Buffalo Poker Classic

Unlucky, just remember you are in a better spot than before this.

still a nice score, will you pay back your debts now? Oh, wait, it's Neilly, so for sure there is a reason not to do it, isn't it?

what tianyuan said. Nice score.

I paid this and next months rent. I have 2150.

Its like its fucking bad karma for saying I'd keep 2k or something WTF.

u gave ur dad some of the profits?

congrats

my dads going 50/50 with my $ on every mtt around for now on with that 2150 and im sure if something bad were to happen, he'd just stake me. I'll keep playing my best, tons of 109s and 215s and even 60s and 70s. Probably 10 MTT's a month here and Hero online, although you can't even do a Player Transfer there anyfuckingmore and can only cashout 2500 a month which is complete utter bullshit. - I'll aim for 3.6k a month there and cashout 2500 a month there.

I'll take my time and look to have maybe 10k with a good november.

I crashed my car last week. I should get my insurance payment this week.

Need to get a little car good on gas for cheap, maybe get an extra grand out of that.

probably get 1 debt paid off here.

so royal ya ur not fucking far off.

yay

pops is gonna split and buy 70% up to any 1k with me, finding tons of live mtt's, going to buffalo turbos every saturday $220 or w/e, 5-7k first, 85 ppl or so.

found a few other good mtt's, a good 300 deepstack, and 1k in pittsburgh.

Local live MTT casino has mtt's Sundays too, First Tuesday of the Month and First Wednesday of the month are here. Last Saturday of the month I think in Erie, not too sure what Les said..gotta check that out.

When I get my new ride I'll start going.

I'll continue to grind out pure cash games on hero since you can't cashout over 2500 a month, use my player points do run like 3r's and just watch a movie and own them for 600 etc here n there as well I assume.

MTT's live, maybe a few cheap easy mtt's on hero too, but no reason to risk shit when you can't cash out over 2500$. I think its a hard pill to swallow for tons of USA grinders that saw no reason to relocate or that are stateside.

ok well, im frustrated as fucking hell, I was a lil too deep to stack off in that situation I think, but I don't really see how I can play it differently, other than flatting to own his Tx/weak Ax hands post + prolly coulda just outplayed him post on alot of boards if I missed etc. Someone called in the cooler!

i learned a large lesson in this mtt. the payjumps were fucking huge.

12k, 17.5k, 28k, 45k.

Was a really good experience....the emotional rollercoaster was running at a high level, I was on swinging hard from 1.2 - 1.7k and sometimes to 900k, doing everything possible to get the win...

One tiny mistake that late is just unacceptable and not to be tolerated.

GG

Live....Learn....Hope the road is a smooth nice cruise.

Thousands of cashgame hands played lately, I'll play some 1/2 on days sometimes too most likely idk, bi @ 150 and stop loss 300, 10am - 7pm sounds about right, 8 hour sessions and lunch.

Panicy mind right now to say the least.

God im frustrated as shit.

I need to take a couple days off atleast most likely, find a hottie to give me a massage or something.

GL LP,
Still #closetobusto
Ryan

byrn have a field day lol

still "just a kid with a dream"

On November 05 2012 19:10 uiCk wrote: u gave ur dad some of the profits?

He payed for my buy-in and is a chairman, had me comped a suite etc.

i ran it by him, said 15% itm, 25% ft, 33% top 3, 40% 2nd, 50% 1st.

Was a lifechanging moment.

Really sucked.

Learned a ton, made some really good plays and reads..

Made some great friends and got reads on how these guys play around here, my first time on the live scene here in 2 years.

Hoping for the best, going to look to make my BR work for my benefit by selling 50-80% of my action to my father to keep the monies in the family and hopefully in my pocket.

Okie closing computer, ego loves to bitch.

pc,
Ryan

'my dads going 50/50 with my $ on every mtt around for now on with that 2150 and im sure if something bad were to happen, he'd just stake me.'

