2014 Isla Vista shootings

Holy shit, I've just read about the story.

Apparently a rich, narcissistic kid posts some stupid shit last week on one of big internet forums (bodybuilding.com), whining that he's a 22 year old virgin and that no girl wants him, etc. etc. Kid obvious has problems with himself, whole story in the links - noone took him seriously though and yesterday he went on a killing spree, murdering 6 people and heavily injuring 7 more.

Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...e-shooting-near-UC-Santa-Barbara.html
Google cache links from bodybuilding:
"I'm tired of seeing losers with hot chicks"
and
"Why do girls hate me so much? (ElliotRodger)(Youtube)"

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prostitution should be legal. he shouldnt of had to gone through all that loneliness for over a decade. whattafuck
i know this one kid who is 14 years old and he has cancer, terminal cancer and hes about to die and his only wish is to have sex. But adults arent allowed to have sex with 14 year olds. The friends of this kid get a prostitute to have sex with the dying teenager. Is pedophilia really that wrong here? Because that women is doing pedophilia. I dont think its wrong, watafuck. He just wanted to have sex before he died. I can relate to this kid because Ive never had a girlfriend. Ive traveled to foreign countries to fuck bitches legally, I have to thank poker for that.

That is just incredibly sad I can't imagine how he turned out to be this way. That video he posted the day before is so fucked up http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...UC-Santa-Barbara.html#v-3586122311001

On May 24 2014 16:25 JosephCalgary wrote: prostitution should be legal. he shouldnt of had to gone through all that loneliness for over a decade. whattafuck i know this one kid who is 14 years old and he has cancer, terminal cancer and hes about to die and his only wish is to have sex. But adults arent allowed to have sex with 14 year olds. The friends of this kid get a prostitute to have sex with the dying teenager. Is pedophilia really that wrong here? Because that women is doing pedophilia. I dont think its wrong, watafuck. He just wanted to have sex before he died. I can relate to this kid because Ive never had a girlfriend. Ive traveled to foreign countries to fuck bitches legally, I have to thank poker for that.

Not really the reply I was expecting to read. But lol, there is a decent point somewhere in there.

what a faggot, how the heck he owns a bmw and can't fuck bitches ???? wtffff

I dont even want to think how much torment this guy's gone through due to his own perception of the world.

i feel so bad for the victims.

edit: wow he even tried learning pickup. i have a friend like this who i truly wish i never met. he's always down and miserable and over a span of 2 years i've tried to keep our contact minimal. i'm not sure if this is the right response though.

if i saw that video in isolation of today's massacre, i would be 100% positive that was some guy's internet troll persona. like i wouldn't even consider the possibility that it might be someone who is being serious...

jesus lol....

first world problems

Wiki page on the accident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_shootings

On May 24 2014 17:14 drone666 wrote: first world problems

I hope you don't actually think these people died cause he was a virgin.

Wow this is terrible

Lol that video that Nazgul just linked...like holy shit....

The crime you have made against me, I'm God, etc etc. Really fucked up, nobody in his right minds can talk like that, unless he is Gnarly level troll. Also that laugh...

He isnt even bad looking or anything - with a BMW like that and $$ from his daddy, it should have been easy

its frustrating that his parents reported him to the police, and the police failed to prevent anything. Obviously they cant go all police state on the kid, but possibly just making sure he doesnt have access to guns and stuff could have helped, or a putting him on a psychiatric hold pending a review from an actual psychotherapist, not just some police officer.
Sucks that his parents made a very hard decision to basically call the cops on their own son and it didnt help.

Being shot by some random asshole kid youve never talked to must be one of the most fucking frustrating ways to die..

On May 24 2014 17:41 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2014 17:14 drone666 wrote: first world problems I hope you don't actually think these people died cause he was a virgin.

people died because of the same reason why he was a virgin, he was a freaking lunatic
he wasnt a bad looking guy, owns a BMW, lots of money probably, the only reason why he prob couldn't get laid is because he was too crazy to hold a normal 5 min conversation with a girl

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...-victims-home-140-page-manifesto.html

Tragic for the victims and families involved. Also sad that he wasn't getting the help he obviously needed.

