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jvilla777   Australia. Feb 28 2012 19:43. Posts 1348

free tutz imo..

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Garfed   Malta. Feb 28 2012 19:50. Posts 4818


  On February 28 2012 18:11 AndrewSong wrote:
It's obvious LP has been dying over the years. I'm sure it had more to do with Joy/Nazgul putting higher priority in teamliquid then black friday killing the traffic. Maybe LP should implement 2p2's infraction system instead of random bans. I do think it's retarded how easy mods ban posters.

I've been active on this site for over 6 years. Signed up for Full Tilt RB using liquidpoker as well($$$ your fkn welcome LP). I joined this site mostly because I was acquainted with Nazgul/joy from a SC1 clan. I've never acted out of line to receive any warning nor ban in my last 6 years of stay. I've contributed in many many strategy threads often as I can. I do not get any benefits from discussing strategies besides self pleasure.

I'm also an active poster on 2p2. I don't contribute anything for the community. Only threads I take part is the ones that benefits me(transfer thread, sportsbets and communicating with regs in reg thread). I've learned most of my poker from lurking 2p2 strat threads. I yell "die howard" on almost all my posts. Mods on 2p2 simply edit my posts or give me infraction if they think I've went too far. My infraction is only at 30% and haven't received any bans in my life.

Few weeks ago, I got banned for saying "die howard" from LP. Second ban being for 7 days. I understand wishing death upon someone is wrong but receiving 7 day ban felt too much. It made me feel that I may be contributing too much in a wrong community. Maybe this is what others felt when they left this site.



I think a lot of people misunderstand one thing: by giving warnings and bans we are pointing at posts/behavior and say: "this is not right".

I never knew how 2+2 operates (never got even a warning there), but we usually don't ban people before they have any warnings - of course there are some exceptions where we want to make a stronger point, but still mild enough for users to understand the decision - that's why we implemented 1 day bans just a month or two ago.

You contribute a lot, I respect you as a poster, I wasn't also the one to ban you there, but that doesn't matter - the case is, you were banned for just 1 day for 'Die Howard' post, yet after the ban was lifted you continued posting the same stuff.
Why would you do that?

Bare in mind that we try to be as objective as it's possible (of course everyone has a personal point of view on that matter), and we treat everyone the same when it comes to 'faulty' behavior. Best example? Take Baal for that case, I don't think anyone can argue that he is a core user of the site (almost 50k posts) that had insane contribution into community in every matter. However, he lost his moderator rights at some point and even got banned.

That's also a case here, I don't understand how people can justify, for example, BIlats last post because "he contributes to the community" or Tutzs continues provoking of mods and trolling because "they like him". That's not how it works.
Bill Gates donates billions of dollars to the Third World help, he probably saved thousands of human beings. If he were to go on the street and kill 10 random people, should we justify his actions, because he saved 10 000 times as many as he killed? Of course I'm exaggerating a ton here, but I hope you get the idea, even when comparing such two extreme cases as posts on internet forum and human life.

 Last edit: 28/02/2012 20:19

Minsk   United States. Feb 28 2012 20:01. Posts 1558

seriously nothing better to do? go start reality show faggots


Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 28 2012 20:20. Posts 7499

One things for sure, if the LP mods ran a small country, it'd have less freedom than the USA

That said I think almost all the mods are awesome, but there are 1-2 nazi's who take their status as a mod way, way too seriously.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Svenman87   United States. Feb 28 2012 20:31. Posts 4636

A few people around here need a hug


humPah   Finland. Feb 28 2012 20:31. Posts 1544

So, what post did tutz and BILAT get banned for then? No need to quote exact post but rough idea, like "he posted gory images" or something, can't browse back their 100 posts like Daut can

Raising preflop more than 10% is somewhat wild. 5% is average. Less than 3% is passive. 

Svenman87   United States. Feb 28 2012 20:32. Posts 4636

Also I think die howard is not a meme is now a meme?

Much like how milhouse is not a meme is a meme?


whamm!   Albania. Feb 28 2012 20:34. Posts 11625

eid drawoh is still usable last time i checked


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Feb 28 2012 20:44. Posts 2083

Ah odd wire

confirmed usable

Poker chobo. 

YoMeR   United States. Feb 28 2012 21:01. Posts 12435

lol noo bring back tutz.

eZ Life. 