I got a question. And I don't want this to come off as just a flame or something. Curiosity maybe. If you crashed and burned...eventually getting staked by your father and burning through his $$ on a bad tournament run (MTTs. Shit happens...even if you don't tilt), would you feel genuinely bad in a different way since you lost your father's money? Or simply be able to shrug it off with that whole 'oh well lesson learned, look to the future' vibe you got going on as bad tournament variance and explain it to him like you would to a normal backer, someone at least mildly competent in the poker world. On the same token, if you're in the midst of a bad run on your father's money, would you be able to play w/o that assumed extra mental stress effecting your play?

I am not entirely sure how after your millions of MTTs you didn't realize how big the pay jumps are at a FT and since those pay jumps are super important to your present needs, why you didn't realize that flipping when deep is a bad idea when they are going to spew in so many other ways.

Again, I have no idea how you didn't realize this, but anyways now at least you do?

is your dad rich or is he just down with the poker? my parents would probably disown me if they ever knew i played poker lol.

Is 12k your largest single tourney win so far? And I mean yeah, you got like 2k to your name now, thats all yours to keep. A bankroll to grind NL100 with. You need to spread your roll across several merge skins to avoid the $2500 limit, unless thats against the rules or something. At least try to play on as many sites as allowed for USA players so you can be cashing out $2500 from multiple sources at once. Have you given Bovada a chance yet? You seem to do well in the short hit n run type games, where nobody has any reads on you and have trouble adjusting to your loose style. Bovada doesnt allow HUD's so this could be to your advantage. I dont mean literally hit n run, but 1 hour sessions as an anonymous player are probably your strong points. If you think about it, your avg tourney nets you something like 150-200 hands right? Thats about 1 hour at a cash game table online, before you start to crumble.

12k is my 4th largest score I believe, maybe 3rd or 5th.

I'm going to continue grinding hero out 2500 a month and that will sustain my living expenses.

I have a couple grand that will actually act as 4-7k going 50/50 to 20/80 depending on bi's etc.

I'm just going to go around playing tons of tournaments and playing online cash on days theres nothing going on.

Idk its to early to tell, these are my genuine thoughts in order, i don't preview ore edit, i just type what i feel etc, i wish i flatted and just owned him post. i don't know why i 3bet that AT, i was 3betting a large range vs him and owning him all day, game was so stagnant for about 2 hours with very little happening, seemed right.......sucks when your wrong =[

its like 92% correct online and sucks when the 8% happens.

In the live arena, you can focus more on the singular hand and cut that 8% down.

w/e the real %'s are who cares, just sayin.

oh well fucking sucks.

i really wanted that win so bad, woulda really changed my life.

rent paid...lil bit of a bankroll, and my dad gambles a ton, he loves it, he knows i've been grinding over 9 years and have traveled the world, he doesn't mind going 50/50 or buying higher %'s. hes been gambling for over 30 years. I am from a family of gamblers on my mothers and fathers side.

GL,
Ryan

kim the mental stress of playing for him in this 1k was alot more than a weeklong downswing on stars for like 20k lol.

now that i have a few bucks, the stress is off. theres no way my dad would allow me go over 5k in makeup for him, unless its 5k then like the main event, he really wants me in next year.

I believe I should do very well grinding out just any dollars I can find, I'm surrounded by casinos, where I am currently living (20 mins, 1.2 hrs, 1.3 hrs, 3 hrs, 4hrs, 7 hr AC etc)

but thats cuz went all out setting it up for a great experience for me, with the room and being really great about the whole thing. he knows me really well, kept me even keel the whole time etc. Hes a great mental coach for me and is there with me each step of the way we're texting back n forth and calling on breaks.

He watches me grind sundays for weeks and has seen me have some impressive results chillin on the couch etc, he knows I play wellz.

My life is really just me in my house now. Waiting to get a new car. I have a couple grand lol......

I'll try to game select well, sell high % pieces in tons of mtt's, attend all the good ones that I can, and hope for good results.

If I went into mu or w/e in the worst case, I'm sure he'd just loan me a few bucks as he always has, and I'd pay him back. We're lookin to work together here though.

Newb, I've won my last 30 hours of cash online.

I've been a fucking machine beast when I grind 6max.

