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Handnr: 891540
Submitted by : HaiVan

PokerStars Game #57889641909: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2011/02/18 23:54:32 EET [2011/02/18 16:54:32 ET]
Table Hicks XIII 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: radon99 ($15.17 in chips)
Seat 2: h3su ($73.18 in chips)
Seat 3: HaiVan ($25.67 in chips)
Seat 4: velitschkq ($28.99 in chips)
Seat 5: shrapnel60 ($28.63 in chips)
Seat 6: Nordysh ($29 in chips)
velitschkq: posts small blind $0.10
shrapnel60: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HaiVan KcAc
Nordysh: folds
radon99: folds
Nordysh leaves the table
h3su: calls $0.25
Jarak89 joins the table at seat #6
Jarak89 leaves the table
HaiVan: raises $1 to $1.25
velitschkq: folds
shrapnel60: folds
h3su: calls $1

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.85)

   Kd7h6d
h3su: checks
HaiVan: bets $1.63
h3su: calls $1.63

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.11)

   Kd7h6d5s
h3su: checks
HaiVan: bets $3.49
h3su: calls $3.49

River (Pot : $13.09)

   Kd7h6d5sQc
h3su: checks
HaiVan: bets $7.47
h3su: calls $7.47

Showdown
HaiVan: shows KcAc (a pair of Kings)
h3su: shows 5d5c (three of a kind, Fives)
h3su collected $26.67 from pot

Summary
Total pot $28.03 | Rake $1.36
Board  Kd7h6d5sQc
Seat 1: radon99 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: h3su showed 5d5c and won ($26.67) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: HaiVan (button) showed KcAc and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: velitschkq (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: shrapnel60 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Nordysh folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Feb 18 2011 17:01. Posts 2083

check back ?

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Poker chobo. 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 18 2011 17:11. Posts 8648

never

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Feb 18 2011 17:50. Posts 1429

but bet bigger on flop and the turn, like 2,25 on flop and 6 on the turn


TheHuHu3   United States. Feb 18 2011 18:11. Posts 5544

$2.25 on flop.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

TalentedTom    Canada. Feb 18 2011 19:18. Posts 20070

HaiVan, to make money in poker you need to really punish weaker hands on the flop / turn, thats where you make a lot of money, by bitchbetting you give draws near neutral EV price to draw, wich means you arnt making money. In poker you only make money when your opponent makes a mistake, and the way you played this hand you arn't really exploiting this player / his range of hands on this board texture

a simple way to look at it, if a draw is a 3:1 underdog and is getting 3:1 to draw, hes getting neutral EV odds to continue + if he ever wins money on the river hes +EV. Therefore if you bet half pot against a guy whos range is roughly 3:1 underdog vs your range, you are actually not making money, infact you prob end up losing money due to rake. To add to that if a draw is 4:1 uderdog, and you give him 3:1 to draw, you only make the difference, your profit margin is gonna be SUPER small and you will experience a shitload of varience

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edzwoo   United States. Feb 18 2011 20:20. Posts 5911


  On February 18 2011 18:18 TalentedTom wrote:
HaiVan, to make money in poker you need to really punish weaker hands on the flop / turn, thats where you make a lot of money, by bitchbetting you give draws near neutral EV price to draw, wich means you arnt making money. In poker you only make money when your opponent makes a mistake, and the way you played this hand you arn't really exploiting this player / his range of hands on this board texture

a simple way to look at it, if a draw is a 3:1 underdog and is getting 3:1 to draw, hes getting neutral EV odds to continue + if he ever wins money on the river hes +EV. Therefore if you bet half pot against a guy whos range is roughly 3:1 underdog vs your range, you are actually not making money, infact you prob end up losing money due to rake. To add to that if a draw is 4:1 uderdog, and you give him 3:1 to draw, you only make the difference, your profit margin is gonna be SUPER small and you will experience a shitload of varience



Tom never bets 2/3 pot or less, has a huge winrate, and probably makes all villains hate him!


Maynard!   United States. Feb 18 2011 20:43. Posts 4453

In my experience Tom bets 90% or 20% rarely in between.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Jhyun88   United States. Feb 18 2011 21:21. Posts 1383

I like that word "bitchbetting" going to use it more often.


sunnysky7   . Feb 19 2011 01:31. Posts 1549

this guy is just a hate money retard , never chk the river
I would make it 2.2 on the flop , 6.25 on the turn , maybe 1/2-2/3 PSB on the river
on the turn or river if he minraised or w/e chk/raise I just fold , althought river complete KQ , but theres KJ would call the river
its super drawy on the turn so u have to make ur size bigger to punish retard playing their draw passively
beside the set theres a lot of worse hands u could get 2 streets value at least
and all normal humans would raise the set or 2p on the flop or the turn


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Feb 19 2011 01:38. Posts 2083

thanks guys

Poker chobo. 

 

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