PokerStars Hand #80095663532:  Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2012/05/08 0:33:09 ET
Table Haremari V 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Devertonium ($486.39 in chips) 
Seat 2: BKA12 ($201 in chips) 
Seat 4: Stroggos_nz ($505.90 in chips) 
Seat 5: dankness3 ($211.29 in chips) 
Seat 6: Stumpi88 ($244.32 in chips) 
BKA12: posts small blind $1
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $2
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz 
 
 
dankness3: folds 
Stumpi88: folds 
Devertonium: raises $3 to $5
BKA12: folds 
Stroggos_nz: calls $3
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $11.00)
    

 
 
Stroggos_nz: checks 
Devertonium: bets $8
Stroggos_nz: raises $18 to $26
Devertonium: raises $32 to $58
Stroggos_nz: raises $84 to $142
Devertonium: raises $339.39 to $481.39 and is all-in
Stroggos_nz: calls $339.39
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $973.78)
    


 
 
River (Pot : $973.78)
    



 
 
Showdown
Stroggos_nz: shows 
 (four of a kind, Fives)
  (four of a kind, Fives)
Devertonium: shows 
 (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
  (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
Stroggos_nz collected $970.98 from pot
Summary
Total pot $973.78 | Rake $2.80 
Board  




Seat 1: Devertonium (button) showed 
 and lost with a full house, Nines full of Fives
  and lost with a full house, Nines full of Fives
Seat 2: BKA12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Stroggos_nz (big blind) showed 
 and won ($970.98) with four of a kind, Fives
  and won ($970.98) with four of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: dankness3 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Stumpi88 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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                            |  | mnj   United States. May 08 2012 00:47. Posts 3848 |  |  |  |  | 
 
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                            |  | mnj   United States. May 08 2012 00:47. Posts 3848 |  |  |  | | but on a serious note, this is standard everyone agrees?(feel like i would have secretly folded
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                            |  | Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 08 2012 00:49. Posts 5365 |  |  |  | | getting it in here with 55 isn't fantastic-because it's hard for them to get it in with worse. might be better to flat flop 3bet and call downedit: i knew a 5 was coming that's why i got it in
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 |  | | One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings | Last edit: 08/05/2012 01:07 | 
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                            |  | mnj   United States. May 08 2012 01:52. Posts 3848 |  |  |  | | glad you did   respect your work ethic
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                            |  | n0rthf4ce    United States. May 08 2012 02:04. Posts 8119 |  |  |  | | how can you NOT play it this way in a 5 handed game? | 
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                            |  | superfashion   United States. May 08 2012 02:14. Posts 918 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  May 08 2012 01:04  n0rthf4ce wrote: how can you NOT play it this way in a 5 handed game?
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 i'm glad someone else said this because i'm missing it too
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 |  | | shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking  - TalentedTom |  | 
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                            |  | Highcard   Canada. May 08 2012 03:11. Posts 5428 |  |  |  | | nice way to win EV back ^^  good job | 
 |  | | I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time |  | 
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                            |  | lebowski   Greece. May 08 2012 04:29. Posts 9205 |  |  |  | | someone explain how this being 5 handed is relevant? | 
 |  | | new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... |  | 
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                            |  | Eluflop   Estonia. May 08 2012 05:13. Posts 3835 |  |  |  |  | 
 
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                            |  | TampaBayMat   United States. May 08 2012 11:56. Posts 249 |  |  |  | | Lets say the absolute loosest our opponent gets approx 240BBs in @ NLHE is the OE+FD
 % Opponent wins vs our hand.
 
 QJcc 40 / 60
 78cc 40 / 60
 9s9h 95 / 5
 9d9s 95 / 5
 9d9h 95 / 5
 TsTc 95 / 5
 TcTh 95 / 5
 ThTs 95 / 5
 
 Hero equity vs Opponent's range: 18.75%
 Opponent's range equity: 81.25%
 
 I think the critical decision point is when he 6bet/shoves:
 Stroggos_nz: raises $84 to $142
 Devertonium: raises $339.39 to $481.39 and is all-in
 
 $339.39 (amount to call) divided by $973.78 (total pot) = 34.85%
 
 18.75% < 34.85% = fold.
 
 *I'm at work and don't have pokerstove on hand, so thats kind of a loose equity breakdown at the top.
 
 **Also, I'm assigning his hand range as a normal player (no crazy reads to adjust hand range accordingly)
 
 ***I prolly would have still called and said "fuck me, right?"... lol.
 
 -*-*- does anyone think hes 6betting with top 2? lemme know.
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                            |  | devon06atX   Canada. May 08 2012 12:42. Posts 5460 |  |  |  | | i'd venture to guess villain also shoves 109 here | 
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                            |  | TampaBayMat   United States. May 08 2012 13:13. Posts 249 |  |  |  | | 
 |  | On  May 08 2012 11:42  devon06atX wrote: i'd venture to guess villain also shoves 109 here
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 shove, yes... 6bet? i dont think so... 6betting (even with 240ish BBs) implies "i have the effing nuts"
 i think T9 overjams on the 4bet, personally
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