Refraining from posting graphs cuz everytime I do i get fucked lol.......I just play NL4-Nl50 though lol, and only grind cash online to make sure I'm as sharp as can be for deepstack play etc.

n yeah...stacking off that AT there kinda sick, but then again I 3bet at such a high clip that its really not bad at all, really unlucky what I ran into and how she ran out. Completely crushed his range, his reship range and had the nut redraw and trip redraw. Game flow.

Ne ways - ego loves to bitch.
Gnite,
Ryan

well i won't re-read this blog again.

im going to step away from poker and relax a few days, watch some movies and play sc2, new season just started.

So life-tilted lol.

Def won't open LP til I get back OTG Tuesday or Wed, def won't re-read this thread for a long, long time lol..

Was a great experience, need some time off, that was one helluva weekend and one helluva way to go out, sick emotional rollercoaster day 1 and 3, hopefully i can find some fun stuff to do in the next couple days to keep me occupied and lighten my mood back to normal

well lots of hits, hope u guys enjoyed the almost win, at 18 tg i said to everyone its win or failure for me, 3rd is slightly considered a win, yet i gotta call this a failure but a great learning experience. My first 3 day live event, I learned so much and feel much more prepared for the future events.

back random bloggin in a couple days or w/e
WInZ
Ryan

even when neilly wins, he loses. :/

[x] lose thousands of dollars from stakes, never pay back
[x] borrow money from family members to feed addiction


Doesn't sound good

I'll ask a simple question:

Which of the following is true:

From this blog:

On November 05 2012 18:54 NeillyJQ wrote: 4th. 12k. got 3150 for my 25%.

and from your Facebook:

Ryan Neilly - not bad tho, 3rd, 17.5k 8 hours ago

ill answer it for you...

You got 3rd, for $17.5k. Which as part of your staking deal with your dad meant you were entitled to 33%. which means you actually won $5775.

+ Show Spoiler +

Youre not trying to avoid paying your debt are you Ryan?

Seems a little unusual for a professional poker player to not be able to recall the place he finished in a tournament (that day), especially when that score apparently represented one of his biggest cashes ever.

I look forward to hearing your response.

Love,

Troll.

eh, nvm, I'm stupid and this is pointless anyway. Thumbs up for trying byrne

Very scummy.

Seriously neilly, give up poker and go get some help.

You're still young and clearly nothing is going to change unless you take some responsibility.

wow byrne, nice find, neilly is really scummy.

On November 05 2012 23:08 NeillyJQ wrote: and my dad gambles a ton, he loves it, he knows i've been grinding over 9 years and have traveled the world, he doesn't mind going 50/50 or buying higher %'s. hes been gambling for over 30 years. I am from a family of gamblers on my mothers and fathers side. GL, Ryan

this is neilly trying to justify ripping his dad off

I found a link to the Payout sheet for the Seneca Fall Poker Classic:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=1iGlc...nlVmD0pS-UXkcN3bjetgwWvXJgklenvAffSkK

With 171 entrants (as Neilly stated in another blog post), 4th place is 7.5% and 3rd place is 10.2%. So he either won $12,825 for 4th or $17,442 for 3rd. I feel like Neilly is more likely to lie to us than his FB friends so it's probably the latter.

At this point, I'd also begin to question how much Neilly really has to give back to his dad. If he's lying about his finish he's probably lying about how much his "Dad" is letting him keep. Either way, people he is in debt to are getting screwed.

Hopefully the actual results of the tournament get published soon.

I've got $10 he made up the whole dad story to actually hide the total amount of money won.

Byrne with the win win. (prob highest win bringing % on lp)

Neilly wins b/c it's forcing him to confront the truth.

