2-3 months ago my sister moved in to her new apt
few weeks ago she got robbed for about 8k usd cash that she stupidly had in her house
she went to the police and yadayadayada her maid got fired and that was that -- no proof no nada
a week ago she got robbed again for about ~600 usd
this week she put security cameras in her apartment --- in the weekend she left the apartment and stayed at my parents
today (sunday) she went back and checked the tapes to astonishingly found video recording of the burglar getting inside the house at around 8 in the morning
when i heard this i must say that i got chills all over my body
so we all go over and look to see its a young 25ish looking year old middle-upper class guy wearing an adidas shirt and shorts, big ass watch and decent sports shoes with sunglasses pale white... guy comes from a well off family -- the reason for this is that where i'm from your only pale white if your albino or fairly wealthy lol besides the obvious expensive clothing
also checking the video he seems to have a key that gives him access to the apartment ---enters the apartment and immediately seems to go to my sisters main room to look for money, spends a few minutes there and then comes back to living room and searches a little there before realizing theres a security cam to which he tries to hide for a bit but then pokes his head to see whats up --- comes out again and starts following the cameras cable to find the back camera and after not finding anything else just leaves --- this is all recorded and I have already uploaded to the internetz but will not share here yet since case is not yet resolved
so the person who lived in this apartment before is from my sisters boyfriend family -- she gets in touch with them and one of the girls after checking out the video immediately recognizes the burglar -- she says he is the son of my sisters neighbor who lives one floor above her and that he is a douche
so now we all get to talking -- i immediately talk with a good friend who has the hook ups with lawyers and cops here -- u have to remember this is brazil and stuff here works differently than in 1st world countries
after talking to the lawyer for quite a bit he says theres basically 2 options
1) go to police and get him arrested where he will be able to get bail and u will most likely win the case against him but most likely not see the money and have some headache
2) tomorrow me and the lawyer hit up the mothers apartment , show her the video and threaten her to pay back all that is owed on the same day or else we go to cops --- if they pay the lawyer says we then we go to cops anyways --- apparently this is legal and he thinks is the best way of getting the money back -- if they decline to pay then sell the tapes to the news and take him to the police
We are leaning on option 2
the lawyer after investigating him a bit has found out he has 7 other prior cases of him being sued and apparently nothing happening to him -- this to me tells us this won't be a walk in the park and that he has connections
so overall its a shitty ass situation that will be a hassle for my sister as she will at the very least have to leave her apartment given the famlily of villain lives in the same place!
As for conversations with the cops so far it has all led to "how badly do u want me to beat him up or even eliminate him"
So this morning I go over to my sisters place and arrive to find a group of people over there
my sis , her boyfriend, the building supervisor (forgot the correct name in english, he basically is someone who lives in the building and takes care of all matters regarding the building in exchange for not paying monthly building fee which does not include rent) this supervisor is also a lawyer, me and some others who work for my sis and her business
so lots of talk going on and this lawyer there is sort of a problem for my sister as apparently this burglar has robbed the whole building pretty much and the supervisor has fired doormen amongst others probably wrongly. As soon as our lawyer arrives and this supervisor gets his name you can see he immediately respects him a bit even though our lawyer is like 30 years old and this supervisor-lawyer guy is like > 50. The respect however seems more in the fear kinda of respect as in this lawyers family has some power. Anyways thats my impression of the situation.
The conversations gets pretty interesting and most of the time I am just listening and it becomes clear old supervisor wants to get all of the residents in this while my sis and her lawyer are like "hey she found it , she deserves the gold first and if everyone gets in it right now basically no one is gonna see nada" and just becomes a sort of battle of wits an power to see who wins what.
Anyways conversations goes on and supervisor guy wants to get in the action and go talk with the thief with myself and our lawyer but our lawyer eventually lays down his finger "listen your gonna stay here and me and my bud here (me) are going up .. we'll be back shortly"
my sis lives on the 1st floor, thief lives on 2nd floor opposite side to her
as we go up the elevator i turn on my recorder in my pocket
a bit about me and the lawyer -- im about 1'92 or 6'3 and very heavy dude.. the lawyer is big as well and heavy as well
we get to the hall and we hear immediately the burglar speaking on his cell phone
lawyer knocks on the door and after a few moments the burglar looks through the magic hole and all we hear is "i'm gonna have to hang up now" and then "one moment, friend" and he walks away from the door
once he does this-- i found out later on me and the lawyer thought exact same thing --- which is we are gonna get fuckin shot in this hallway-- my hearts starts pounding a bit faster and since the lawyer is in front of me i slowly start imagining me just tip toeing to stay exactly behind him hehe and imagining at what angle I can't get shot --- oh well but no time to be a wuss now
guy opens the door and its the thief--- lawyer walks in 'we need to talk' the thief is shirtless and removes himself to get his shirt
once he comes back the lawyer is like "look, i'm gonna be straight forward here, i'm a lawyer and we know what you did, we filmed it and we want to settle this now' to which the thief is like 'im sorry for what i did, i have a 8 month pregnant wife in the back so please lets settle this amicably' lawyer is like 'thats fine thats what we want as well'
we keep on chatting a bit and decide he has two hours to call us back with the money in hand or some immediate plan to get the money he stole from my sister or else we start going to police/media and he says ok
my thoughts throughout this were basically that lots of my friends were like 'man u have to beat the shit out of this guy and feel angry and whatnot' i just personally felt pity for him as he seems relatively normal person who just fucked his family up hard
we went back to my sis place -- i put the audio in the internetz once again and waiting the 2 hours out and no reply from him
so the lawyer and i left --- the final plan now was that by coincidence a female police chief lives in my sisters building and she is actively involved in finding the burglar and will arrive in like 4 hours from sao paulo--- so we decide to wait on her to come and meet up again to go through with the arresting part of the plan unless some other contact is made from our burglar
lawyer gives me a ride home and the chat home was kinda messed up.. i don't know this guy much but have met him once or twice before but know his reputation and that he is very good friends with one of my best friends--ill leave that chat to another time
will update later when we have more stuff
I ended up passing out in the afternoon, when I woke up my wife had gone out and babysitter would be leaving shortly which means I had to stay with my baby and could not go visit my sis to see the updates
as far i know police chief + lawyer+ sis all met up
lawyer called burglar and burglar is agreeing to payup money apparently and asked that my sister write him a receipt of receiving back the stolen money
what is hilarious as well is that we said he owed like ~10k dollars but then he is like no the total was like ~9.2k dollars and my sis is like 'oh snap he is probably right cause i remember spending like x amount of the money for some bills or something' . The lawyer quickly agrees to write this receipt as it has really no effect. They all agreed for tomorrow morning for this money to be given and afterwards she would go to the police station with the police chief...
