is box from the outside and hide from the predictable overhand and not allowing Jacare to throw the overhand in an attempt to bumrush im and press him against the cage.

I think fighting like he did against Latiffi would be bad, that constant low handed jab to stuff takedowns will only get you knocked out by Jacare, I think he should be more diverse since Jacarely never does the GSP takedown that lets you come in with a punch, he is usually the one transitioning from punching to takedowns and not countering with them.

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I think that Mousasi has a good shot.
I also think that Michael Chiesa is really good.

My final bets:

- Mousasi (+225)
- Soriano (+175)
- Beal + Overeem (-200)
- Oliveira by submission (+210)

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