LP wins b/c it is a pretty fascinating development in a pretty fascinating saga.

truth is 3rd ok, but i owed my dad 1618 and my step mom 960 so my dad said just tell the poker world 4th since i had to insta pay them off and pay rent.

i just said ok didn't matter.

i told you guys what i was left with after paying them off and paying rent.

thats all that mattered to me.

my dad gave me 5700 - 1600 + 960 = 2600 + 750 rent + 380 for car insurance.

i have around 2100ish and thats all that fckin matters.

genuinely curious, why the fuck does your dad care what you tell the "poker world"? o_O

edit - not saying it's wrong that he cares, but just seems pretty weird idk.

i paid off 2 debts to my dad and my step mom.

i paid my rent.

i have a lil over 2k to go 50/50 with my dad on.

i didn't want to have to explain all this when i didn't think it would matter, i explained it to my dad on the way home and he said just say you got 4th.

i had no problem with that, than rather sit and explain all this.

thats all the truth, what can i do. if i had top 2 i woulda gotten shitton of debts paid.

bigred he doesn't care what i tell u guys that much which is kind of a problem i think i should just have said it how it exactly went out etc;

i just said to him well what do i tell them when i had a great chance to win and don't have enough to pay them when i gotta pay you guys first, and he said just say you got 4th.

didn't make a big difference;

my dad got a lil over 10k

doesnt really matter its all close enough to the truth anyways, i have a small bankroll and going to look to build it up and keep working on hero, not like i have enough to send out if i intend on working.

if u call making 130k+ in the last 12 months a problem, then you're an idiot in my eyes sir.

i just got on my own like 2 weeks ago and had no cash, my dad put me in this, now i have a small br, u guys act like this shit happens over night, i almost had the fucking win.

i didn't, i paid my family debts and rent to save my fcking ass for this and next month and have enough to hopefully do good.

if things went bad i can always do a number of jobs, im not only talented at poker, but this is the route I will take as far as it takes me.

thats that guys.
Ryan

and obviously no matter what i'll be in poker til my last days on this earth, its the only thing i care to do.

On November 06 2012 19:29 NeillyJQ wrote: bigred he doesn't care what i tell u guys that much which is kind of a problem i think i should just have said it how it exactly went out etc; i just said to him well what do i tell them when i had a great chance to win and don't have enough to pay them when i gotta pay you guys first, and he said just say you got 4th. didn't make a big difference; my dad got a lil over 10k

It runs in the family I see.

On November 06 2012 19:34 NeillyJQ wrote: if u call making 130k+ in the last 12 months a problem, then you're an idiot in my eyes sir.

Wait, what? 130k in 12 months and now only 2k to your name?

well i got 10 powerball tickets for $142 million dollars 1st place lol, so lets win that and i'll get everyone paid in 2 days! lol...

naw but seriously, a couple months live grinding and 2500 a month on hero is fine, i'm atleast on my way now, that didn't matter to much, i had to keep what i was left with, not like i can afford to send out a br under $2500.

I work for noble causes, just didn't get the score needed, i got what i got, then i had to pay them, fuckin sucked, then pay rent, more suckage, but part of life, atleast have br and rent paid til january. thats a big plus ++

ynot - ive been staked, i paid 27k of debts so far, i have like 12.5k left in debt, i have a lil over 2k. my dads gonna help me by choppin mtt's, we're gonna work together, everyone that i owe a red cent to, knows they will get it when i have it, and thats the gods honest truth.

i might keep 2k if i got the exact 12.4k or w/e, and pay them when i flip it to 4k, thats about as scummy as i'd be when it truly comes down to it.

im a good guy, im not tryin to hurt anyone, i just wanted to make it more simple, lol, byrn burned a white lie that didn't really matter at all, I shoulda just explained I got 3rd and had to pay them off first obviously, as you guys would obviously pay your parents first if you owed them.

My dad believes me in 100% and I believe in myself a ton, i'm finally back on my own time, gimme time, gimme a break, before you know it, the wholes just about dug out of.

doin my best,
Ryan

I hope you realize you just look like a compulsive gambler trying to rationalize the shit out of his wrongdoings. I hope you do eventually pay back the debts but I don't think any of those people are expecting to see their money any time soon.

wow! Dad told You to lie...?

Call them both of You for christ sake

ISOMAIN@GAMBLERSANONYMOUS.ORG

"it's close enough to the truth"

btw, how many cars have you totaled?

