Haha. Perfectly sums up every post by d_smart, loco, and zulu. nothing can be done here. better to pass by.
What? Who the hell are you to contemptuously "pass by" and give me some sign of disapproval and telling people I am beyond engaging with? You didn't even address me once in this thread. Arrogant, smug prick. You're out of your mind if you think intelligent people here will applaud this type of behavior.
Did anyone ever think about the concept of interpretation? Words, symbols, numbers, situations, concepts, forms, metaphors etc. are all subject to your personal interpretation, they depend upon your internal knowledge and the ways your brain (or mind) associates these concepts and abstract thoughts with your own subjective knowledge and experience. In this sense, every religion may be true to a certain individual, because it all depends on their own subjective knowledge, experience and interpretation.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
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palak United States. Jan 15 2012 16:14. Posts 4601
On January 15 2012 03:47 Baalim wrote:
No thats not the logical assumption you can make about the double slit experiment, for the third time (and like 6th time counting other posters) you dont understand Quantum physics, you probably dont even understand basic physics, you dont know anything about the behavior of electrons, no fucking reputable scientists has EVER said that the double slit experiment leads to the conclusion of your absolutely skewed perception of a multiverse.
LoL yeah. Except for Einstein and almost all quantum physicists including Max Planck. It's just that you don't know. But when you think that you know everything and you know so little the result is that you start arguing documented facts. Learn about Einstein's work and his theories and beliefs on parallel universes. Here is a good start for you:
Maybe you are going to answer that Einstein and Max Planck weren't reputable enough? Not as much as Dr Baalim, right?
sight, ill read when i get later home at night, but its just an obvios misinterpretation of what they mean again, you theorizing on shit you dont understand.
Extra-dimensional humans who would have been able to travel into our space-time continuum, may possibly be as significantly more intellectually capable than the typical human being of our Earth, as we compare to the intelligence of a dog. It would be in the interest of such hostile extra-dimensional human beings and possible extra-terrestrial allies collectively guided by a demonic consciousness, (and that seeks to enslave humanity on our Earth), to create organized religion, and seize control of educational and mass-media systems on our Earth.
It is therefore furthermore plausible, that the chief deniers of the existence of Extraterrestrials, are, in fact, operatives of an Extraterrestrial alliance, which does not seek to operate in support of the vital interests of our Earth.
If the humans in such parallel universes driven by a lower dimensional demonic consciousness, created or acquired highly advanced technology to enable their singular quest of power, such humans might seek to mischievously conquer parallel universes, which include our own Earth and universe. It is therefore plausible, if we acknowledge Einstein's and reinforcing theories on parallel universes, and critically open our mind to the possibilities, that apparent humans who are highly intelligent and disciplined in their objectives, but from a lower dimensional consciousness, might be using their human appearance to seize control of our Earth.
These "extra-dimensional" humans may be executing coordinated operations with the various apparent Extraterrestrial spacecraft, which human beings of our Earth, have seen, or had direct personal contact with. Some of these extra-dimensional humans could also be from parallel universes with higher levels of consciousnesses than our Earth, and may seek to countervail the demonic alliance.
This might seem to be a farfetched theory, until we also further acknowledge many official whistleblower as well as eyewitness accounts from such people as learned Chinese scientist Sun Shili, LINK, who indicated that they have seen and know of, for example, unusually tall humans, and human looking beings, not of this Earth. These humans have access to highly advanced technologies including spacecraft, not of this Earth.
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If we open our minds to the possibilities, as inspired by Albert Einstein's and reinforcing theories that appreciation suggests that human beings, not of our Earth, are seeking to wilfully destroy our Earth, for their own agenda.
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
On January 15 2012 03:47 Baalim wrote:
No thats not the logical assumption you can make about the double slit experiment, for the third time (and like 6th time counting other posters) you dont understand Quantum physics, you probably dont even understand basic physics, you dont know anything about the behavior of electrons, no fucking reputable scientists has EVER said that the double slit experiment leads to the conclusion of your absolutely skewed perception of a multiverse.
