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Handnr: 1031605
Submitted by : Trav94

PokerStars Hand #113493116388: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2014/03/18 18:16:24 PT [2014/03/18 21:16:24 ET]
Table Grogler II 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Shkurah0d ($20.06 in chips)
Seat 2: cpokersoul ($10 in chips)
Seat 3: h3ll1982 ($13 in chips)
Seat 4: sullyuno ($15.16 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($18.04 in chips)
Seat 6: TommyTitan ($13.69 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.05
TommyTitan: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KsKh
Shkurah0d: raises $0.20 to $0.30
cpokersoul: folds
h3ll1982: folds
sullyuno: folds
Hero: raises $0.90 to $1.20
TommyTitan: folds
Shkurah0d: calls $0.90

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.50)

   7s8d6d
Hero: bets $1.80
Shkurah0d: calls $1.80

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.10)

   7s8d6d9h
Hero: bets $4.40
Shkurah0d: raises $12.66 to $17.06 and is all-in
Hero: calls $10.64 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.02) returned to Shkurah0d

River (Pot : $36.18)

   7s8d6d9hAh

Showdown
Hero: shows KsKh (a pair of Kings)
Shkurah0d: shows 5c5h (a straight, Five to Nine)
Shkurah0d collected $34.68 from pot

Summary
Total pot $36.18 | Rake $1.50
Board  7s8d6d9hAh
Seat 1: Shkurah0d showed 5c5h and won ($34.68) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 2: cpokersoul folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: h3ll1982 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: sullyuno (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Hero (small blind) showed KsKh and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: TommyTitan (big blind) folded before Flop

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Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 21:22. Posts 1785

How bad did I spew. Guy is 19/18/7 over 180 hands. We have a dynamic going. I was 3betting the fish on my right a lot, and he was 4bet squeezing. He likes to call 3bets really wide as well. I basically figured he had air/JJ/QQ.. wtf.

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lhr0909   China. Mar 18 2014 21:51. Posts 423

Equilab:

Board: 8d6d7s9h
Equity Win Tie
MP2 46.50% 39.93% 6.57% { 22+, A4s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+ } ====> did it with 19% range
SB 53.50% 46.92% 6.57% { KhKs }

pot odds is 27.56 / 10.64 = 2.590225563909774 to 1

math seems to show that you are good to call.

no pain no gain 

r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 21:51. Posts 1580

yea id check an cry when he bets OTT 180 deep but prob still call and xf river..77 88 66 he raises flop , 99 i dont know but imo not, 55 happy to see turn too... TT prob doesnt 4bet JJ maybe not too that deep, QQ KK AA 4bets imo...

You gotta plow through that shit !  

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 21:59. Posts 1785


  On March 18 2014 20:51 lhr0909 wrote:
Equilab:

Board: 8d6d7s9h
Equity Win Tie
MP2 46.50% 39.93% 6.57% { 22+, A4s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+ } ====> did it with 19% range
SB 53.50% 46.92% 6.57% { KhKs }

pot odds is 27.56 / 10.64 = 2.590225563909774 to 1

math seems to show that you are good to call.



This range is wrong. He's not playing the turn like that with 100% of his range....


r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 22:04. Posts 1580

You gotta plow through that shit !  

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 18 2014 22:07. Posts 8646

pretty bad. why would he flat QQ/JJ on flop and then shove it on this turn? if he was 4-betting you a lot, why wouldn't he 4-bet a hand like QQ/JJ? if he's flatting your 3-bets really wide, why would you limit his range to QQ/JJ or air? KK also happens to block a bunch of his possible broadway hands like KQ KJ which account for a bunch of the air hands you could hope for him to have (and it's not even that realistic to think he's doing this with air even with the spewiest of dynamics).

and yeah that equity calculation belongs in the rofl thread

Truck-Crash Life 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 22:08. Posts 1785

Yea I realized this was bad, that's why I asked how hard I spewed lol


r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 22:08. Posts 1580

and yeah that equity calculation belongs in the rofl thread

You gotta plow through that shit !  

r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 22:09. Posts 1580

pretty hard spew , if you know me from the tables i spew hard sometimes but this spew 180 deep is too hard even for me ...

You gotta plow through that shit !  

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 22:10. Posts 1785

Yea, I haven't spewed this hard in a while. But whatever


r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 22:13. Posts 1580

if he likes to call 3b wider and we are 180 deep def we can include some AT, JT, QT, KT suited in his calling range preflop ...

