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iamalex United States. Nov 11 2009 12:31. Posts 1556

Now that I am playing poker again, Ive found all my all poker friends at much different stakes. I'm looking for some people who want to send hands to eachother and talk strategy.

I'm also going to start learning PLO. Seems like a really fun and great game that many of my NLHE will transfer over to. I'm going to start low, 25PLO, until I get better. I already know a lot about the starting hands and how 9987 is worse than 9877 for example.

Anyway, hit me up in the comments or in a PM if you play NL50-100 or PLO. I mostly use AIM but I can also get on MSN if that is more convienient for anyone.

Good Luck.

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Last edit: 11/11/2009 12:55

joLin United States. Nov 11 2009 12:55. Posts 3818

how is 9987 worse than 9877?

just curious cuz i dont play any plo.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL

lachlan Australia. Nov 11 2009 13:21. Posts 6991

yeah can you explain that please

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Sicks Macks United States. Nov 11 2009 13:25. Posts 3929

On November 11 2009 11:55 joLin wrote:
how is 9987 worse than 9877?

just curious cuz i dont play any plo.

Mr. Will Throwit

iamalex United States. Nov 11 2009 13:26. Posts 1556

When you flop a set w/ 9987 you are less likely to have the nut straight draw compared to 9877 and you also have blockers to lower sets, instead of blockers to higher sets.

requiem United States. Nov 11 2009 13:30. Posts 148

hey i'm a 100NLHE player just recently started plo too. i'm playing 50 plo right now. aim is synikall

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DooMeR United States. Nov 11 2009 13:39. Posts 8562

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DooMeR United States. Nov 11 2009 13:50. Posts 8562

btw alex from what ive heard that is backwards and 9987 is better but i dunno i can definitely be wrong cuz i suck at plo t.t

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.

iamalex United States. Nov 11 2009 13:57. Posts 1556

I'm very certain 9877 > 9987. 9987 wins hu against 9877 but for the reasons I said earlier 9877 flops much better and is much more playable post-flop.

nolan Ireland. Nov 11 2009 14:09. Posts 6205

you ever want to throw a HH by me hit me up.

i'm a back to beating 2/4 plo at 1ptbb after breaking even 300k hands so im an expert.

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Ygkjh Hatchery. Nov 11 2009 15:24. Posts 240

9987 > 9877 according to ProPokerTools hand percentile calculator, but I have no idea how accurate the tool is.

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/handPercentile.jsp

"When you flop a set w/ 9987 you are less likely to have the nut straight draw compared to 9877"
This is only true if we're comparing 9987 and 7655, right?

Idk. actually I'm really tired and don't feel like thinking at all.

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Silver_nz New Zealand. Nov 11 2009 15:37. Posts 5647

good read in your prev post, I can relate

Bullshit Canada. Nov 11 2009 16:40. Posts 738

maybe we can discuss some plo strategy I just randomly click buttons for the time being pm me your msn or aim

milkman United States. Nov 11 2009 18:49. Posts 5719

hey man, u already got all my info, id like to go over any hands, on aim or on vent, and im VERY interested in getting into PLO, maybe we could set some goals for eachother at PL25 or something

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.

milkman United States. Nov 11 2009 18:52. Posts 5719

On November 11 2009 13:09 nolan wrote:
you ever want to throw a HH by me hit me up.

i'm a back to beating 2/4 plo at 1ptbb after breaking even 300k hands so im an expert.

for this reason, plo is scary as hell to me lol..

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.

iamalex United States. Nov 11 2009 20:59. Posts 1556

On November 11 2009 14:24 Ygkjh wrote:
9987 > 9877 according to ProPokerTools hand percentile calculator, but I have no idea how accurate the tool is.

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/handPercentile.jsp

"When you flop a set w/ 9987 you are less likely to have the nut straight draw compared to 9877"
This is only true if we're comparing 9987 and 7655, right?

Idk. actually I'm really tired and don't feel like thinking at all.

ProPokerTools is only considering all in equity. It isn't considering other important factors, like playability.

w/ 9877 a flop of

76x gives you a (sometimes top) set + nut OESD
75x gives you a (sometimes top) set + gutshot to the nuts
7Tx gives you a set + nut OESD
7Jx gives you a set + nut gutshot

All straight draws to the nuts 2 OESDs and 2 gutshots.

w/ 9987

95x gives you a (sometimes top) set + gutshot to the nuts
96x gives you a (sometimes top) set + OSED to the nuts
9Tx gives you a set + OESD 1 to nuts 1 to 2nd nuts.
9Jx gives you a set + gutshot to the nuts

2 gutshots to the nuts 1 1/2 OESD to the nuts and 1/2 OESD to the 2nd nuts.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

SlowHabit United States. Nov 12 2009 22:58. Posts 70

9877 makes a good argument that it is better than 9987. But it's important to note that all hands with the same structure aren't the same in ranking.

For example, KKQJ is way superior than KQJJ. Same thing with QQJT being more superior than QJTT. Main reason is KKxx/QQxx can be good at showdowns a good amount.