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Handnr: 51668
Submitted by : Verbloten

PokerStars Game #5630058506: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/07/21 - 08:17:52 (ET)
Table 'Marcelle' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: WCGplayer ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerlime ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Pile_of_Chip ($11.05 in chips)
Seat 4: sgold ($37.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Verbloten ($34.95 in chips)
Seat 6: SuffolkPunch ($103.95 in chips)
Seat 7: NineOne0ne ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 8: tugman1031 ($22 in chips)
Seat 9: Maxmx ($28.80 in chips)
WCGplayer: posts small blind $0.10
pokerlime: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Verbloten JhJd
Pile_of_Chip: folds
sgold: folds
Verbloten: raises $0.75 to $1
SuffolkPunch: folds
NineOne0ne: folds
tugman1031: folds
Maxmx: folds
WCGplayer: folds
pokerlime: raises $7.15 to $8.15 and is all-in
Verbloten said, "should i fold this?"
Verbloten said, "give me a sec"
Verbloten: folds
pokerlime collected $2.10 from pot
pokerlime: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $2.10 | Rake $0
Seat 1: WCGplayer (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: pokerlime (big blind) collected ($2.10)
Seat 3: Pile_of_Chip folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sgold folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Verbloten folded before Flop
Seat 6: SuffolkPunch folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NineOne0ne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tugman1031 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Maxmx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

IS THIS JUST WRONG TO FOLD THIS???

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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jul 21 2006 06:23. Posts 1687

at these stakes yep.

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poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

Verbloten   Australia. Jul 21 2006 06:25. Posts 1889

yeh Grot agrees with you... i thought coinflip at best!


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jul 21 2006 06:25. Posts 1687

The point is - with 32 big blinds people at those stakes are pushing A9-A5s sometimes K9 KJ 55 44 88 etcetc

They're all hands you'll see. You're losing money by folding this, even if ur opp has AK then you're still a favourite and the pot is laying you odds.

In the words of David Sklansky "Do you see why?"

edit- Hell i've even seen people push 76 at these stakes (and even higher heh)

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 21/07/2006 06:26

Verbloten   Australia. Jul 21 2006 06:26. Posts 1889

yeh thanks man - i will call next time i am faced with this.. but only vs short stacks - i wouldn't call this if the guy had 25


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jul 21 2006 06:30. Posts 1687

ok I agree but sometimes you have to make the call because it will often be the best hand
if they're:
1) full stack
2) They are SOLID players, if they're not solid it edges towards a call, I know as a somewhat experiences player you're thinking "Well how can he put in 100 big blinds before the flop," hell I don't know but you see it and thats the point, I think I'm more referring to QQ here than JJ when I Say you quite often have to call the all in p/f at these stakes, JJ's tricky because your behind another hand and flipping with another hand and thus beating two less hands.

Ok I'm rambling you know whats going on

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

Verbloten   Australia. Jul 21 2006 06:34. Posts 1889

yeh got it - thanks


straate   Argentina. Jul 21 2006 06:52. Posts 2837

i'd be torn between calling and folding... i think id prob call here tho, but this is probably the biggest stack id call JJ allin to preflop

silverfox971: if this was a live game i would spit on you 

 

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