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Target-x17   Canada. Sep 18 2013 19:22. Posts 1027

I was a little bored last night and inspired so I tried to play every reg at the lower hu stakes on stars. My question is how did 9/10 regs know to avoid me? I thought stars blocked all the tracking sites I had supernova hidden and no pic showing so im just curious how they knew to get action. I am up quite a bit hu on heater stats if they can track me but how do they do it?

Ironically it worked out because I found a super fish after only 1 reg giving me action. Who started his table and then wanted to move up stakes and I feel like no hu reg would ever sit vs someone who starts a table anymore and miss huge fish like this sometimes. But if they know not to play me hu how come they cant track a huge fish like him just so confused.

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f u bw rock 

Target-x17   Canada. Sep 18 2013 19:30. Posts 1027

hum after asking someone maybe they snap leave because I buy in full stack? But should still be like 90% of people...

f u bw rock 

Mortensen8   Chad. Sep 18 2013 19:32. Posts 1841

Maybe they just looked at your tourney stats or have seen you around.

Rear naked woke 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 18 2013 19:36. Posts 15163

yeah use tourney stats and it's not hard to see after a few hands if the person's a reg. Plus they see you on more tables in lobby/multitabling = autoregspot.
Nowadays fish show their 3 stars a lot too so they'll get suspicious when you hide both status and hide from search feature, fish don't do that.

93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 18 2013 19:37. Posts 15163

So drop down to silverstar, one table byu in for 58bb throw in silly plays and you'll get action no problem

93% Sure!  

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Sep 18 2013 19:48. Posts 8648

someone on this site pm'd me a while back saying there's a workaround for stars PTR but it's limited to results before the shutdown (feb 2012 iirc). so if you have reasonable cashgame stats from before then maybe that's what they're seeing somehow?

Truck-Crash Life 

rogier   Netherlands. Sep 18 2013 19:54. Posts 1528

apparently theres some kind of new PTR. No idea what the adress is, but i've seen pics on 2p2...


Target-x17   Canada. Sep 18 2013 19:55. Posts 1027

A little digging is there was a russian. pkt he got taken down but maybe moved. Alot of these hu guys were russian to be honest

f u bw rock 

drone666   Brasil. Sep 18 2013 20:27. Posts 1822

not really sure why they don't give you action, everytime I tred reg action at nl200 I found ( nl100 is a little harder )
and the russian PTR only tracks 2013 I think

don't remember if they were russians tho
the russians are the worst bumhunters scumbags, they all use scripts to auto sit the fish in 6 max tables, they will hit and run, grim you and do whatever they can to have an advantage

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 18/09/2013 20:29

Target-x17   Canada. Sep 18 2013 20:58. Posts 1027

well was sitting at nnl50 to start. I have no doubt in my mind id get easy action at nl200

f u bw rock 

drone666   Brasil. Sep 18 2013 21:24. Posts 1822

well, it's like, the easier they get action from fish, harder they will give you action
I only give regs action at nl100 if I'm trying to learn, when I'm too bored to wait too much or want to multitable instead of playing fishs, because if you are playing them and leave when you get some fish they will whine like a baby

Dont listen to anything I say 

handbanana21   United States. Sep 19 2013 03:40. Posts 3037

dont play hu at 50nl rake is too high


MadeInPolanD   Poland. Sep 19 2013 04:51. Posts 1383

from your screen:
http://gyazo.com/ef24910a4b9bf3c695a293b8ad1bbbf2

you wrote to someone on skype:

"found some fishys while i was drunk for some hu action"


So nice drunken ramblings in this topic~

Make it rain$$$ 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Sep 19 2013 04:56. Posts 8648

took madeinpoland a while to find the bumhunter thread

Truck-Crash Life 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Sep 19 2013 05:03. Posts 6374

iTs NoT bEcAuSe YoU aRe A rEg BuT bEcAuSe YoU aRe Gay

ban baal 

MadeInPolanD   Poland. Sep 19 2013 05:13. Posts 1383


  On September 19 2013 03:56 bigredhoss wrote:
took madeinpoland a while to find the bumhunter thread



my phone was off

Make it rain$$$ 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 19 2013 09:33. Posts 5108

