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Defrag   Poland. Jul 09 2015 21:36. Posts 4119

LiquidPoker brings yet another offer to our members: just last month we offered you a special discount on PokerTracker 4 codes, then we prepared an rakeback offer for American players, started cooperation with Daily Fantasy Sports site and now we bring you one of the most wanted features - a high rakeback deal.

The deal we can offer is no longer a secret - we can offer direct 60% rakeback paid directly to players account, once a week. There are no extra requirements that go with the deal - just register and play, even if you rake €50 per month, you will still get your rakeback.

The offer is valid at Ipoker Network, at Winner Poker room.

If you would like to receive 60% rakeback, paid directly to your player account once a week, just use the registration link (use this link here or if it's not working due to adblock use banner provided at the end of the news) and... that's all! Good luck at the tables!

Winner Poker 60% rakeback: Open the rakeback account through clicking on the banner below and in the Bonus Code field you must write: TLPOKER
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I'm from the USA, can I play?
Sorry, but unfortunately Ipoker doesn't allow American players - you can hoewever check our news with a special offer prepared for the American players.
Check it under this link.

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Dinewbie   United States. Jul 10 2015 00:05. Posts 30

Deposit bonuses get subtracted from the rakeback right?

Btw I am Fujikura 

Highcard   Canada. Jul 10 2015 01:17. Posts 5335

i will think about it

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

K40Cheddar   United States. Jul 10 2015 06:55. Posts 2042

60% is pretty unreal good. Really wish I could get on that .

GG 

Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jul 10 2015 11:14. Posts 4691

Any reasonable traffic there on low-midstakes hu?


Trav94   Canada. Jul 10 2015 13:36. Posts 1536

Ipoker has a huge bot problem, no?


Defrag   Poland. Jul 10 2015 14:42. Posts 4119


  On July 09 2015 23:05 Dinewbie wrote:
Deposit bonuses get subtracted from the rakeback right?



Total returns turns always to be 60%, so yea, they do. Rake races should be on top of that.


  On July 10 2015 10:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Any reasonable traffic there on low-midstakes hu?



Cash or sng? Should be decent anyway, Ipoker is the 4th biggest network, bigger then Party and FTP.


  On July 10 2015 12:36 Trav94 wrote:
Ipoker has a huge bot problem, no?


Well, what can I say - impossible to know and I could say that "every site does", it's just a matter of how undetectable are they. Just look at recent PS case, 16 bots that won over million $ and raked twice that.

 Last edit: 10/07/2015 15:14

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jul 10 2015 18:58. Posts 8909

If I understand correctly the ipoker skins that offer high rb % such as this use a different method to calculate rake, which means winning players get nowhere near 60%...


Defrag   Poland. Jul 10 2015 19:13. Posts 4119


  On July 10 2015 17:58 EvilSky wrote:
If I understand correctly the ipoker skins that offer high rb % such as this use a different method to calculate rake, which means winning players get nowhere near 60%...



Entire network uses the same way to calculate rake, it's not different between skins. The system is called Source Based Rake" (SBR) and it calculates the rake its way(tbh its very complex) and then we pay out 60% out of it. Other poker rooms also operate on different methods of counting rake (eg. dealt vs weighted contributed).

Good explanation in details was posted on pokertube some time ago: https://www.pokertube.com/poker-news/...on-of-source-based-rake-on-jan-1-2015

 Last edit: 10/07/2015 19:21

Rocks2BeGood   Netherlands. Jul 10 2015 19:35. Posts 3554


  On July 10 2015 17:58 EvilSky wrote:
If I understand correctly the ipoker skins that offer high rb % such as this use a different method to calculate rake, which means winning players get nowhere near 60%...



But with what kinda rackeback deal we can compare this then if this is the truth?

iD.VaLi on Pokerstars !! 

Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jul 10 2015 20:36. Posts 4691

Just mailed them because I didn't see The Netherlands listed in the countries you could register for. They mailed me back telling me they ceased operations in The Netherlands due to the regulations here.


Rocks2BeGood   Netherlands. Jul 10 2015 22:36. Posts 3554

That sucks. Why can we play on the other sites then if they dont allow dutch players?

iD.VaLi on Pokerstars !!Last edit: 10/07/2015 22:43

Rinny   United States. Jul 11 2015 03:57. Posts 551

'The new formula relies on the premise that recreational, net-depositing players have been undervalued for far too long, while the online pros who generate plenty of rake but are cashing out instead of depositing have been valued much too highly. iPoker has determined that "deposits are essential to ensure rake and fees can be generated out of the liquidity in the future and therefore recreational players are worth more.'

yeah the more you win the more you are raked, might be good at first though


Joe   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2015 10:58. Posts 5935

Quick google check indicates there are even 70% rb deals on iPoker.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

maryn   Poland. Jul 11 2015 11:51. Posts 1179

ipoker uses their own essence system so gl if u are winning player ur rakeback will be actually 1/2 or less than that


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jul 11 2015 17:35. Posts 1671

60% rakeback vs bots

no thx

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

diggerflopboat   . Jul 12 2015 19:38. Posts 241


  On July 10 2015 13:42 Defrag wrote:

Well, what can I say - impossible to know and I could say that "every site does", it's just a matter of how undetectable are they. Just look at recent PS case, 16 bots that won over million $ and raked twice that.

It's amazing how much of a read one can get on how solid your understand of this all is based on this 1 quote.

And it's all perfectly true, "impossible to know". However we can look at sites, all other things equal, in terms of profitability for the average player, or pro...and begin to accurately assess rake programs such as this one.


  On July 11 2015 02:57 Rinny wrote:
'The new formula relies on the premise that recreational, net-depositing players have been undervalued for far too long, while the online pros who generate plenty of rake but are cashing out instead of depositing have been valued much too highly. iPoker has determined that "deposits are essential to ensure rake and fees can be generated out of the liquidity in the future and therefore recreational players are worth more.'

yeah the more you win the more you are raked, might be good at first though

Yes, I suspect fulltilt is about to roll out a similar program. This is not towards optimal for the players in any sense, nor is it a good move for sites. What seems to be happening is Stars is setting standards and the industry feels is can just move in tandem and over rake the game under the guise that it is to attract and sustain recreationals.

But the logic does not follow, since if x amount gets raked as profit, taking y amount from pros and giving it to recs (to be re-raked!), doesn't by any stretch of the imagination, help the sustainability of the ecosystem. Of course it's quit difficult to argue politically, since sites and marketers just call dissenters greedy regs that are taking the fun from recreationals and communities are full of recreational level players that believe they are winning pros.

The economics are simple and clear, NO shuffling of the rakeback system will bring any significant amount of favorable change to the players. The only favorable change in this regard is to guarantee previous % of profits stay in the game. Regs and Recs alike seek a profitable game. Anyone that argues that, players, members, sites, management, just doesn't understand basic economics and game theory.


whamm!   Albania. Jul 18 2015 06:45. Posts 10840

Now they're going after scripts and bots? Without bots the games will dry up, what's the matter with you people


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