i personally think ths is a pretty good spot to bluff in his position....

But im not sure if he is thinking what im thinking...

Im thinking he thinks my majority of range is 8X and weak FDs that missed, his sizing allows us to perceive a KX going for value (which i dont doubt) but i also think he can get away with cheap bluffs liek 79 9T 45 57, XXhh and also random QT type of stuff... I think its a good river to bluff because it doesnt hit my range and is also blank enough for him to think i think he shouldnt be bluffing such a brick river...

What do you guys think? I leveled my self?

i think the question comes down to, does he think i fold an 8 here... and i think yes..

It's a leveling spot for some people, but the way i think of it is this: i'm just gona shove a balanced range.

i think it comes down to his 3betting tendencies. if he is the type that calls KJ KQ type stuff this deep sb v button you can feel good about calling when his value range on the end is only K8s AK KK AA and i guess the very rare 33 66 or 3xs. If he 3bets those merged broadways i think its a close-ish fold cause he has too many Kx combos. if its somewhere in between (as it is with most people) pretty damn tough.

if you think its really close and comes down to your leveling war about 8x hands then make your read based on that. i dont think youre being exploitable folding 56hh here though, you have plenty of better hands.

On December 27 2012 18:11 Daut wrote: i think it comes down to his 3betting tendencies. if he is the type that calls KJ KQ type stuff this deep sb v button you can feel good about calling when his value range on the end is only K8s AK KK AA and i guess the very rare 33 66 or 3xs. If he 3bets those merged broadways i think its a close-ish fold cause he has too many Kx combos. if its somewhere in between (as it is with most people) pretty damn tough. if you think its really close and comes down to your leveling war about 8x hands then make your read based on that. i dont think youre being exploitable folding 56hh here though, you have plenty of better hands.

good point... i wasnt too sure how he played KQ KJ but i assumed he'd 3bet coz i hadnt been 4betting very often that session. So yea its prob very very close

u dont fold an 8 ever, dont lie

On December 27 2012 18:54 Baalim wrote: u dont fold an 8 ever, dont lie

u caught me

On December 27 2012 19:35 RaSZi wrote: [x] hope

u think this is a terrible call?

if villain does agro barrel its okish spot i think. I think QQ has pretty similar value here same as your 6 (exc. blockers). I think it also depends on what villain saw you do. Call one, fold. Call two fold etc. If he is unknown reg its okish to call here and adjust from there. Dont think its super -ev.

On December 27 2012 21:44 RaSZi wrote: Don't have an opinion on it. Just that if you had the KQ and would have posted the hand, you would have typed that. Just seemed ironic.

u think that little of me? Lol

Every time I post [x] hope will be in situations where it cannot be good. I.e can be emprically proven to be bad. Not these can or can not be bad spots.

On December 27 2012 21:44 RaSZi wrote: Don't have an opinion on it. Just that if you had the KQ and would have posted the hand, you would have typed that. Just seemed ironic.

beat me to it.

was going to say villain prob posted this hand o some other forum and wrote [x] hope. nbd

lol...

u guys must be playing a different game than me. u have 3rd pr in a 3bet pot and your opponent went b/b/b. u have blockers to cards your opponent can potentially be bluffing with and he has few turn semi bluffs in his range.

your call is rly bad.

do you play 45hh differnetly on the turn here??