Looking at his videos.. It's all so premeditated and phony, It's like he's reading a script. All his videos seem to be made for the purpose of feeding the drama during the aftermath.

He claims that he killed all these people because of a disgust for humanity etc.. but it's clear that he did it all for attention. I see these people on youtube calling him things like Hannibal Lecter in the comments, that's exactly how he would like to be perceived as - instead of a socially awkward, sexually frustrated little man. It wouldn't surprise me if Hollywood made a movie about this, it would be his dream come true.

On May 24 2014 18:27 k4ir0s wrote: Looking at his videos.. It's all so premeditated and phony, It's like he's reading a script. All his videos seem to be made for the purpose of feeding the drama during the aftermath. He claims that he killed all these people because of a disgust for humanity etc.. but it's clear that he did it all for attention. I see these people on youtube calling him things like Hannibal Lecter in the comments, that's exactly how he would like to be perceived as - instead of a socially awkward, sexually frustrated little man. It wouldn't surprise me if Hollywood made a movie about this, it would be his dream come true.

that laugh in the video is so absurd

any pics of the hot girls?

If you check his youtube page, a few weeks ago it says "I took down my video logs temporarily, because they were worrying my family" or something like that... Pretty sad that people actually suspected something was wrong but couldnt do anything about it

Dont know what to think about all the videos, they seem so fake but he did go through with it. Some of the vids made me think he'd been watching American Psycho too many times (cadence, pronounciation etc).

On May 24 2014 18:02 milkman wrote: its frustrating that his parents reported him to the police, and the police failed to prevent anything. Obviously they cant go all police state on the kid, but possibly just making sure he doesnt have access to guns and stuff could have helped, or a putting him on a psychiatric hold pending a review from an actual psychotherapist, not just some police officer. Sucks that his parents made a very hard decision to basically call the cops on their own son and it didnt help. Being shot by some random asshole kid youve never talked to must be one of the most fucking frustrating ways to die..

Wasn't like he killed 70 people duel wielding AK-47s in a mall. Could have easily killed 6+ people with a basic kitchen knife especially if he kept luring people back to his apartment. Hell, take a hammer or nail gun and those will work too. Wouldn't surprise me if the people found dead in his apartment were prostitutes.

On May 24 2014 19:11 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2014 18:27 k4ir0s wrote: Looking at his videos.. It's all so premeditated and phony, It's like he's reading a script. All his videos seem to be made for the purpose of feeding the drama during the aftermath. He claims that he killed all these people because of a disgust for humanity etc.. but it's clear that he did it all for attention. I see these people on youtube calling him things like Hannibal Lecter in the comments, that's exactly how he would like to be perceived as - instead of a socially awkward, sexually frustrated little man. It wouldn't surprise me if Hollywood made a movie about this, it would be his dream come true. that laugh in the video is so absurd

It was surprising to hear it as it felt really contrived and forced. Thinking about it though, i've never heard anyone genuinely laugh that way. Was it for show? Where did he get the idea from? Just imagine sitting in that car and laughing like that and where your head needs to be for that laugh to genuinely sound that way.

What gets me is that this is now an excuse to showcase that women are always the target of violence. The kid wrote in his manifesto that his first phase was to target men.

Whamm, they were fat girls. (i believe were is correct here, I'm not sure)

The kid obviously had mental issues, but with the plethora of articles blaming ALL MEN, mgtow, mra's, pua's, introvers, straights, and whites, even though he was half asian, it's becoming harder and harder to actually be able to socialize with people without them thinking I'm going to shoot them up just because I'm extremely introverted. My own sister told my parents that they need to worry about me because I'm introverted.

Not to mention that because of the massive social media attention this is getting, there will be more and more women shaming men for being men, driving them to feel the same way this kid did. Then, the double whammy of copy cat killers.

Well, don't listen to all that stuff as it doesn't matter. There's a large % of people that just want to hear shit in the news. They don't care about the facts, quality of the news or genuine implications of what they're being exposed to. It's why TV soaps, celeb mags and news sources like the daily mail still exist.