Why havent Stars just closed their joke of a bumhunter HU lobby yet

(Or saving 4-6 tables per limit so we could get some really interesting HU matches again)

:D 

MadeInPolanD   Poland. Sep 19 2013 10:16. Posts 1383


  On September 19 2013 08:33 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Why havent Stars just closed their joke of a bumhunter HU lobby yet

(Or saving 4-6 tables per limit so we could get some really interesting HU matches again)



cause at NL100 when regs play each other rake takes ~3 buy ins in 1k hands off the table

Make it rain$$$ 

Fayth    Canada. Sep 19 2013 11:25. Posts 10085

NL100 is still very well beatable by not bumhunting

and yeah lots of regulars just won't play anyone who sits with 100bb (which is dumb as fuck cuz sometimes you get huge donks or tilted reg buyin in for 100bb)

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 19 2013 12:38. Posts 9634

buy in for 68.3bbs should work


drone666   Brasil. Sep 19 2013 13:11. Posts 1822


  On September 19 2013 02:40 handbanana21 wrote:
dont play hu at 50nl rake is too high



the rake is perfectly beatable at nl50
there's a few regs who only play nl50 and they have like 7ptbb over 200k hands



  On September 19 2013 08:33 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Why havent Stars just closed their joke of a bumhunter HU lobby yet

(Or saving 4-6 tables per limit so we could get some really interesting HU matches again)



Stars will probably implement something like KOTH next year, but it's not so easy as you think
check the 2+2 thread where they were discussing the HU lobby, pure KOTH will suck hard on stars, I'm pretty sure that would be a disaster

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58/...y-changes-feedback-requested-1364689/

Partypoker anonymous lobby would be decent if they weren't stupid
the anonymous lobby only have 25 tables each limit, and it comes first then the normal lobby so you can get more action there, you can "battle" for the tables, but instead of booting the player who is sitout, they just close the table when there's 2 players and there's no game going on, lol
so the russians scumbags don't give you action and don't leave the table

same shit is happening on microgaming, there's only 3 tables per limit and they are all anonymous, you can sit and battle to steal the table, but players don't get boot for being sitout and they just keep siting out forever and shut down your action

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 19/09/2013 13:12

MadeInPolanD   Poland. Sep 19 2013 13:18. Posts 1383


  On September 19 2013 12:11 drone666 wrote:
Show nested quote +



the rake is perfectly beatable at nl50
there's a few regs who only play nl50 and they have like 7ptbb over 200k hands





im sure they play vs regs and have 7ptbb on NL50 :D:D


  On September 19 2013 10:25 Fayth wrote:
NL100 is still very well beatable by not bumhunting




can you give your winrate playing regs on NL100? ( if its even possible, maybe with some filters tweaking? )

Make it rain$$$Last edit: 19/09/2013 13:23

Fayth    Canada. Sep 19 2013 14:37. Posts 10085

I don't think it's possible to filter

but really madeinpoland if you wanna improve against regulars you have to start playing them

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -FloofyLast edit: 19/09/2013 14:40

Gnarly   United States. Sep 19 2013 17:02. Posts 1723


  if you wanna improve against regulars you have to start playing against them



Diversify or fossilize! 

NewbSaibot   United States. Sep 19 2013 19:33. Posts 4944

Reverse BumHunting: A guide

bye now 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 19 2013 20:59. Posts 5108

Im not so sure KOTH will give a lot of high stakes action at least.

