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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 15:01. Posts 15163 | | |
FU STARS
Yeah, fudge you mofos. The PS Sale gave me a strong reason to multitable again.
I made my SN requirement of 7500 VPP in 14 days while playing 1 hr during weekdays and full weekends.
But who am I kidding, I can't keep multitabling when I have a full-time job... there simply never is the energy to sustain it. Needless to say, I have a break even month and I managed to wipe out all my 5BB/100 winnings from 4 tabling and 1BB/100 when 9+ tabling during 3 hypertilt sessions, -6 to8 BI each.
I have FPPs I need to buy what I want and I already have SN threshold for this month... I ban myself from playing anything else than 4 tables for the rest of the month, and then I can only multitable when my SN is in trouble. And what if I feel bored? I will simply move up up to 200NL, or not play at all.
I will make 7BI at NL50, then take shots at NL100 and NL200 if it goes well. I can push it real hard as long as I keep returning to NL50 at $5k.
POKER PRO
I bought Tommy Angelo's book, but I have to say its less enjoyable than Ace on the river, and Tommy's series on DC, because it lacks continuity and is just a bunch of advice, without the awesome music.
It has some epic passages though, lets see one of them:
[...]When a professional poker player runs out of money, it's not a shame. It's just part of the game.
The shame is if you get calling to spread your wings and fly, and you approach the cliff, but then you back away, and from then on you wonder what it would be like to soar the wind, even for a little while, even if all you did was flail around aimlessly and crash.
Think of all the people who have set their sights on being a professional football player, or sculptor, or any other challenging career that comes wrapped in pain. Think of how many of them have 'failed' or 'came up short' or 'didn't make it'. Were those people wrong to be blinded by their passion? Were they wrong to chase a dream? Is it better to have jumped and crashed than to never have jumped at all?
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Its not possible for you to find out if you 'have what it takes' to go jobless and make living out of poker, except by quitting your job. You've been a poker pro for a while now, and you're being tested like never before. You're having the worst losing streak of your life by far. You bankroll is at all-time low. You're stressed most of the time and depressed the rest. Your closest relationships are either not as close as you want them, or too close. Your health is, well, its's all over the place, because you are.
But you love it anyway, goddamn you really do! You'd do it all again, even though now everything is totally fucked. You've had so many, many soaring times these last few years, just free, on the breeze. Waking up with not much, but plenty. Playing the game like the greatest player you have ever been. Stunning not just them but even yourself. New discoveries. New people. New places. New new new. What's next ? Who knows. Who cares. Who knew you could be so hungry and so happy at the same time?
Those thoughts fade, replaced by what's real. You're not soaring right now, You're spiralling.
Looking into the future, do you think you can predict how you will feel when shits hits the muck? What you'll do? Do you think you can predict what the world will look like to you then, as you look at it from behind a paycheck now? Do you really think you know which cards are coming?
Here's a catch 22 that has caught many. You can't play enough hours to get good enough at poker to be a pro unless you quit your job. And you can't afford to quit your job until you are not good enough to be a pro.
If only that dang job wasn't in the way, you'd have the freedom to really work on your game by playing whenever you want to and quitting whenever you want to and just bearing down on it, week after week, month after month. But if you had hat kind of freedom, you'd really be a pro.
To become a good enough at playing poker to make a living playing poker requires a tremendous amount of poker playing, poker thinking, poker talking, listening, reading, and writing. There isn't quite enough time in a normal life to hold down a normal job, maintain normal relationships, and be a poker monster.
Cliffnotes for lazy Eastern Europeans
- You can't go pro unless your quit your job.
- Is it better to fly and crash or not to fly at all?
- Although poker is cruel and a whore at times, only few that actually went for it 100% wish they'd never tried to give it their best
Personal notes to the above
Being a poker pro is awesome. Its so awesome its hard to grasp for me. I never really had the knowledge and didn't know why am I doing things until about 2 months ago. I never had time to play by then - only in the afternoons and on the weekends.