IIRC, 1 in 4 people are introverts. Just say that you don't see 25% of the population plotting to torture, flay and murder people. Introverts tend not to want to socialise and instead relish alone time. I'm very introverted and realising this has made me realise how strikingly different I experience things from other people. Nothing to worry about though.

This guy was completely obsessed with physical beauty, posessiveness, money and with sex/intimacy being the ultimate achievement/status symbol. I think its fascinating how he was blindly and totally consumed by it and then he proceeded to kill and cause suffering to "even the score" which makes no sense. The only score there was to keep was against himself. Doubt he had a single shred of warmth to his personality whatsoever.

On May 24 2014 17:41 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2014 17:14 drone666 wrote: first world problems I hope you don't actually think these people died cause he was a virgin.

certainly not but it probably contributed.

There is a lot of social stigma that leads to low self steem

On May 24 2014 20:42 TianYuan wrote: If you check his youtube page, a few weeks ago it says "I took down my video logs temporarily, because they were worrying my family" or something like that... Pretty sad that people actually suspected something was wrong but couldnt do anything about it Dont know what to think about all the videos, they seem so fake but he did go through with it. Some of the vids made me think he'd been watching American Psycho too many times (cadence, pronounciation etc).

yea i thought the same thing. the shit he was saying sounded like lines from a cheesy movie script.

The thing that creeped me out the most was his eyes tho. Everything else seemed fake etc.

A closet homosexual who probably did a lot of cocaine.

There's nothing special about a socially akward person having trouble getting a girlfriend and being really frustrated about it. That's exactly what happened to me. But going on a killing spree because of it?? wtf?? Why didn't he just start a looks or game thread on LP =/

On May 25 2014 01:20 Floofy wrote: There's nothing special about a socially akward person having trouble getting a girlfriend and being really frustrated about it. That's exactly what happened to me. But going on a killing spree because of it?? wtf?? Why didn't he just start a looks or game thread on LP =/

Didn't expect this thread to be fun, well done.
Couldn't bring myself to reading or watching what this retard had to say.

Has anyone seen Gnarly around!! Was this him?!? Saw Rodgers posts on bodybuilding.com and they sound EXACTLY the same.


Dam I used to party in IV all the time when I went to cal poly SLO for college. Couldn't imagine being out on Friday night partying having fun and then just getting shot by some jealous loser; how awful. This killer was a creep loser who should have just done himself in- it was his failure.

And really I just gotta LOL at this kid. I can see how frustrating it would be going to Santa Barbara and getting no pussy. The girls are everywhere in IV and all hot. One of the best spots on the west coast for girls. Only place better is Tempe/Scottsdale in Arizona. This kid is competing with athletes and Greeks he never had a chance. Most of the hot fun girls join sororities out there and mostly party with other fraternities and this kid had no friends. I doubt he got into a single party his whole time there. And at 22 that means he went all 4 years of his college career to one of the biggest party schools in California/USA without being able to participate at all. Never once joining in the fun or even making a simple friend, but seeing what he wants all around him. I can understand the suicidal self loathing and misguided hatred. The extreme sense of worthlessness and abject failure as a man he had to endure. Most of those losers just go play WoW though so this guy must have been kinda crazy as well.

And what did he expect; scrawny 135 lb pound half Asian kid who dresses like a fag and thinks he is hot shit because dad bought him a BMW Obviously he got no ass. Probably a 3 inch wang to boot.

On May 24 2014 16:33 Nazgul wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...UC-Santa-Barbara.html#v-3586122311001

Holy shit lol, narcissistic psychopathy at it's best.