They are all friends at the high stakes, and they usually know who are top 10 (and nr 3 knows he is worse than nr 2)

They will take 1 table each and then they will together analyze you and help each other to beat you if you do decide to sit down (and will not play each other)

:DLast edit: 19/09/2013 21:12

Target-x17   Canada. Sep 20 2013 17:11. Posts 1027


  On September 19 2013 03:51 MadeInPolanD wrote:
from your screen:
http://gyazo.com/ef24910a4b9bf3c695a293b8ad1bbbf2

you wrote to someone on skype:

"found some fishys while i was drunk for some hu action"


So nice drunken ramblings in this topic~



na this was day after im sure time logs are there ;p

f u bw rock 

nolan   Ireland. Sep 20 2013 21:20. Posts 6205

eh, if you appear to hand select at all preflop a lot of people will sit out, regardless of what you buy in for i find.

On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid 

NewbSaibot   United States. Sep 21 2013 00:02. Posts 4944

When I first tried HU I had no PTR history or tourney history or anything at all, and people usually sat out within 3 hands.

bye now 

devon06atX   Canada. Sep 21 2013 00:48. Posts 5458


  On September 20 2013 23:02 NewbSaibot wrote:
When I first tried HU I had no PTR history or tourney history or anything at all, and people usually sat out within 3 hands.

Same. Pretty sure it has a lot to do with the auto-reload and making 'snap decisions' preflop.

Well, actually. ~3 years ago there was a lot more action given all around. These days - half the time you buy in full, you get sat out. Would be curious to see if Jungleman could have done his rise to fame under todays HU bullshit.


Target-x17   Canada. Sep 21 2013 03:34. Posts 1027

i dont think many poker players could make there rise to fame under todays anything

f u bw rock 

Target-x17   Canada. Sep 21 2013 03:42. Posts 1027


  On September 19 2013 18:33 NewbSaibot wrote:
Reverse BumHunting: A guide



lol thats pretty funny but there is alot of meta game angling goin on now a days. Playing in ways where you can tilt semi fish regs is a must. Especially when I lure other sng players to play cash with me. Look extra terrible at first and give them lots of action. Took a few of em for a few g. Players that are never used to playing with >20bb's but make decent money to splash around.

f u bw rock 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 21 2013 11:37. Posts 5108

Btw LOL at the Pokerstars Stud High lobby...

How can Pokerstars seriously allow that, lolol

:DLast edit: 21/09/2013 11:42

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Sep 26 2013 09:58. Posts 1687

I joined a guy from Germany at 0.5/1 PLO. He asked for 4 tables, I said no thanks 2 if you like... he won a 50BB pot first hand and then sat out saying if I didn't want to play 4 tables then he didn't want to play. He said its his table, I joined his table and that means he's in the right to dictate any terms he wants. I asked how often he actually gets anyone join his table whose just instantly willing to play 4 tables he didn't reply. I asked if he thought he was fair he said yes. I said you're only fair if you at least give me a button he lol'd and said no honour in poker anymore.

Its people like this that make there be no honour any more in poker and he is nowhere near the worst.. Its a joke really. Fish are surely going to be so turned off by all these people just sitting out all the time.

I also got sat out by 9/10 regs, ridiculous.

I honestly wonder if he just asks for 4 tables so he can grim a sb everytime while he's waiting for a known complete whale.. seems like a gay (or insert more politically correct word) way to make a living though.

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 26/09/2013 09:58

casinocasino   Canada. Sep 26 2013 14:05. Posts 3343

Fish don't stop gambling because one reg in HU reg decides to grim the fk out of them


waga   United Kingdom. Sep 26 2013 14:20. Posts 2375

Fish stop gambling online because regs act like total douchebag.


player999   Brasil. Sep 26 2013 16:02. Posts 7978


  On September 26 2013 08:58 KeyleK_uk wrote:
I joined a guy from Germany at 0.5/1 PLO. He asked for 4 tables, I said no thanks 2 if you like... he won a 50BB pot first hand and then sat out saying if I didn't want to play 4 tables then he didn't want to play. He said its his table, I joined his table and that means he's in the right to dictate any terms he wants. I asked how often he actually gets anyone join his table whose just instantly willing to play 4 tables he didn't reply. I asked if he thought he was fair he said yes. I said you're only fair if you at least give me a button he lol'd and said no honour in poker anymore.

