100nl K9s turned str8 but also flush completes

Submitted by : Zografa

** Game ID 1810573666 starting - 2008-01-11 18:25:58
** Mosegi [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - $ Cash Game) Real Money
- Hero sitting in seat 1 with $180.40
- noob367 sitting in seat 3 with $116.28 [Dealer]
- spanishon sitting in seat 4 with $78.65
- MikePipes sitting in seat 5 with $107.40
- Stegelberg sitting in seat 6 with $87.35
spanishon posted the small blind - $0.50
MikePipes posted the big blind - $1.00

Holecards
   
Stegelberg folded
Hero raised - $4.00
noob367 called - $4.00
spanishon folded
MikePipes folded

Flop (Pot : $9.50)

   
Hero bet - $7.00
noob367 called - $7.00

Turn (Pot : $23.50)

   
Hero bet - $14.00
noob367 raised - $50.00

I might be gay but I fold here vs most tight regs

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well, first of all, you should really have a plan of what to do when you bet this river. I think bet/fold and bet/shove can both reasonable against certain opponents, as well as c/c. But, do you think he waits until the turn to raise 2pair or a set? Probably not, so this is an easy bet/fold.

wooooow

this is an intresting one
and the most intresting thing is the guy you play with
GG
did you fold it?

fold pre xD

as played i'd go.. 'I knew I should have folded pre... serves me right... [insert favorite curse word]' then fold

edit: Banned for misreading hand.

partly depending upon the opponent, thats a terrible board to cbet out of position and I'd c/f that board sometimes (with the occasional balancing checkraise). You are only beating a bluff on the turn if he's not a complete freak, so if you call here you're also calling/shoving with like AJ. Essentially it looks like a fairly comfortable fold to me.

you might have an impulse to snapfold this but look at the board. what diamonds can he have that he also ccs then peels with?

if he ain't got 2 diamonds then he'd have to be retarded to not have 1.

go from there.

4d5d

he is in the CO, imo you shouldn't even be allowed to post on midstakes if you're advice is "fold pre xD"

as for the hand your turn bet sizing is something i have a problem with, you should bet like $17 at the least sometimes even pot it depending on opponents if you have a read that they 100% raise flush draws on the flop

you gotta be paying attention on opponents tendencies so you know wtf to do in these spots man. Like if opponent always raises draws then we can determine that in this hand he probably has something like AdTx and picked up the ace high draw on the turn instead of a made flush.

some guys this is a snap all in against, some guys this is a snap fold against .... i would never just call here

On January 12 2008 08:23 Svenman87 wrote: fold pre xD as played i'd go.. 'I knew I should have folded pre... serves me right... [insert favorite curse word] then fold

midstakes ban for this

if he plays solid and standard then my thought for this is simple: he doesnt slowplay a set on this flop and he doesnt play AdQx like this according to your description. also Im pretty sure he wont bluff with complete garbage whilst putting in half his remaining stack on the turn. it depends on what sort of hands he calls with in position pf though

Your turn bet screams "I don't have a flush, please raise me so I can fold nicely"... I would make a pot sized bet and check river. But since you got reraised, I think its a snap fold vs a solid TAG.

On January 12 2008 14:47 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2008 08:23 Svenman87 wrote: fold pre xD as played i'd go.. 'I knew I should have folded pre... serves me right... [insert favorite curse word] then fold midstakes ban for this

so that's what the red X means...

bet 20 on the turn and the hand plays itself.

you cant value bet small when the turn brings the best bluff card

listen to nf

how can u fold this? u put in a perfect trap bet imo i'd sleep a lot better going broke here then folding this hand... w/ that bet size ur screaming to be raised

Like many players said before you cant bet scared when a scared card hits the board! Thats like just asking for getting raised from almost anything and flush and ak. You basically CANT play this hand correctly after that bet on turn. Bet the turn 18++.