[DotA] The International 4 - Page 8

On July 15 2014 13:41 flounder44 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2014 10:39 mnj wrote:   On July 15 2014 03:02 cariadon wrote: Fnatic needs like Slickz to become their carry. Loda worst carry player in Ti4 though ! woo eg said they basically split 50% of their games when scrimming so it was huge surprise to see A being knocked out. but the entire internet is results oriented soo scrims are for trying new strats out.. so take them with a grain of salt. The format is legit but its not as good as bo3 and alliance easily coulda made a deep run if they made it past round robin.. its just that the teams are so close this year and alliance lost too many games the first day. A lot of the games in the groups coulda gone either way and A is no exception, just watch their last match against the favorites eg. Having said that yea loda made some questionable plays not getting bkb etc. I am hoping to see na'vi in the GF in standard ti fashion.

in puppey's own words, they might have to actually play dota this year

LODA is a fucking noob.

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newbee rollin from what ive seen so far

lulz Lower bracket will be a massacre

even though i've watched a ton of dota this week like 50% of the group stage and the bracket seedings, feel free to post any "must watch" games

just in case ppl wanna watch some games on youtube this is what i use since you can opt for html5 instead of flash (longer battery life/more efficient for those with laptops)

https://www.youtube.com/user/Euro2012Mecze

Here's a few

Newbee vs Titan G2
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EG vs Alliance
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mouz vs Fnatic
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mouz vs fnatic?
that was a pretty bad game bro. Only interesting thing is the ending

maybe I got the game mixed up with the C9 game. dunno, gonna have to rewatch

Fnatic vs C9
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nah u got it right, mouz vs fnatic was awesome

GUYS SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY JUGGERNAUT EVER GETS PICKED IN DOTA2 PLEASE

dk vs eg sup jug worked out well in a push strat

What's wrong with juggernaut? healing ward is insane, magic immunity and a really good ultimate.

I'm not saying he's OP but situationally he's very strong.

On July 16 2014 21:41 mnj wrote: GUYS SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY JUGGERNAUT EVER GETS PICKED IN DOTA2 PLEASE

dk run him as a support
ward for pushes
spin, ultimate for early ganks+jungle catchup
then transition him into straight core with 5 pos supporting with scepter and dagger
worked rly well so far, they pick him vs tinker a lot

On July 16 2014 21:41 mnj wrote: GUYS SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY JUGGERNAUT EVER GETS PICKED IN DOTA2 PLEASE

omnislash gets strong with attack speed, especially with already having the fastest BAT in the game (aside from ult'd alchemist) and a built in crit
healing ward is insanely strong for pushing and can be a nuisance for the other team during team fights
spin is super good early game and late game for magic immunity (and also as a semi counter to stupid phoenix)

only flaw is his lack of mobility and his kinda low stats (and you always get aghs anyway so whatever)

ninja edit - he just doesn't have a spot in the meta ATM so he's rarely picked up

Juggernaut is great for pushes. I think Fnatic ran him with Lone Druid and the bear went from like 100 hp to max in seconds. Healing ward is fantastic.

so to summarize, you guys love a healing support that helps extend pushes, and this is enough in certain lineups to warrant jugg as a pickup?

pretty much 2 teams picked him DK and Fnatic iirc, but i just remember thinking from experience, that Jugg does alot of things ok, but none too well and remember just hoping he wouldn't have to carry (and he never had to)

If you want to play a good Juggernaut do the exact opposite of what Loda does, he is the worst on that hero.

newbee baby!~!~!

On July 17 2014 19:32 cariadon wrote: If you want to play a good Juggernaut do the exact opposite of what Loda does, he is the worst on that hero.

hes 23-5 in pro matches on Juggernaut, 82% win rate
maybe he knows a bit more then you