LoL yeah. Except for Einstein and almost all quantum physicists including Max Planck. It's just that you don't know. But when you think that you know everything and you know so little the result is that you start arguing documented facts. Learn about Einstein's work and his theories and beliefs on parallel universes. Here is a good start for you:
Maybe you are going to answer that Einstein and Max Planck weren't reputable enough? Not as much as Dr Baalim, right?
sight, ill read when i get later home at night, but its just an obvios misinterpretation of what they mean again, you theorizing on shit you dont understand.
Extra-dimensional humans who would have been able to travel into our space-time continuum, may possibly be as significantly more intellectually capable than the typical human being of our Earth, as we compare to the intelligence of a dog. It would be in the interest of such hostile extra-dimensional human beings and possible extra-terrestrial allies collectively guided by a demonic consciousness, (and that seeks to enslave humanity on our Earth), to create organized religion, and seize control of educational and mass-media systems on our Earth.
It is therefore furthermore plausible, that the chief deniers of the existence of Extraterrestrials, are, in fact, operatives of an Extraterrestrial alliance, which does not seek to operate in support of the vital interests of our Earth.
If the humans in such parallel universes driven by a lower dimensional demonic consciousness, created or acquired highly advanced technology to enable their singular quest of power, such humans might seek to mischievously conquer parallel universes, which include our own Earth and universe. It is therefore plausible, if we acknowledge Einstein's and reinforcing theories on parallel universes, and critically open our mind to the possibilities, that apparent humans who are highly intelligent and disciplined in their objectives, but from a lower dimensional consciousness, might be using their human appearance to seize control of our Earth.
These "extra-dimensional" humans may be executing coordinated operations with the various apparent Extraterrestrial spacecraft, which human beings of our Earth, have seen, or had direct personal contact with. Some of these extra-dimensional humans could also be from parallel universes with higher levels of consciousnesses than our Earth, and may seek to countervail the demonic alliance.
This might seem to be a farfetched theory, until we also further acknowledge many official whistleblower as well as eyewitness accounts from such people as learned Chinese scientist Sun Shili, LINK, who indicated that they have seen and know of, for example, unusually tall humans, and human looking beings, not of this Earth. These humans have access to highly advanced technologies including spacecraft, not of this Earth.
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If we open our minds to the possibilities, as inspired by Albert Einstein's and reinforcing theories that appreciation suggests that human beings, not of our Earth, are seeking to wilfully destroy our Earth, for their own agenda.
Those links contain lots of information and links. There was information related to what I talked about + additional opinions and viewpoints. I think it is pretty straightforward that I am sharing the links to show the sections that agree with my viewpoints, I can't write "I don't agree with the 5th paragraph, the first 3 sentences of the 8th paragraph and the two sentences that are 5 sentences before the end of the last paragraph". Of course, I missed the important detail that there is gigantic retard on LP called palak. Thank you for reminding me.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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palak United States. Jan 15 2012 16:48. Posts 4601
That link contains no scientific information beyond saying "einsteins theory" a few times
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
On January 15 2012 15:48 palak wrote:
That link contains no scientific information beyond saying "einsteins theory" a few times
It also says "space-time continuum".
Btw, I have a PhD in Physics, and I don't understand quantuum physics. The only thing I can say is that it's not because you have read some articles quoting Einstein or explaining (a bit) of Young's experiments that you can say you understand it. I studied enough to understand the wikipedia article on light duality, but it is far to make me understand what is at stake.
And I am also quite pissed by the fact that Higg's boson (again, I don't even understand what it is) is quite often named God's particle. It shows the fact that when common understanding becomes quite low, religion is used in order to fill that hole.
On January 15 2012 14:51 Loco wrote:
edit: oops, think I misunderstood the post. Not sure what you mean saki, I'm guessing that you're saying that, being on LP, I shouldn't be taking any discussions as seriously as I do, or something like that?
I can't turn into 'durr-hurr' playful-mode on these topics, since I'm always studying them seriously. But like I said I'm not expecting people to do the same. It doesn't make me rage like zulu_nation lolz.
