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Handnr: 1079373
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #181909630780: Holdem No Limit ($100/$200 USD) - 2018/02/02 13:17:45 ET
Table Amalasuntha II 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: LLinusLLove ($92308.33 in chips)
Seat 5: wilhasha ($35106.69 in chips)
wilhasha: posts small blind $100
LLinusLLove: posts big blind $200

Holecards(Odds)
wilhasha: raises $300 to $500
LLinusLLove: raises $1500 to $2000
wilhasha: calls $1500

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4,000.00)

   4h5d2s
LLinusLLove: bets $1598.07
wilhasha: calls $1598.07

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $7,196.14)

   4h5d2s9h
LLinusLLove: bets $1798.87
wilhasha: raises $5101.13 to $6900
LLinusLLove: raises $81810.26 to $88710.26 and is all-in
wilhasha: calls $24608.62 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($57201.64) returned to LLinusLLove
*** FIRST RIVER *** 4h5d2s9h 7c
*** SECOND RIVER *** 4h5d2s9h Th
*** FIRST SHOW DOWN ***
LLinusLLove: shows KhKc (a pair of Kings)
wilhasha: shows 6s9s (a pair of Nines)
LLinusLLove collected $35105.19 from pot
*** SECOND SHOW DOWN ***
LLinusLLove: shows KhKc (a pair of Kings)
wilhasha: shows 6s9s (a pair of Nines)
LLinusLLove collected $35105.19 from pot

Summary
Total pot $70213.38 | Rake $3
Hand was run twice
Board  4h5d2s9h7c
Board  4h5d2s9hTh
Seat 1: LLinusLLove (big blind) showed KhKc and won ($35105.19) with a pair of Kings, and won ($35105.19) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: wilhasha (button) (small blind) showed 6s9s and lost with a pair of Nines, and lost with a pair of Nines



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lebowski   Greece. Feb 13 2018 20:18. Posts 8872

weird, does he always bet turn 1/4, even on such dynamic boards?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 13 2018 21:09. Posts 3680

its a very strange play to me, any ace high and gutshot or pair can play perfectly against it.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_au 

fira   United States. Feb 13 2018 23:40. Posts 6242

seems like a good way to play his entire range to get to river, but yeah he can't expect any folds on turn at all

we go on 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 14 2018 00:27. Posts 3680

i'll be really suprised if solvers advocate this...but i have been suprised many times by solvers. Im doing a rough sim for it, i would have thought anything between 50% and 100%+ pot size would be what a solver does.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_au 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 14 2018 01:03. Posts 3680

solver likes a pot size bet. i put 25, 50, 88 bet sizes in and it overwhelmingly likes 88% pot size with KK. the ev difference between 1/3 and pot is virtally nothing...but that is almost always the case. It definitely seem like an exploit linus is going for here.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_au 

fira   United States. Feb 14 2018 11:41. Posts 6242


  On February 14 2018 00:03 Stroggoz wrote:
solver likes a pot size bet. i put 25, 50, 88 bet sizes in and it overwhelmingly likes 88% pot size with KK. the ev difference between 1/3 and pot is virtally nothing...but that is almost always the case. It definitely seem like an exploit linus is going for here.


the ev difference between 1/3 and pot is virtually nothing, yet it overwhelmingly likes 88% over 25%? does not compute... if the ev difference is so small then what does it mean for the solver to overwhelmingly prefer one size over the others?

we go onLast edit: 14/02/2018 11:42

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 14 2018 14:27. Posts 3680

if you win more money with a decision, even if its a small amount, your always going to do it. The reason EV differences are often really small, i think, is because it's doing it at the perfect frequency. the ev difference with checking is extremely small too. That's because all the frequencies are at equilibrium, but if you bet 1/4 here 90% of the time and pot it 10% of the time, the frequencies are far from equalibrium, and ev differences would become far different. So it's picking the the most balanced, mixed strategy where the ev changes very little no matter what you do.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 14/02/2018 17:25

 

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