Two poker rooms that accept US players added to LiquidPokers offer

It's been few months since we've added new poker rooms to our offer. We would like to happily inform you that in the light of recent events we managed to work out deals with two online poker rooms that accept American players, and that includes one poker room that offers direct player rakeback! You can read short info about Bovada Poker and Americas Cardroom below.

1. Bovada Poker
Probably the most popular poker room that accepts US players at the moment, licensed and regulated by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. Bovada was born when the Morris Mohawk Gaming Group (MMGG), previously operators of the Bodog brand decided to split their US action from Bodog and form their own brand. Bodog has been on the market since 2007, so the poker room management has a good knowledge of the market and players.
Poker room offers a variety of games, including a fast-paced Zoom-clone called Zone Poker.

As for the bonus offers, there is a 100% Welcome Bonus up to $1,000 on your first deposit.

If you are from US and would like to play online poker at Bovada, you can create your account at Bovada.lv right now using this link and start playing.

2. Americas Cardroom - rakeback!
Second poker room we are adding to our offer targeted for US players is Americas Cardroom. Poker room is open to players from 43 out of the 50 U.S states, so provided you don't live in Louisiana, Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, Nevada, or Washington State, you can sign up and play any time - 24 hours a day.

Americas Cardroom highly focuses on players security and trust - most of the cash-outs are processed within 24 hours and there is a dedicated phone line to players from US who have problems and questions regarding deposits and withdrawals. Games offered include Hold'em, Omaha, Omaha Hi/Lo, 7 Card Stud, 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo, and 32 Card Draw.

As for the bonuses, there is a standard 100% up to $1,000 first deposit bonus, but LiquidPoker deal is a little nicer - all our players get 27% rakeback.

If you are looking to get a 27% rakeback on Americas Cardroom, you can create your account from this link straight away and jumo into real money games available to US players.

hmm might have to put some moola on ACR with that rakeback deal

Anyone play on Americas Cardroom? Could you give some thoughts on the website?

Is playing online poker on these sites in the U.S. like Lock Poker type legal, or legal legal?

My understanding is that americas cardroom is legal, whereas bovada is not.

acr is a decent site very reg filled, bovada is a great site, if you grind 12 hrs a day play at acr because beast + rakeback then play acr, if you don't play 24/7 or play mtt's, then play @ Bovada

they are both quazi legal

I have heard about people having trouble getting money off of ACR. Never have that problem with Bovada.

It's interesting that one of the states that is not allowed to play on ACR is Nevada.

On June 17 2015 06:39 PuertoRican wrote: It's interesting that one of the states that is not allowed to play on ACR is Nevada.

My guess is because the state authorities wants their own gaming site - or a bigger slice of the pie. Who knows though.

is it worth it to play on these sites if you can play stars? Also when I click on the link, it just sends me to ACR main page, wheres the part where I get rakeback from LP? Maybe im an idiot but I dont get it..

On June 17 2015 21:16 DragOn_ wrote: is it worth it to play on these sites if you can play stars? Also when I click on the link, it just sends me to ACR main page, wheres the part where I get rakeback from LP? Maybe im an idiot but I dont get it..

By clicking on a link from our page you are transfered to ACRs site and logged under our affiliate account, meaning you will have rakeback.

lol wtf @ they are both quasi-legal?

They are both 100% illegal, as PS, FTP and UB were. They have absolutely nothing to do with the new legislation they are trying to do/bring to the USA.

On June 17 2015 22:50 careface_ wrote: lol wtf @ they are both quasi-legal? They are both 100% illegal, as PS, FTP and UB were. They have absolutely nothing to do with the new legislation they are trying to do/bring to the USA.

PS/FTP/UB were not illegal. If they were then Bovada/ACR/WPN/Lock would also have been shut down. It took a lot of pull to get the DOJ to just attack stars/ftp the way they did.

On June 18 2015 01:36 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2015 22:50 careface_ wrote: lol wtf @ they are both quasi-legal? They are both 100% illegal, as PS, FTP and UB were. They have absolutely nothing to do with the new legislation they are trying to do/bring to the USA. PS/FTP/UB were not illegal. If they were then Bovada/ACR/WPN/Lock would also have been shut down. It took a lot of pull to get the DOJ to just attack stars/ftp the way they did.

What in the actual fuck. Newb.. dude... really?

The monetary transactions through any institutions on U.S. soil (sites, banks, credit cards, 2nd hand transactional parties, etc.) with regard to unregulated gambling sites is strictly prohibited. The act of playing itself isn't illegal, it's the institutions that allow it to happen that get in shit.