Oh lol i missed that you said you didnt expect it. Idk, i just loled when i read "an honest intellectual discussion encouraging the flow of ideas." and thought of lp forums
Yeah, it was just an observation. Mostly because I'm used to the debate format on YouTube and I prefer the less frequent dialogue format. It's less about showing off and more about sharing viewpoints/ideas and learning. I'd never expect the latter here so it doesn't upset me. It's really stupid to be snide and dismissive like silver though.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jan 15 2012 21:04. Posts 5365
guys i just want to let you know that i've chosen a side to the argument and that there is no amount of logic that can change my mind because i have invested too much of my life into this for me to back down. Also to me, morality and emotions count towards logic in my argument even though it isn't actually logic.
these 2 videos might be interesting to some of you. While you are watching them take into consideration the fact these people have their individual belief system and so everything that they say is THEIR interpratation of their personal experiences.
PS: I am not religious - clarification to those who would think otherwise due to me posting these videos.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On January 13 2012 08:57 Loco wrote:
And if it was sufficient and we truly could be aligning ourselves with it fully, and be "believers of science", we wouldn't need philosophy to give us our ethics, something that science cannot do, since you can never get an ought from an is.
Actually, there's an argument to be made that we can determine human values through science, I recommend you read "The Moral Landscape" by Sam Harris on this very topic.
As for the topic of this thread, it's 8:41 am and I haven't slept yet, plus I've learned over time that debating with religious nuts is a waste of time, so I'll just put it bluntly: Religion is retarded. Plain and simple. But believing that crap makes feeble minds feel comfortable and you'll never convince them. The evidence has been there for too long, if they could muster up the intellect, the courage and curiosity necessary to understand, they would have jumped the fence a while ago. I think my views would be well described by that post on first page that said the % of a deity being the creator of this universe is probably < 1%.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
And lol at D Smart S New Age movements. i know someone who pretty much has told me the same arguments, the same videos, the same examples , the same "logic" and also displayed same characteristics as you; knows none of the subjects you are talking about, except for watching YouTube videos extensively. The new Age movement is strong and big.
It's got its benefits though, population control it seems, since idiots like Steve Jobs decide to follow New Age movement because "mainstream science" is bad, and die.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On January 16 2012 10:27 uiCk wrote:
And lol at D Smart S New Age movements. i know someone who pretty much has told me the same arguments, the same videos, the same examples , the same "logic" and also displayed same characteristics as you; knows none of the subjects you are talking about, except for watching YouTube videos extensively. The new Age movement is strong and big.
It's got its benefits though, population control it seems, since idiots like Steve Jobs decide to follow New Age movement because "mainstream science" is bad, and die.
...the irony
LoL @ "New Age Movement"
you are brainwashed beyond belief.
you don't like to think and when you are presented with new information you quickly put it in some frame, like in a trash can, so that it doesn't bother you and make you question existential matters like life. Your consciousness is in prison and you don't even know how it got there. Brainwashing at its best.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
watch the video, you might get some futher information of what type of mental disorder you are suffering from
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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terrybunny19240 United States. Jan 16 2012 11:57. Posts 13829
On January 15 2012 15:09 Zorglub wrote:
Did anyone ever think about the concept of interpretation? Words, symbols, numbers, situations, concepts, forms, metaphors etc. are all subject to your personal interpretation, they depend upon your internal knowledge and the ways your brain (or mind) associates these concepts and abstract thoughts with your own subjective knowledge and experience. In this sense, every religion may be true to a certain individual, because it all depends on their own subjective knowledge, experience and interpretation.
This is a cool topic and stuff but I am not sure if it applies when people start trying to proclaim universal truths
also I think the whole point of the scientific method is to remove this subjectivity in as universally accessible way as possible (ie the goals of being verifiable, repeatable in experimentation). The kicker for science is that if something is legitimately confirmed in a scientific way, it ought to be universal insofar as we're (we're = human beings, without super powers) currently capable of understanding.
I am neither religious nor ritualistic. You just lack analyzing skills so when you are presented with something new you have to quickly give it definition by putting it in a group with something that you have already defined. Preferably, when something is challenging your belief system it goes in a group with something you have defined as negative. If you learn a bit about psychology you might learn a lot about yourself and how deeply you are brainwashed since a little kid. Find a documentary on brainwashing or an interview of a brainwashinig expert, you would have difficulty watching the whole thing because you will feel deeply attacked and would shut down any access of your brain. Seriously, learn how brainwashing works, it's not just a loose term that I throw around. There is a whole science to it. The leaders of this world know that they cannot physically control the population so they do it by controlling their minds through brainwashing. You are so clueless it's funny.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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