The problem with that is that you have a very limited time to play poker. So you play, you don't quit and you don't study, and whats maybe even more important - you don't think about poker when you try to be the best/do your maximum at your job.
Then the 14 days break came during the Christmas. Boy that was awesome... All I did was think about poker, live poker and breathe poker.
I could quit whenever I wanted, do something else BECAUSE OF POKER - Its very important that you relax properly and I just took my GF to a cinema or for a dinner for that reason, or I simply went to gym after reading an article and having it on my blackberry and reviewed it on a treadmill.
I watched 3-4 videos per day and I 4 tabled only, and I played when I felt like it. Huge fish keeps rebuying? Cool, I don't go to sleep tonight. I don't feel 100% ok? Sweet, lets do something fun that will make me feel better, I have all the time I need for playing.
I would just do whatever and I always got these random cravings for the game. I felt fresh and full of energy, I put in an hour here, an hour there, and it always came to 6+ on average per day.
I am now very strongly decided - I will finish my placement, I will try to get by by playing part-time during my last year of university starting September, and then, if I still feel my passion for the game, nothing will stop me from giving it 100% no matter what.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 15:14. Posts 6374 | | |
i would love to read this but its too long
notes? |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 15:14. Posts 6374 | | |
oh i see the notes now :D 5* |
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longple  Sweden. Jan 18 2010 15:20. Posts 4472 | | |
return to 50nl at 5k?
lol
play 100nl until u learn to beat it, and if u hit a downer move down to 50nl at 2k or 1.5k? |
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Is ace on the river good? I'm thinking of buying some book with fpps but dont know which one. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 15:30. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On January 18 2010 14:20 longple wrote:
return to 50nl at 5k?
lol
play 100nl until u learn to beat it, and if u hit a downer move down to 50nl at 2k or 1.5k? |
I have a job, and I spew massively ever since I started it.
I had to regrind from $400 twice. Never more.
I made half my BR during the Christmas break at NL100 where I spewed about 1 BI for no reason total as opposed to 20+ this month already, and the other half from rakeback and a freeroll.
$5k +rakeback assures me I have $10k at the start of September, which will be sufficient BR to allow me to play part time and pay my way through university, no matter how much I fuck up.
I have to face the thruth, right now I am a break even player at NL50 with large threat of 8BI+ tilt sessions, going under the $5k minimum that I need would make me feel under pressure, uncomfortable, and therefore.. more likely to tilt.
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4Kingell United Kingdom. Jan 18 2010 15:44. Posts 1453 | | |
| | On January 18 2010 14:30 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2010 14:20 longple wrote:
return to 50nl at 5k?
lol
play 100nl until u learn to beat it, and if u hit a downer move down to 50nl at 2k or 1.5k? |
I have a job, and I spew massively ever since I started it.
I had to regrind from $400 twice. Never more.
I made half my BR during the Christmas break at NL100 where I spewed about 1 BI for no reason total as opposed to 20+ this month already, and the other half from rakeback and a freeroll.
$5k +rakeback assures me I have $10k at the start of September, which will be sufficient BR to allow me to play part time and pay my way through university, no matter how much I fuck up.
I have to face the thruth, right now I am a break even player at NL50 with large threat of 8BI+ tilt sessions, going under the $5k minimum that I need would make me feel under pressure, uncomfortable, and therefore.. more likely to tilt.
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I understand this actually. I trod water with 25nl for so long - trying stuff and learning and now I moved up to 50nl and don't want to go back down (just up) but whenever I have a bad session I play 25nl for a bit and it seems much easier to make good decisions because a buyin or 2 loss due to variance has less of an impact on my roll. 50nl is no tougher than 25nl (imo a little easier as there are some serious donators) but if you are managing a roll and not 'comfortably rolled' (that will be different for each person) a push/fold decision that is marginal becomes more difficult.