Some people may not agree with me on this, but I think involving your father in your warped poker world, vesting financially in you, and perhaps even half truthing him is worse than just flat out completely messing up a stake from someone in the poker world, who are fully aware (don't care how much your dad 'loves gambling'...it's not the same thing) of the risks/consequences. Not saying you did the latter. Don't know don't care. What I was getting at earlier I guess...involving your family...it's just a bit beyond depressing no matter what rationalization you have.

buildin er up won a lil bit today at 1/2, everyones gettin paid, handling car insurance too, mb get some xtra out of that, we'll c what develops.

i will just keep grinding, first time on my own dime in the last YEAR, for 2 weeks, gimme a lil time and i'll obviously make the dime. History doesn't lie.

GL,
Ryan

Convinced Neilly is acutally one of the biggest levels in poker history, and is trolling hardcore now when he says

"History doesn't lie."

LOL

On November 07 2012 14:30 NeillyJQ wrote: buildin er up won a lil bit today at 1/2,

what part of your history in cash games made you think this was a good decision? (i'm assuming you mean 1/2 online)

Gotta admit, woulda been pretty sweet if you had just dumped the 17.5k to your backer. Probably woulda snap-backed you again for another 20k at a more reasonable rate so you can play bigger games on a regular basis. Now you're still stuck meddling around in whatever you can afford on a day to day basis without knowing what the next month is going to bring.

You're a disgrace.

I like your shameless edit of the original post in the hope that people don't notice what a scumbag you are.

I don't buy your story for a second. You talk about how you "understand the business side of poker" and then make up some bullshit story that you thought it would be better to lie about finishing 4th so you didn't have to "explain it all". Really you were trying to avoid paying any money to people.

You weren't caught in a white lie, you were caught in an outright lie.

I also had a fairly good idea of what your response was going to be and you didn't disappoint. It came as no surprise that the debt you owed to your immediate family members came out to be exactly that of the extra money you had previously tried to hide.

On November 04 2012 11:02 NeillyJQ wrote: If I was pocketing the win and saying LOL HAHHA MINE ETC I can understand the flames. I play to get out of debt to restart my life fresh.

This is exactly what you're doing. You're playing NL200 with your winnings. A game you cant beat.

Just admit that you have no intention of paying back your debt. It didnt matter if you won this tournament or not, you had no intention of paying anyone money.

If you really had any interest in paying people, you would have cut a deal with your parents to pay them back later, since you're embarking on a staking deal with your dad. Allowing you to use that money to pay back people who have now been waiting the best part of a decade.



Good to see youve got your priorities right and are making a real effort to get people paid back.

all i could do was this

take my monies

pay my dad
pay my step mom
pay rent this and next month
pay phone this and next month

leave myself with a lil over 2k.

all i could do lol

On November 07 2012 16:44 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2012 14:30 NeillyJQ wrote: buildin er up won a lil bit today at 1/2, what part of your history in cash games made you think this was a good decision? (i'm assuming you mean 1/2 online)

up to 1/2, mostly nl50-nl100, i'm solid enough to win at nl200 most the time as well, when im rolled for it from the bi's on the way up, i believe i'll fly that game, then again little reason to play it w/ a 2500 cashout max per month, low risk high reward stuff mostly

so ya prolly ceiling at nl100 online and see where it goes live etc

When you took out your last 2:1 loan to buy a car to move to Canada and subsequently 'totaled it' a couple of days after purchase, did you actually total it? or did you just take the cash, lose it gambling, make up the story, then take another loan so you could go to Costa Rica.

honest answers only, so please don't consult your dad for the answer.

Wow. Neat little development.

I can totally understand why you would have so many backers lining up around the block willing to stake you like you claim. Normally lying like this would effect your reputation but since yours is non-existent I guess it doesn't matter.

NeillyJQ wrote: I work for noble causes if things went bad i can always do a number of jobs, im not only talented at poker *lies, displaying a severe lack of ethics* im a good guy History doesn't lie i'm solid enough to win at nl200 most the time as well *buys ski equipment* all i could do lol

You're right though, history doesn't lie.

Great to see your dad has fuck all ethics either, know where you get it now. Sounds like you two really wrestled with a moral dilemma involving backers who have forfeited thousands of dollars to you and are still waiting on payments after years.

well.. ur a scum nothings changed..

also, i saw ur cash games hands and personally i dont think you have any chance to beat 50nl..

LOL so many burials in this thread. byrne you are ruthless