"I'm the perfect gentlemen"

"I'm gonna slaughter a bunch of people I've never even met"

kek

On May 25 2014 03:42 traxamillion wrote: And what did he expect; scrawny 135 lb pound half Asian kid who dresses like a fag and thinks he is hot shit because dad bought him a BMW Obviously he got no ass. Probably a 3 inch wang to boot.

gg trax

On May 25 2014 03:42 traxamillion wrote: Has anyone seen Gnarly around!! Was this him?!? Saw Rodgers posts on bodybuilding.com and they sound EXACTLY the same. Dam I used to party in IV all the time when I went to cal poly SLO for college. Couldn't imagine being out on Friday night partying having fun and then just getting shot by some jealous loser; how awful. This killer was a creep loser who should have just done himself in- it was his failure. And really I just gotta LOL at this kid. I can see how frustrating it would be going to Santa Barbara and getting no pussy. The girls are everywhere in IV and all hot. One of the best spots on the west coast for girls. Only place better is Tempe/Scottsdale in Arizona. This kid is competing with athletes and Greeks he never had a chance. Most of the hot fun girls join sororities out there and mostly party with other fraternities and this kid had no friends. I doubt he got into a single party his whole time there. And at 22 that means he went all 4 years of his college career to one of the biggest party schools in California/USA without being able to participate at all. Never once joining in the fun or even making a simple friend, but seeing what he wants all around him. I can understand the suicidal self loathing and misguided hatred. The extreme sense of worthlessness and abject failure as a man he had to endure. Most of those losers just go play WoW though so this guy must have been kinda crazy as well. And what did he expect; scrawny 135 lb pound half Asian kid who dresses like a fag and thinks he is hot shit because dad bought him a BMW Obviously he got no ass. Probably a 3 inch wang to boot.

Hey trax
;^)

Ofc you'd lol at a kid who killed a handful of people. I can't wait until you laugh when it's one of your own. ;^D

But I digress, this kid was mentally ill. He did have some friends, he did go to some parties, after all, he got his ass beat the fuck down at them. I blame his parents, for telling him at such a young age that he wasn't to be, that the only reason he is alive is because his mother was sick which made the birth control ineffective and decided to have some fun. Don't you think that's a bit fucked up to tell your child? Probably stressed his brain out to the point of no return.

Maybe that's how you came to be, trax... I remember your mom was feeling a little under the weather. Should people be worried about you?

On May 25 2014 03:42 traxamillion wrote: Most of those losers just go play WoW though

Hey, fuck you, buddy :D

Nah , seriously thought, this isn't even something to be surprised about considering the reality and what society pushes people to, there are many stigmas passively created, its only natural that they would lead to this shit.

I don't think a hooker would help the case too, guy was obviously self-loathing which led him to become a misanthrope. What he needed was a girlfriend or even some good friends for that matter.

and trax, seriously that isn't a laughable matter at this point the number of these types of scenarios will only raise, this guy was a virgin, next one will be a social outcast, next one will kill his friend cuz he's cooler than him etc.
Depression is one of the biggest health issues in the modern world as we get less and less satisfaction.

P.S. Bodybuilding post and replies are hilarious tho

Buys BMW Expects the world to mire.

cant help it

On May 25 2014 03:42 traxamillion wrote: And what did he expect; scrawny 135 lb pound half Asian kid who dresses like a fag and thinks he is hot shit because dad bought him a BMW Obviously he got no ass. Probably a 3 inch wang to boot.

sure, hitting the gym/clothes would have helped that guy, but i don't think looks is this guy's main problem. I think hes probably good looking overall, and anyways tons of ugly guys gets pussy. He was aspergers, meaning he was probably very socially akward... But yea, since i gained like 20 lbs of muscle i def see a difference with girls. Being 190 lbs with low body fat helps.

what a sad event, condolences to the victims' families.

Full version of his first Bodybuilding.com topic; http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired...icks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html

https://twitter.com/search?q=white+male+terrorist

Sigh.

On May 25 2014 13:19 Gnarly wrote: https://twitter.com/search?q=white+male+terrorist Sigh.