GL |
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Mariuslol Norway. Jan 18 2010 16:22. Posts 4742 | | |
I think 100nl and 200nl is easier than 20nl and 50nl lol, but haven't had that much try at those stakes, but whenever I've been stakes, I feel it's much easier. Perhaps it's the variance I get at the microstakes, I heard someplace that you need to win around 4,3BB/100 to beat the rake. And now I play on a euro site, so 20nl, the fish buy in for 4e, and they try shove with a pair or an A pre, or try hit top pair and shove and the regulars are nitty, so I feel there's not that easy to get their few euro's before the rake wins or variance. But at higher stakes it is.
Maybe I'm thinking wrong about it, just something I've felt lately, annoying most of my winnings are from rakeback, shouldn't be that way lol
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[sK] United States. Jan 18 2010 16:33. Posts 174 | | |
u should look at Leatherass's book; "treating poker like a business." just got it the other day and couldn't put it down. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 16:34. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On January 18 2010 15:22 Mariuslol wrote:
I think 100nl and 200nl is easier than 20nl and 50nl lol, but haven't had that much try at those stakes, but whenever I've been stakes, I feel it's much easier. Perhaps it's the variance I get at the microstakes, I heard someplace that you need to win around 4,3BB/100 to beat the rake. And now I play on a euro site, so 20nl, the fish buy in for 4e, and they try shove with a pair or an A pre, or try hit top pair and shove and the regulars are nitty, so I feel there's not that easy to get their few euro's before the rake wins or variance. But at higher stakes it is.
Maybe I'm thinking wrong about it, just something I've felt lately, annoying most of my winnings are from rakeback, shouldn't be that way lol
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I agree 100%. NL100 is much easier than NL50 or NL25 for me, for the sole reason that there is way WAY more solid/nitty players and the regs are passive and much less spewy.
This only means that when I find a fish with my excellent table selecting, I will be playing In position, in a heads up pot against it almost whenever I like.
That only means that my spews are super -EV, as they keep me from playing there |
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| | On January 18 2010 14:26 dreamtech wrote:
Is ace on the river good? I'm thinking of buying some book with fpps but dont know which one. |
Tommy Angelo rocks.
Ace on the River is a good book. It´s not about strategy tho. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jan 18 2010 18:10. Posts 15163 | | |
Ace on the river for the stories, Tommy Angelo's book for the mindset/advice |
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EscapingR Netherlands. Jan 18 2010 18:32. Posts 2353 | | |
nice topic, read it all, im thinking of buying this tommy book  |
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Mariuslol Norway. Jan 19 2010 02:53. Posts 4742 | | |
If you're buying books, test out The Poker Mindset, Let there be ranges as well. |
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| | On January 18 2010 14:44 4Kingell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2010 14:30 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
| | On January 18 2010 14:20 longple wrote:
return to 50nl at 5k?
lol
play 100nl until u learn to beat it, and if u hit a downer move down to 50nl at 2k or 1.5k? |
I have a job, and I spew massively ever since I started it.
I had to regrind from $400 twice. Never more.
I made half my BR during the Christmas break at NL100 where I spewed about 1 BI for no reason total as opposed to 20+ this month already, and the other half from rakeback and a freeroll.
$5k +rakeback assures me I have $10k at the start of September, which will be sufficient BR to allow me to play part time and pay my way through university, no matter how much I fuck up.
I have to face the thruth, right now I am a break even player at NL50 with large threat of 8BI+ tilt sessions, going under the $5k minimum that I need would make me feel under pressure, uncomfortable, and therefore.. more likely to tilt.
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I understand this actually. I trod water with 25nl for so long - trying stuff and learning and now I moved up to 50nl and don't want to go back down (just up) but whenever I have a bad session I play 25nl for a bit and it seems much easier to make good decisions because a buyin or 2 loss due to variance has less of an impact on my roll. 50nl is no tougher than 25nl (imo a little easier as there are some serious donators) but if you are managing a roll and not 'comfortably rolled' (that will be different for each person) a push/fold decision that is marginal becomes more difficult.
GL |
This sounds like me starting out, i had 5k at 50NL, and would have sessions where i drop 10 buy ins, (some due to tilt)
I was scared to move up mostly because of my tilt, losing 3-4 days worth of profit for no logical reason is not good ;( |
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