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Handnr: 969887
Submitted by : dryath

PokerStars Zoom Hand #78880255517: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2012/04/15 11:04:32 AEST [2012/04/14 21:04:32 ET]
Table Holmia 6-max
Seat 1: Radje ($511.91 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($474.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Tzokill ($130.53 in chips)
Seat 4: Slamca ($127.32 in chips)
Seat 5: Buzzfuzz23 ($111.11 in chips)
Seat 6: beepokerking ($524.92 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $1
Tzokill: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero 7h7d
Slamca: folds
Buzzfuzz23: folds
beepokerking: folds
Radje: raises $2 to $4
Hero: calls $3
Tzokill: folds

Flop (Pot : $10.00)

   Kd7c6s
Hero: checks
Radje: bets $6
Hero: raises $12 to $18
Radje: calls $12

Turn (Pot : $46.00)

   Kd7c6sJs
Hero: bets $40
Radje: calls $40

River (Pot : $126.00)

   Kd7c6sJs8c
Hero: bets $118
Radje: raises $331.91 to $449.91 and is all-in
Hero:

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rememp   Canada. Apr 14 2012 21:20. Posts 480

Include stats if you can.

If he's any type of reg he's showing up with 45ss or 3 combos of jj which he might raise on the turn. I mean maybe he slowplays kk??

I think he has enough air in his range that you need to call even ~240bb deep.

Take it with a grain of salt, I play below nl200.

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xicotaSLB   Portugal. Apr 14 2012 21:27. Posts 1124

your range is soooo strong i dont think he is ever bluffing this


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 14 2012 21:28. Posts 4402

snap call

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julep   Australia. Apr 14 2012 21:36. Posts 1274

flop raise is too small imo


dryath   Australia. Apr 14 2012 22:10. Posts 1317

stats: hes quite nitty, and likes to check back alot of flops, prob has a cbet of like 50% or something (i have a smallish sample - few hundo hands) - this is rusher poker also
yeah i felt the same way, i dont even think he has KK or JJ here when he does this as weird as that feels. Feels exactly like 9T and nothing else, *maybe* sometimes the KK JJ hands but not as often. Results: i tanked for ages and folded


Trolala   Estonia. Apr 14 2012 22:42. Posts 2050

how can you put T9 in his range?

However it might be 54

 Last edit: 14/04/2012 22:42

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Apr 14 2012 23:11. Posts 5638

Interesting hand.. would 9T peel the flop? and turn too, I guess double gutshot implied odds with a disgused draw make it ok to peel, still seems loose for a nit though.
That said, its just that nits dont bluff eh. so he has to be valuebetting worse and thats hard to see. so probably a good fold, one I would find hard to make. I think KK is likely, nits love to slowplay and trap, desperate to get value.

$294 tocall /$656 in pot = 30.4% need to be winning 30% of the time. In this kinda spot have you seen nits show up with a bluff or a too-thin vbet more than 3 out of ten times.

heh, actually... thinking about it could run a filter to answer this in PT/HEM if you have a bigt database. Filter for low VPIP and for river shoves that got called, and see what they are showing up with.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 14 2012 23:22. Posts 8633

maybe im a nit but i fold also

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Maynard!   United States. Apr 14 2012 23:42. Posts 4453

SOOOOOOOPER easy call. Guy is a loon and would do this with air.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 14/04/2012 23:43

Fayth    Canada. Apr 14 2012 23:56. Posts 10085


  On April 14 2012 22:42 Maynard! wrote:
SOOOOOOOPER easy call. Guy is a loon and would do this with air.


and how does he get to the river with air...

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Maynard!   United States. Apr 14 2012 23:58. Posts 4453

BC he double floated you bc hes mad. But seriously I can see this guy turning a hand into a bluff here very often.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 14/04/2012 23:58

Fayth    Canada. Apr 15 2012 00:06. Posts 10085

I assume u know the guy? cuz with dryath's current information it looks like a clear fold

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 15 2012 00:50. Posts 20070


  On April 14 2012 21:42 Trolala wrote:
how can you put T9 in his range?

However it might be 54



?? flop and turn call with T9 here is 100% standard with stack sizes + position

I think this is a preety easy fold vs most players, i'd need a super star read to call here

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mnj   United States. Apr 15 2012 00:56. Posts 3848

interesting flop raise, am i the only one who likes to flat here and raise turns? can't you rep more air/drawy hands that way?


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 15 2012 01:20. Posts 4741


  On April 14 2012 21:10 dryath wrote:
stats: hes quite nitty, and likes to check back alot of flops, prob has a cbet of like 50% or something (i have a smallish sample - few hundo hands) - this is rusher poker also
yeah i felt the same way, i dont even think he has KK or JJ here when he does this as weird as that feels. Feels exactly like 9T and nothing else, *maybe* sometimes the KK JJ hands but not as often. Results: i tanked for ages and folded



Would he call the raise on the flop with a gutshot?


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 15 2012 01:22. Posts 4741


Hmm, Maybe he has a K, and picked up a flush draw, and on your river bet he felt he was fucked, but he decided to make it to a bluff lol.

Gut says fold though, but it sounds more exciting to "analyze" and find a call lol

In my experience, a raise is almost always the nuts though.


Fayth    Canada. Apr 15 2012 01:32. Posts 10085

im sure everybody who said snap call would snap fold KJ in this spot

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Maynard!   United States. Apr 15 2012 02:14. Posts 4453


  On April 14 2012 23:06 Fayth wrote:
I assume u know the guy? cuz with dryath's current information it looks like a clear fold



Ya. Dude pulled somewhat similar trick on me twice when we were 2-3 BI deep. First time I almost folded a boat second time I snapped with a set (I looked weaker). One time he had a pair turned bluff and the other time he had K high.

Some people spaz deep.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 15/04/2012 02:16

djforever   Canada. Apr 15 2012 03:07. Posts 1510

radje got nitty? he used to be pretty crazy...


PoorUser    United States. Apr 15 2012 05:25. Posts 7397

probably dont pot the river.

seems like a pretty normal fold if hes nitty at all

Moneys gotta go in here 

el_Pato   Poland. Apr 15 2012 06:53. Posts 16

Flop raise is imo too small.
9Ts, or 9Td easily can call flop w/backdoor flush, and also turn picking up double gutter


DooMeR   United States. Apr 15 2012 12:19. Posts 8480

i dunno how often hes bluffing here i would assume never but he has every combo of KK here raising at any other point in the hand with KK on this board is retarded

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 16 2012 15:47. Posts 32959


  On April 14 2012 23:50 TalentedTom wrote:
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?? flop and turn call with T9 here is 100% standard with stack sizes + position

I think this is a preety easy fold vs most players, i'd need a super star read to call here


exactly T9 is for sure in his range with a lose call on the flop with outs and steal opportunities and he obv aint going to fold when he turns a double gutter

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