vs reg, like or hate?

Doesn't make a load of sense to me, just looks like button clicking...

Yeah, seems to be a big disconnect between preflop ranges and postflop action. You know you are calling an utg in nitring with KJo from the blinds right? That is very non standard most likely, you should be playing tighter and folding. Maybe this guy was really loose utg?

You also need some pretty good history (or him to be a bad player) for you to be checkraising the turn on this board for value. Why are you check raising turn?

And the river you push? Again why? What about this player, or your history with this player, makes playing K with J kicker for stacks appropriate? Again, consider the fact that he is raising utg when thinking about these questions!

In my opinion, it looks like you might have different plans pre flop and then your brain switches plans once you actually hit something and you just kind of flip out postflop.

I would start by considering opponents ranges at all points in the hand. What his villains utg range? How should you exploit that?

What is villains turn range? After the check raise?

What is villains river range? Seems like you ran into the bottom of the villains range and still lost : / ..... think about that.

this is terrible, purely nonsensical play

My logic:

utg raise 1st 13%
+ 75% vpip fish
reg flop cbet is ~50, turn 44

when he bets flop/turn I put him on AA/AK/KQ, although AA would prolly aim for bigger bets.

The fact that I am holding K assures me that he doesn't have KK.
X-R on the turn is standard set play. So I am bluffing the turn.

After he calls turn I am putting him on AA. As my play looks very strong, I think that jamming will win me the pot.
I suppose he put me on 23s, K7s, K3s, K2s or he just clicked call btn

The real question is should I bluff the river too?


About the disconnect between ranges and postflop action: Opponent doesn't know what I have, so I might as well play vs opponent in a balanced way.
I called UTG so he might as well perceive me as having a strong hand.

On January 27 2012 17:32 EvilSky wrote: this is terrible, purely nonsensical play

Hero is bluffing and playing it like a set.
Sets are often played w x-r on the turn.

On January 27 2012 17:40 Trolala wrote: My logic: utg raise 1st 13% + 75% vpip fish reg flop cbet is ~50, turn 44 when he bets flop/turn I put him on AA/AK/KQ, although AA would prolly aim for bigger bets. The fact that I am holding K assures me that he doesn't have KK. X-R on the turn is standard set play. So I am bluffing the turn. After he calls turn I am putting him on AA. As my play looks very strong, I think that jamming will win me the pot. I suppose he put me on 23s, K7s, K3s, K2s or he just clicked call btn The real question is should I bluff the river too? About the disconnect between ranges and postflop action: Opponent doesn't know what I have, so I might as well play vs opponent in a balanced way. I called UTG so he might as well perceive me as having a strong hand.

this isnt the rofl thread

You shouldnt call preflop planning to bluff the opponent. If you want to play a pot with the fish, squeeze with kj and iso the fish. Dont call and play oop 3 way.

On January 27 2012 19:02 handbanana21 wrote: You shouldnt call preflop planning to bluff the opponent. If you want to play a pot with the fish, squeeze with kj and iso the fish. Dont call and play oop 3 way.

Come on, cut the guy some slack...it's not like we are gonna spew of our stack against the early position raiser or something

On January 27 2012 17:40 Trolala wrote: My logic: I suppose he put me on 23s, K7s, K3s, K2s

-_-

Im sorry its not nonsense its just severe FPS, which is slightly better but still very bad. You will got busto by trying to get people off the top of their range while only repping sets.

On January 27 2012 17:42 Trolala wrote: Show nested quote + On January 27 2012 17:32 EvilSky wrote: this is terrible, purely nonsensical play Hero is bluffing and playing it like a set. Sets are often played w x-r on the turn.

just dont ever try to rep a set, do you know how hard it is to hit a set?

lol "I suppose he puts me on 23s K2s K3s K7s

do you really call with these hands from bb when UTG raise?

nigga plz

didnt read comments coz im drunk, easy fold pre vs most regs, they dont open UTG on fullring 25%+. If id do anything id 3bet do get rid of utg anf play HU vs weak caller range

LoL scrolled to the part where it says "Here's my logic" then proceeded to just scroll down to further replies >< .

On January 27 2012 22:04 LikeASet wrote: LoL scrolled to the part where it says "Here's my logic" then proceeded to just scroll down to further replies >< .

LOL.

On January 27 2012 19:36 drone666 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 27 2012 17:42 Trolala wrote:   On January 27 2012 17:32 EvilSky wrote: this is terrible, purely nonsensical play Hero is bluffing and playing it like a set. Sets are often played w x-r on the turn.

god i knew someone will post this. still lol

What everyone is trying to say is, don't try to bluff people off of strong hands, especially only 100 bb deep. That plan from the start is horrible.

On January 27 2012 17:40 Trolala wrote: My logic: utg raise 1st 13% + 75% vpip fish reg flop cbet is ~50, turn 44 when he bets flop/turn I put him on AA/AK/KQ, although AA would prolly aim for bigger bets. The fact that I am holding K assures me that he doesn't have KK. X-R on the turn is standard set play. So I am bluffing the turn. After he calls turn I am putting him on AA. As my play looks very strong, I think that jamming will win me the pot. I suppose he put me on 23s, K7s, K3s, K2s or he just clicked call btn The real question is should I bluff the river too? About the disconnect between ranges and postflop action: Opponent doesn't know what I have, so I might as well play vs opponent in a balanced way. I called UTG so he might as well perceive me as having a strong hand.

On January 27 2012 17:44 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On January 27 2012 17:40 Trolala wrote: My logic: utg raise 1st 13% + 75% vpip fish reg flop cbet is ~50, turn 44 when he bets flop/turn I put him on AA/AK/KQ, although AA would prolly aim for bigger bets. The fact that I am holding K assures me that he doesn't have KK. X-R on the turn is standard set play. So I am bluffing the turn. After he calls turn I am putting him on AA. As my play looks very strong, I think that jamming will win me the pot. I suppose he put me on 23s, K7s, K3s, K2s or he just clicked call btn The real question is should I bluff the river too? About the disconnect between ranges and postflop action: Opponent doesn't know what I have, so I might as well play vs opponent in a balanced way. I called UTG so he might as well perceive me as having a strong hand. this isnt the rofl thread

haha