<img src="http://www.liquidpoker.net/staff/Raidern/elkyraszi.jpg" align="right" style="margin:1px; border:1px solid black;">Poker players and long-time LP posters Lex 'Raszi' Veldhuis and Bertrand 'ElkY' Grospellier will put on the gloves and go against one another in a ring. It's all part of a sidebet involving them. Their history goes way back to the days where they used to play StarCraft, a famous real-time strategy game amongst poker players, in the early 2000s.
Raszi posted on his twitter: “I’m fighting (kickboxing) Elky in Las Vegas this summer. Last week of May right before WSOP probably. This all because of a side bet!" His account now shows a picture of him wearing fighting gloves. We still don't know about the rules of the fight, but they will probably be similar to the rules of the fight involving Theo Jorgensen and Gus Hansen, which took place back in 2009. After three boxing rounds, the judges scored a decision in favor of Theo Jorgensen, who won a $35,000 bet off Gus Hansen.
On his twitter profile, Raszi shows some confidence in his skills as a fighter and says that he's taking bets for the fight. More details on his bet with Elky might be posted soon.
Share your thoughts with us and tell us about who do you think will win this fight!
On April 10 2011 19:07 RiKD wrote:
rules? how long have both been training? reach? weight? betting line?
i havent talked to either much about it nor have i seen them train/spar or anything (i saw elky train once a few years back but was so long ago), but here is my basic handicapping of it and thoughts
size: raszi is about 6'3 195 with fairly decent reach, id guess around 74-75. elky is about 5'10 160 with what id guess about 70 inch reach
elky has been doing this for a while, raszi not as long but he also has an obsessive personality and has very good kickboxing available to him in the netherlands.
a year ago i think elky would have been a big favorite due to raszi being inexperienced, but now combining raszi's size edge, his obsessive nature and the training available to him in holland, without knowing any specifics about either guys technique or seeing them actually fight in person, i would set the line raszi -175.
of course people with inside info about either guy or both guys could give a much more accurate description, but for people willing to gamble on the outcome without knowing a lot of specifics and just general things i think lex -175 is an ok line
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HeroPoker-CEO Korea (South). Apr 10 2011 22:00. Posts 292
elky is about 6'1 and got long thick arms and strong like an ape and he probably wont' give up unless he gets knocked out ^^
hmm i always felt like i was taller than elky and im 6'0. maybe im crazy
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PillPoppin United States. Apr 10 2011 23:32. Posts 71
On April 10 2011 19:38 Daut wrote:a year ago i think elky would have been a big favorite due to raszi being inexperienced, but now combining raszi's size edge, his obsessive nature and the training available to him in holland, without knowing any specifics about either guys technique or seeing them actually fight in person, i would set the line raszi -175.
Elky is a baller, im pretty sure he can get some good training in. As far as "obsessive nature" goes, were talking about a guy who dominated Korea's starcraft scene for a good while, I dunno how much more obsessive a person can be than a korean sc pro.
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After further consideration, the timing of this is hugely -ev for Raszi. A black eye for him means that he cant be poker's pretty boy anymore, and less tv time should by some means equate to less $$.
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Bigbobm United States. Apr 11 2011 00:02. Posts 5512
pretty boy?
sickest trolling ever
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NotSorry United States. Apr 11 2011 00:03. Posts 2603
I've made a rule to never bet against a dutch man in a fight.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
On April 10 2011 19:38 Daut wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 10 2011 19:07 RiKD wrote:
size: raszi is about 6'3 195 with fairly decent reach, id guess around 74-75. elky is about 5'10 160 with what id guess about 70 inch reach
Shape isn't representative of the weight. There are guys who have strong bones (which are way heavier than the fat calories or whatever you can call it).
On the baal's picture he may looks a little "big" but he may have some slim bones perhaps ? So 78 Kg for 1m83 is pretty understandable imo.
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blackjacki2 United States. Apr 11 2011 10:15. Posts 2582
On April 11 2011 05:18 Defrag wrote:
Raszi 195cm? I've met him few times and he didint really seem a head taller then me, lol ;o
And yeah, I think Lex will win here
that's cause raszi's head is 50cm long. If he were a head taller than you you'd be a midget
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goose58 United States. Apr 11 2011 11:49. Posts 871
On April 11 2011 01:37 goose58 wrote:
I'm curious if Raszi gets to use his Adderall prescription for this fight.
That is a huge factor IMO.
Adderall raises your heart rate and messes up blood circulation not to mention the really bad cotton mouth (dehydration). get it right doggie.
Yea those are some negative side effects. You forgot increased energy, motivation, possible increased tolerance for pain, etc. There is a reason it's banned in MMA competitions.
On the flip side, if Raszi regularly doses Addy, but skips it on fight day, we could see a lethargic/ sluggish lex.
raszi has a bad habit of not standing up straight. hes clearly taller than me and im 6'0, so i think hes in the 6'2-6'4 range.
im pretty skinny as well but i weigh 175, so adding on the pounds for 2-4 extra inches on raszi would put him about 195 which is what i think his in shape weight is. i know when he was out of shape he was slightly over 200. might be a little lower than 195 if hes been working out a lot recently
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PillPoppin United States. Apr 11 2011 18:59. Posts 71
interesting, im surprised its banned from MMA stuff. Although, correct me if im wrong, but it could be from an effort to keep the less intelligent meatheads, like that huntington beach frat boy whose name escapes me thats been on a few poker shows, from getting heart attacks in the ring. But hey my knowledge kind of ends at recreational and academic use. Things like poker, minesweeper, chain-smoking, doing dishes, and redundant math are just too compelling to even conceive of going to the gym when im tweaked out.
On April 11 2011 08:49 RaiZ wrote:
Shape isn't representative of the weight. There are guys who have strong bones (which are way heavier than the fat calories or whatever you can call it).
On the baal's picture he may looks a little "big" but he may have some slim bones perhaps ? So 78 Kg for 1m83 is pretty understandable imo.
Solid knowledge of anatomy going on here.
Baals face and mid section looks chubby but his arms look super skinny so around 75-80 sounds right.
On April 11 2011 17:59 PillPoppin wrote:
interesting, im surprised its banned from MMA stuff. Although, correct me if im wrong, but it could be from an effort to keep the less intelligent meatheads, like that huntington beach frat boy whose name escapes me
This is happening on November 22nd in Spain with a finalized format of 5 x 3 minute rounds and the bet of 100k euros each can only be collected through KO (going the distance is a draw).
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