Its people like this that make there be no honour any more in poker and he is nowhere near the worst.. Its a joke really. Fish are surely going to be so turned off by all these people just sitting out all the time.

I also got sat out by 9/10 regs, ridiculous.

I honestly wonder if he just asks for 4 tables so he can grim a sb everytime while he's waiting for a known complete whale.. seems like a gay (or insert more politically correct word) way to make a living though.



report him to support for grimming

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Baalim   Mexico. Sep 26 2013 20:08. Posts 34250


  On September 21 2013 10:37 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Btw LOL at the Pokerstars Stud High lobby...

How can Pokerstars seriously allow that, lolol



???

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Sep 26 2013 20:28. Posts 5108


  On September 26 2013 19:08 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



???


2-4 chinese players at every table sitting out and waiting for fish

Opening 5-20 tables per limit

Not exactly good for those stud games long term

:D 

2c0ntent   Egypt. Sep 27 2013 02:18. Posts 1387

They've had to become very polite these days

+- 

iop   Sweden. Sep 27 2013 18:15. Posts 4951

most people avoid me as well, and i play very very very very seldomly

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth 

partyallday   . Oct 08 2013 19:16. Posts 5

Just came across this thread.
What is a bumhunter? And what do the
Russians do online?
Just curious.
Thanks


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Oct 09 2013 13:54. Posts 5108

I dont understand people that will bumhunt.... but when there is a fish in the game they willl also mass 3-bet other regs in the game so the fish get squeezed out of the pot all the time and u never get to see a flop with the fish (neighter does he)

Do u guys understand this concept ? Especially at PLO.......... they 3-bet EVERY hand instead of seeing a flop with huge edge vs donks.... Ruins the edge for both of us argh !

:DLast edit: 09/10/2013 14:00

Bejamin1   Canada. Oct 10 2013 01:29. Posts 7042


  On October 09 2013 12:54 VanDerMeyde wrote:
I dont understand people that will bumhunt.... but when there is a fish in the game they willl also mass 3-bet other regs in the game so the fish get squeezed out of the pot all the time and u never get to see a flop with the fish (neighter does he)

Do u guys understand this concept ? Especially at PLO.......... they 3-bet EVERY hand instead of seeing a flop with huge edge vs donks.... Ruins the edge for both of us argh !



Fish in PLO that fold to 3-bets.... Not sure those exist

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Oct 10 2013 04:43. Posts 5108

Fish that folds to raise/reraise when its action to them exist

:D 

partyallday   . Oct 12 2013 08:04. Posts 5

What is bum hunting??


ilbh   Brasil. Oct 12 2013 16:06. Posts 275

bum hunter is someone who plays only vs fishes


ktp   United States. Oct 12 2013 16:50. Posts 48

theres nothing wrong with only bum hunting fish and dodging regs now fuck off


K40Cheddar   United States. Oct 13 2013 10:32. Posts 2202


  On October 12 2013 15:50 ktp wrote:
theres nothing wrong with only bum hunting fish and dodging regs now fuck off



GG 

Highcard   Canada. Oct 13 2013 21:54. Posts 5428


  On October 13 2013 09:32 K40Cheddar wrote:
Show nested quote +






You wouldn't be surprised if you knew his mother, she was like that when you slipped back into reality from an explosive fuck session. Before you had time to pull out of her ass,"now go skip on home you walking fuck toy."

Dat feels man, it is all coming back.

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Highcard   Canada. Oct 13 2013 21:56. Posts 5428

courtesy of liedarkhorse

carl sagan music



That is the real feels I am having at the present.

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the timeLast edit: 13/10/2013 22:00

Highcard   Canada. Oct 13 2013 21:58. Posts 5428

double post

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the timeLast edit: 13/10/2013 22:00

 



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