The companies that decided to stay on decided to do it because they weighed the profit vs risk. Some companies pulled out earlier, but others stayed on because of the ridiculous profits (PS/FTP).

Shut down Bovada/lock/acr/wpn? If I was mounting a massive legal battle against a couple of giants, I wouldn't give a flying shit about a few mosquitoes either. If other sites were anywhere near as big as PS/FTP, you can be damn sure they would have been attacked like crazy too.

If you think for a second that bovada is legal, then you're a fool. Why do you think the Bodog company 'cut ties' and made it a shell *For the sole intention of tapping the American market*? Because they know that they're playing in the deep end after dark, and are trying to distance themselves from impending legal shenanigans.

All that being said, I was under the impression ACR is actually legit. I'm not really sure though, I haven't read up on it at all.

edit - I agree w/ you that it was definitely some big-wigs agenda to get this shit done, as it was going fine for years after UIGEA. If you guys remember though, there were several little hiccups here and there leading up to the big shutdown (meaning the US government harassing payment processors). Man, I read somewhere recently that the UIGEA was actually intended to stop illegal (read - government didn't rake it) racetrack bets from overseas. Yaay for the extra bullshit laws they add to bills to fuck people over without proper analysis and debate.

what newbsaibot said flirts with total-retardness, sorry, no offense, it's hard to be so badly informed and say such non-sense in so few words, but it happened

no offense again

So, my neighbor was telling me Pennsylvania is looking to make online poker regulated and legal in PA...

I could google but felt like asking here:

what the dilly yo?

Basically some bills have been introduced but haven't really gotten anywhere. So no nothing official has been passed in any way. Still, from all accounts it looks like its about a 50/50 chance it will be legalized in the next year.

Ok hold on, let me get something straight here. The reason that Bovada/ACR/WPN all get a free pass on highly illegal gambling operations is because they are nothing more than "a few mosquitoes" compared to the competition? Even though online poker is clearly 100% illegal and can be snap shut down by the gov't overnight? These last few sites housing 100% of the online USA poker market conducting millions of dollars in transactions and profit, just arent worth the time of the DOJ? An organization belonging to a gov't that will conduct a $500,000 full SWAT raid on a studio apartment because some guy had $3000 worth of pot inside? Your argument is that it's just not worth it for the gov't to pursue?

Lets make sure we understand what the UIGEA actually forbids; the processing of financial transactions for gambling related purposes. Here's the kicker, poker has yet to be conclusively classified as "gambling". Guess who the onus is on when it comes to the processing of these transactions? Banks. However the banks did not know who they were processing funds for since poker sites were obfuscating the origin of their transactions. Making a deposit via eCheck would say something like "Synergy Corp. LLC" or "QuestCo financial". They went so far as to build phony shell websites for them with a single splash page and generic phone number that basically went nowhere when dialed. In essence they were money laundering, however it's not laundering if the transaction in question itself is not illegal, which was always the big grey area when it came to online poker vs online casinos. Why do you think Stars/FTP rolled the dice with this for so long? Because they werent quite sure what might ever be done and what the fallout could be. This is exactly why Bovada continues to run and why they split from Bodog. In the long run it is probably profitable for them to just eat whatever punishment they are given if and when they finally get shut down. But make no mistake, if online poker was such a lock & shut case as you guys seem to think Bovada would have been toast a long time ago. The reason they arent yet is because what the DOJ initially did to stars stands on legally questionable ground. They basically insisted that they were in violation of the UIGEA because Poker = gambling and nobody really dared challenge them on it. Dont think for a second contributions from brick & mortar gambling operations had nothing to do with that.

In essence it took a rather large feat to get all the necessary legal paperwork through so that the DOJ could hit the 2 biggest targets worth their while. That worth was predicated on under the table handshakes and backroom deals coupled with lots of manipulating from the powers that be whom probably did not quite understand if poker should be considered gambling or not, and so they just went with it and said ok. We're talking about all the judges and what not necessary to grant the kind of warrants the gov't needed to seize all of those accounts. The reason Bovada still exists is precisely how Stars got shut down; the gov't doesnt have much of a leg to stand on so they cant really acquire the same level of complacency they got the first time to shut them down. There arent enough bribes and incentives coming through to establish the same concerted effort they got the first time. The only reason it's not worth the govt's time is because they gov't isnt getting the funding/pressure they were against Stars to do something about it. If it were nothing more than a simple legal matter they wouldnt need any kind of approval at all, they'd just shut them down instantly.