Roald   Tuvalu. Feb 28 2012 21:03. Posts 2683

What if a native German speaker says "die Howard"? This would mean "the Howard". Certainly an exception must be made!?

drugs, animals, children are welcome -Xavier 

player999   Brasil. Feb 28 2012 21:10. Posts 7978

Dont think Bilat's ban was undeserved at all
I mean, that was pretty gross
Even considering he contributes a lot

However, in tutz's case, he pretty much asked for it
On many occasions he was warned to stop, but didnt
While I would like him to stay, he does need to learn to behave
Also, I think "die howard" must stop, but cmon
Rainkhan and Andrewsong should have immunity
Dont think its crazy to let those 2 say it anytime they want

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Sherdog   Poland. Feb 28 2012 21:12. Posts 66


  On February 28 2012 20:03 Roald wrote:
What if a native German speaker says "die Howard"? This would mean "the Howard". Certainly an exception must be made!?



Better if a native German speakers says "die Howard" than "sieg heil" xD


c4rnage   . Feb 28 2012 21:24. Posts 409

sorry, but ... why people do such a mess for bans? i mean, cant he or anybody else just create another account?


whamm!   Albania. Feb 28 2012 21:46. Posts 11625


  On February 28 2012 18:43 jvilla777 wrote:
free tutz imo..





chris   United States. Feb 28 2012 21:51. Posts 5503

tutz is brazillian, he cannt help it

5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly 

ERASA   Germany. Feb 28 2012 22:20. Posts 2440

I honestly think tutz is a nice guy that gets misunderstood easily...
anyways i liked him (from reading his stuff).
If there is something like a petition for making it a tempban instead of a permban, put me on the list!

 Last edit: 28/02/2012 22:20

Sanai   United States. Feb 28 2012 22:53. Posts 643


  On February 28 2012 21:20 ERASA wrote:
I honestly think tutz is a nice guy that gets misunderstood easily...
anyways i liked him (from reading his stuff).
If there is something like a petition for making it a tempban instead of a permban, put me on the list!


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 28 2012 23:01. Posts 13047


  On February 28 2012 18:11 AndrewSong wrote:
It's obvious LP has been dying over the years. I'm sure it had more to do with Joy/Nazgul putting higher priority in teamliquid then black friday killing the traffic. Maybe LP should implement 2p2's infraction system instead of random bans. I do think it's retarded how easy mods ban posters.

Few weeks ago, I got banned for saying "die howard" from LP. Second ban being for 7 days. I understand wishing death upon someone is wrong but receiving 7 day ban felt too much. It made me feel that I may be contributing too much in a wrong community. Maybe this is what others felt when they left this site.



- I agree with them both putting higher priority into TeamLiquid. They did the same thing with LiquidPoker, back when it was first launched. The moderator group at TL wasn't as good once LP was launched, cuz the old Starcraft 1 players who were moderators and old Starcraft 1 players who were posters switched over to poker, which took a lot out of how fun it was to participate at the website.

Once again, the 2 website owners are focusing on another project, which was their original baby, and not being active in their 2nd baby.

- As for the bans, I registered at LP in November 2005 and was active for 1 year at least, before I stopped playing poker and focused on other stuff. I started being active in November/December 2009 when I moved back to USA and haven't been banned. I think the reason I haven't been banned yet is because I know what I want from LP and what I'm here to offer, and so I just focus on that stuff and not on other stuff.

I think I have an idea of the position Tutz is in. I was banned from TL back in 2003-2004 by Nazgul. I was immature at that time, and after I was banned I took some time off to just read the website and relax a bit from posting, I guess you can call it "cold turkey". I made a new account and made sure to think before I posted things, I had to manually edit so many posts because I knew it was immature or too mean, but I did it anyway. Overtime I grew up and didn't post that much dumb shit anymore.

I think this relates to Tutz in the sense that he's apparently immature, and needs to take some time off from the internet, (I think I mentioned this in one of his recent threads), then make a new account and start thinking before he types stuff. I don't even see most of the stuff he posts cuz it's not in my section of the website, but I still know he has issues that needed to be worked out before he comes back.

Rekrul is a newb 

LikeASet   United States. Feb 28 2012 23:13. Posts 2113

This thread is lol. Tutz with his herp derp pour coffee powder on gf's head while she showers herp derp lol


 
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