Sam. ‏@SamSupreme_ May 24 A white male opens fire and kills. They said he had mental issues. If he was black he would be a murderer, or Asian would be a terrorist

I love and hate how retarded these people are.

yeah white males really have so much to whine about
jesus fucking christ

On May 25 2014 08:12 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2014 03:42 traxamillion wrote: Has anyone seen Gnarly around!! Was this him?!? Saw Rodgers posts on bodybuilding.com and they sound EXACTLY the same. Dam I used to party in IV all the time when I went to cal poly SLO for college. Couldn't imagine being out on Friday night partying having fun and then just getting shot by some jealous loser; how awful. This killer was a creep loser who should have just done himself in- it was his failure. And really I just gotta LOL at this kid. I can see how frustrating it would be going to Santa Barbara and getting no pussy. The girls are everywhere in IV and all hot. One of the best spots on the west coast for girls. Only place better is Tempe/Scottsdale in Arizona. This kid is competing with athletes and Greeks he never had a chance. Most of the hot fun girls join sororities out there and mostly party with other fraternities and this kid had no friends. I doubt he got into a single party his whole time there. And at 22 that means he went all 4 years of his college career to one of the biggest party schools in California/USA without being able to participate at all. Never once joining in the fun or even making a simple friend, but seeing what he wants all around him. I can understand the suicidal self loathing and misguided hatred. The extreme sense of worthlessness and abject failure as a man he had to endure. Most of those losers just go play WoW though so this guy must have been kinda crazy as well. And what did he expect; scrawny 135 lb pound half Asian kid who dresses like a fag and thinks he is hot shit because dad bought him a BMW Obviously he got no ass. Probably a 3 inch wang to boot. Hey trax ;^) Ofc you'd lol at a kid who killed a handful of people. I can't wait until you laugh when it's one of your own. ;^D But I digress, this kid was mentally ill. He did have some friends, he did go to some parties, after all, he got his ass beat the fuck down at them. I blame his parents, for telling him at such a young age that he wasn't to be, that the only reason he is alive is because his mother was sick which made the birth control ineffective and decided to have some fun. Don't you think that's a bit fucked up to tell your child? Probably stressed his brain out to the point of no return. Maybe that's how you came to be, trax... I remember your mom was feeling a little under the weather. Should people be worried about you?

I was born before my parents were married (or at least conceived might have been born after) so yea it is entirely possible I was unplanned or even an accident I don't know never really thought about it. I'm here now so why would I care. I don't worry too much about all that existential stuff and enjoy life. I don't care whether my parents planned for me or wanted me I just care that I made it.


Nice of you wishing death on my future children though. I got banned for calling you a loser maybe you can get banned for wishing death on my family.

It's not about white males whining, the dude was HALF ASIAN.

Floofy upped his looks & game, well done!

LPs top success stories rivalled by few, e.g when Neilly pays back his debt.

On May 25 2014 11:44 Defrag wrote: Full version of his first Bodybuilding.com topic; http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired...icks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html

For a moment I thought I was reading BBV from 2p2 lol

On May 25 2014 11:44 Defrag wrote: Full version of his first Bodybuilding.com topic; http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired...icks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html

that was pure gold lol

This kid so sooooooooooo normal just got set up with a bad environment and didn't come across the key before it was too late. Really sad story for the all parties involved.

On May 24 2014 18:02 milkman wrote: its frustrating that his parents reported him to the police, and the police failed to prevent anything. Obviously they cant go all police state on the kid, but possibly just making sure he doesnt have access to guns and stuff could have helped, or a putting him on a psychiatric hold pending a review from an actual psychotherapist, not just some police officer. Sucks that his parents made a very hard decision to basically call the cops on their own son and it didnt help. Being shot by some random asshole kid youve never talked to must be one of the most fucking frustrating ways to die..

this is the weirdest thing about this. the story kind of touches on a lot of angles.

preemptive +1 to if i saw this kids vids out of context i'd think it was some kind of performance art or immature trolling

but yeah, just about every news source makes it sound as if the kids' parents reported him to the police, sent him to psychiatrists and otherwise did everything in their power to seek help for him. it doesn't appear as if his family was in denial that he was psychotic. i guess it brings up more questions, such as, what can the police really do. i mean, they can talk to him, search his room or whatever but if they find no weapons and he doesn't make any threats while they're around they can't put 24/7 surveillance on someone just because their parents say they might be dangerous.

i think everyone grew up or knew someone who was really borderline crazy or you could think may be capable of something like this, but obviously the vast majority don't carry it out. i'm really curious how he got access to the guns - i'm not 100% on how the law is in California but iirc it's extremely difficult to even purchase a pistol in that state. i'm trying to imagine if i knew this kid IRL how i'd think of him. i really don't think i'd take his videos and such seriously.

only read snapshots of this guys 'manifesto' but holy s--- was he disturbed. i find all the anti-asian racism particularly bizarre as he's half chinese.

