2/5 Live JJ - Page 2

sounds good,

in villains shoes 500 dollars deep everyone likes flatting 60 dollars here with a wide range?

It's terrible. You invest a lot of your stack and the limpers can reshove. I'm pretty sure a lot of guys at the micros understand this (even if they still click the wrong buttons).

To be utterly anal about the reasoning, since you're asking...basic poker theory would dictate we only flat with a wide range here if we can take it away post a lot, enough to overcome our equity disadvantage. Both of the things I mentioned (low PSR for all players, chance of not seeing a flop) severely limit this. It's one of those light money on fire spots where even if the raiser is c/fing a ton, I expect good players to still want hands.

Actually wobbly's comment is pretty interesting. I think solid live regs can be on the nitty side and not 3bet though.
60bb 3betting a 6bb iso live.
Do you play nosebleeds live, wobbly? I expect this kind of thing to be pretty standard at a live table with good online players battling eachother.

To not pot commit you have to use online sizings. Like 145/60 3bet. I'd be concerned about the quality of your flop decisions with 87s, because live players flat more (so your 3bet is less good to begin with). Ie, they might not get it in pre with all the hands you expect them to, electing to flat->be unpredictable and/or stick post.
This is similar to a tourney spot, so live players can fold here, but not as much as online.

Maybe you can comment. I can only see this being good against a few players, otherwise on the spewy side.


edit:" I think solid live regs can be on the nitty side and not 3bet though."
lol. Bwahahha...
Ok, fine. I'm a nit here and don't know how not to be. Help me.

Your reads are insufficient. " Called me with A high and is solid " isn't enough information to make a good decision on this flop. If you've been involved in a spot where he called you with A high, and a spot where you called him with A high you should know a LOT more about him than what you provided.

65 is pretty awful sizing regardless, you're giving him like 3.5-1 on a call on a board where there are going to be a ton of horrible turn cards and we're OOP. Bet out 120ish and go from there.