some extras that i recall are
Lawyer is not charging anything which is extremely generous. He comes from a very rich family and has just married into an even richer family but still very nice of him. He doesn't even know my sister till today.
Everyone here when dealing with important figures tend to call them 'doctor' as a respectful thing, so the lawyer was like 'doctor' to the police chief and she after finding out his name is like 'hey i know who you and your family are please call me by first name' which i found amusing.
Next steps of interrogation will be coming up as the video of him breaking entry he seems to have the key to the apartment -- how did he get the key-- possible doormen involvement in this as well... also when talking to him personally the guy seems fairly normal --> what the hell was his motivation to do this stuff? Clepto or necessity or what? Cause he comes from a middle-upper class family which is just bizarre.
The whole process is going really slow in my eyes.
Last edit: 28/11/2011 17:32
RiKD   United States. Nov 27 2011 22:15. Posts 7755
pretty crazy. i was gonna ask how the mob works in brazil but i guess the cops will take care of that if you want.
can you find out if the parents are delusional and think their son is a special snowflake or if they realize he's a fuck up loser and care about their dignity?
it sounds like their parents are probably well connected though and have a lot of money. i don't see this working out well unless they are afraid of getting embarrassed or sick of throwing money at their fuck up son's problems.
hope everything works out well. rooting for your sister to get her money back and the punk to get his ass beat by the cops or the mob with promises of worse if it happens again.
tapatapaz   Brasil. Nov 27 2011 22:24. Posts 1279
q merda pqp.. i dont know if i could add anything valuable to this but weirdly enough it came to me it would be cool to somehow take everything of value out of the apartment, wait for him to show up and somehow lock him in there forcing him to ask for help
And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal
player999   Brasil. Nov 27 2011 23:26. Posts 7978
threaten to kill him if he doesnt give it all back
and if he doesnt hire someone for that
Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol
Mariuslol   Norway. Nov 28 2011 05:14. Posts 4742
On a more serious note, sounds like quite the predicament. On the good side, seems like you got hold of a pretty good lawyer xD
julep   Australia. Nov 28 2011 05:38. Posts 1274
wow...i would love to see the tape
CamilaPunt   Brasil. Nov 28 2011 05:54. Posts 2420
ill definitely post video once things are more clear
shortly we are going to his moms apartment and doing the threat
positive sides for us
1) yes he seems like a thug but we have a great bonus here of having the video and its very embarrassing for the family
2) this lawyer is the bomb -- he comes from a family of lawyers back in the day when lawyers were gun slingers lol and the stories I have heard of his family are quite epic
Eluflop   Estonia. Nov 28 2011 06:09. Posts 3835
yeah , i think you guys have to move asap if you probably want to see the money.
Violence and pain is always a helping facktor in this rather tricky spot =). gl man !
D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Nov 28 2011 08:33. Posts 688
tell the parents of the giant douche that unless they return the money you will show the tape to each neighbor and tell them that not only is the son a burglar but also the parents are douchebags for not giving back the money. Also add that you will make flyers and put them on every tree with a picture of their son and a screenshot of the burglar and a small comment that he is a burglar.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On November 27 2011 21:15 RiKD wrote:
pretty crazy. i was gonna ask how the mob works in brazil but i guess the cops will take care of that if you want.
the biggest mob here is our own government
watch "elite squad 1" and "elite squad 2" and you will understand
SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 28 2011 11:33. Posts 6298
SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 28 2011 11:34. Posts 6298
GL to you and your sister though! Hope you get your money back.
RiKD   United States. Nov 28 2011 12:18. Posts 7755
yeah, was gonna add that i hope the lawyer gets his cut. seems badass and competent instead of seedy, greedy bloodsucking vampire.
care to share any stories? a bunch of maverick lawyers takin care of business in brazil would be an amazing show.
CamilaPunt   Brasil. Nov 28 2011 14:12. Posts 2420
just updated original post
k4ir0s   Canada. Nov 28 2011 16:13. Posts 3473
I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly
RiKD   United States. Nov 28 2011 16:22. Posts 7755
On November 28 2011 15:13 k4ir0s wrote:
CamilaPunt   Brasil. Nov 28 2011 17:32. Posts 2420
RiKD   United States. Nov 28 2011 19:59. Posts 7755
i bet his wife is super attractive and great in bed (or at least super attractive for him) and he can't keep up with his burn rate unless he subsidizes with crime. his business (or drug dealing or trust fund or credit) not doing as well or his parents no longer subsidizing him would be my guess.
HBO should make a show about this lawyer. what a hero.