You gotta plow through that shit !  

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 22:15. Posts 1785

Pretty sure I was just trying to justify my bullshit with my comment


r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 18 2014 22:15. Posts 1580

JTss QTss ATss KTss have backdoors and gutshot and clubs hearts dont , i am not good in those calculations , anyone pls do this for TURN ?

You gotta plow through that shit !  

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 18 2014 22:20. Posts 8646


  On March 18 2014 21:08 Trav94 wrote:
Yea I realized this was bad, that's why I asked how hard I spewed lol



i was just answering the question "how bad did i spew"

Truck-Crash Life 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 22:22. Posts 1785


  On March 18 2014 21:20 bigredhoss wrote:
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i was just answering the question "how bad did i spew"


I appreciate it when better plays respond, thanks.


locoo   Peru. Mar 18 2014 22:24. Posts 4561


  On March 18 2014 20:51 lhr0909 wrote:
Equilab:

Board: 8d6d7s9h
Equity Win Tie
MP2 46.50% 39.93% 6.57% { 22+, A4s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+ } ====> did it with 19% range
SB 53.50% 46.92% 6.57% { KhKs }

pot odds is 27.56 / 10.64 = 2.590225563909774 to 1

math seems to show that you are good to call.



You really need to work on assigning correct ranges to villains. Not even is that range completely wrong by the turn when the moneys goes in, it is also inaccurate preflop. The hand is 3bet pre, so even if villain does raise that 19% range pre he isn't calling 100% of those hands vs a 3bet, and he isn't calling 100% of the hands he does call with on the flop, so his range varies a lot from original raise preflop, to calling a 3bet preflop, to his flop call. And you can't use the same range you originally gave him for every decision.

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitteLast edit: 18/03/2014 22:25

Daut    United States. Mar 18 2014 22:30. Posts 8955

my brain melted from the last few days of hands

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

lhr0909   China. Mar 18 2014 23:03. Posts 423


  On March 18 2014 21:24 locoo wrote:
Show nested quote +



You really need to work on assigning correct ranges to villains. Not even is that range completely wrong by the turn when the moneys goes in, it is also inaccurate preflop. The hand is 3bet pre, so even if villain does raise that 19% range pre he isn't calling 100% of those hands vs a 3bet, and he isn't calling 100% of the hands he does call with on the flop, so his range varies a lot from original raise preflop, to calling a 3bet preflop, to his flop call. And you can't use the same range you originally gave him for every decision.


ahh! gotcha! I didn't adjust based on the hand, only from the HUD stats. Thanks man! I will keep working on it. Just started using this to review some of my hands. Still got a lot to learn.

I like this website because if I keep commenting with wrong crap, eventually people will correct me lol.

no pain no gainLast edit: 18/03/2014 23:09

Trav94   Canada. Mar 18 2014 23:53. Posts 1785

So b/f turn seems best. On flop I lean to b/c? What are my best lines here


Daut    United States. Mar 19 2014 00:36. Posts 8955

........brain almost completely melted

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

GoldRush   United States. Mar 19 2014 00:39. Posts 1025

3b
cb
c/c
c/f in vacuum - c/c vs some , ur hands face up when u check call turn - your riv decision will be much easier.

gl


Trav94   Canada. Mar 19 2014 00:42. Posts 1785


  On March 18 2014 23:36 Daut wrote:
........brain almost completely melted


Fuck off Daut. If only everyone was as good as you. Trying my best here. Post something worthwile. Don't be a dick

 Last edit: 19/03/2014 00:43

Trav94   Canada. Mar 19 2014 00:44. Posts 1785


  On March 18 2014 23:39 GoldRush wrote:
3b
cb
c/c
c/f in vacuum - c/c vs some , ur hands face up when u check call turn - your riv decision will be much easier.

gl



Ty Neilly


Daut    United States. Mar 19 2014 01:01. Posts 8955

you basically asked it in another hand, what worse hands call your bet and what better hands fold?

betting turn is nonsensical. should likely check every hand you have. 3b/cb are fine, c/c or c/f turn depending on opponent

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 19/03/2014 01:02

Trav94   Canada. Mar 19 2014 01:10. Posts 1785

Appreciate it. I guess I can see it in other peoples hands, but not my own.


 

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