I'm guessing he probably never even tried to really pursue girls, probably waiting for some sort of "moment" where he has an "in" and it just happens automatically. I was watching some lame TV drama last night and there's this nerdy new kid at school, and these hot girls are inexplicably hitting on him. At first I thought it was some sort of troll, like the girls were going to make fun of him at the prom later or whatever. But no, these bombshells genuinely want his dick. But that shits not realistic. My guess is he probably watched a lot of crap like that and thought thats how it works. Go to school, make eye contact with a cheerleader in math class, and suddenly she's hitting on you and winking, fade to party getting drunk, fade to bedroom with her head bobbing up and down in your lap, etc. He probably has no idea what it means to get into a relationship with someone. And what's annoying is that he's not even ugly looking or anything. He could have easily found a 6 or maybe even a 7 to date him, which is what leads me to think he never even tried.

Oh well at least he's dead now, fuck him.

Seems like most of it likely stems from childhood. Terrible parents and abandonment issues. Some unsubstantiated claims of really nasty abuse from his step-mom would seem to support his hatred for hot women. His manifesto even says that his dad must be the type to get a lot of women bc it was so easy for him to get a hot live-in girlfriend months after the divorce of his parents. He doesn't even consider the possibility that his dad had an affair with this woman and then she moved in. Also, every single traumatic event in his manifesto is prepared with nothing. In other words his parents never prepared him for any event, so scary trauma lurked around every corner in his childhood. (His mom told him he was going to summer camp the morning that he was to go for a week or w/e at a young age, his dad told him this lady is moving in with us before he ever met her, etc) Stuff like that in childhood ruins people's perceptions. Not saying he wasn't unstable due to chemical imbalances or w/e too, but his parents are definitely to blame, because of all of the neglect.

Some more neglect examples: when he was 4 years old on a family vacation he was left at the bottom of a tall castle tower while 4 adults went to the top and he touched a cactus while they were up there and got hurt. Also when his brother was 1 year old at a party at their house the kid wandered over to the pool, fell in and started drowning. No parent noticed and he saved his life. Just terrible parenting all around.

Regarding police/parents reporting, seems like after a kid started saying he was gonna kill a bunch of ppl on his youtube channel, the police and his parents could have easily subscribed to his channel just in case it happened again. And he did upload another video 2 hours before any killing, so it all could have been prevented in that last cry for attention.

On May 27 2014 15:34 thewh00sel wrote: Seems like most of it likely stems from childhood. Terrible parents and abandonment issues. Some unsubstantiated claims of really nasty abuse from his step-mom would seem to support his hatred for hot women...Regarding police/parents reporting, seems like after a kid started saying he was gonna kill a bunch of ppl on his youtube channel, the police and his parents could have easily subscribed to his channel just in case it happened again. And he did upload another video 2 hours before any killing, so it all could have been prevented in that last cry for attention.

It's possible that his lifestyle/childhood played an issue but I think there's also room to give credit to his being mentally ill from the get go. There's a lot of people with poor lifestyles and abusive home lives who don't turn to murder obviously.

Didn't see anything about abusive step-mom, and without jumping to conclusions an abusive mother or mother figure does seem to be common in serial killers / spree killers who target women - although it is a bit odd as this guy was so whacked that it appeared he was willing to kill just about anybody and only slightly preferred a certain demographic target.

I recall reading that his parents were subscribed to his youtube channel, or they otherwise came across it which led to them first calling the police. Did he make a new youtube channel for the more recent videos? I honestly have no idea, but if not you're right that they definitely dropped the ball not paying attention to his social media.

iirc, the last video he posted was actually set up specifically to upload right before he went on to commit the killings so it wasn't a lot of forewarning in that regard.