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PplusAD Germany. Oct 31 2007 15:59. Posts 7182

SO I almost made this month back into green after
- 450 $ ( 18 buy ins NL25) start at the beginnig.
played kinda tight though
normally i am more like 24/19 but everyone at my tables was like 40/22
and so i tightend up a bit.

I think its pretty interesting how someones point of view concerning Poker changes with experience

Well first u start with Poker as a total newb and think its all skill ( Like Starcraft, Chess , or basketball)
then u have your first little downswings and start to think Poker is all luck ...

you either quit there or go on playing simply by seeing others making insane money out of it. ( LPers mostly ^^)

then u make all the money you lost back and add some more
-> now you think poker is skill + luck but skill is far more important and you will make money no matter how bad you run just by outplaying opponents

Then u hit your first really big downswing that just seems to not end and you start to think :

Blah
luck is far more important in Poker than skill.
you cant win , no matter how skilled you are when u get unlucky. the ammount of skill involved is marginal compared to the amount of luck involved

After the months pass you realize that its probably a combination of both in a strange kind of relationship.

the longer you play and the better u get u realize there is so much skill involved in Poker , yet luck factor is easily able to destroy all your skill no matter how big your edge is.

Its somehow an odd concept that a player 20 times better than another player could lose to him a good amount of hands. So if he could lose , then how can it be possible that he is 20x times better ?
well looking at the skill involved in Poker it clearly is possible that someone reaches about 20 times the skill of another player.

Dont know if you get what i am trying to say.
It seems kinda impossible to the human mind that a game in which luck is such a big part involves so much skill ( yet it does)
And it also seems kinda impossible that a game with so much skill involved can be completely destroyed by luck over a decent sample size ( yet thats exaclty what happens every now and then )

THis is not a complain or anything this is just what i have been thinking lately.
Poker is strange

Finally i have a Hand for lachlan_fearn about what i meant with position abuse.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/hand/hand.php?hand=306238

And the nice comment by the person i abused.
with some unimportant trash talk to tilt him a bit ^^

speedhart: stupid pair raiser
PplusAD: lol what is stupid in 3 betting PP blind vs blind ?
PplusAD: PP = better then AK
PplusAD: and u would 3 bet AK ? right
speedhart: ur great fish
speedhart: lol

some hands later almost same scenario
and he again has to fold

speedhart: lucker
speedhart: only pairs to raise

well he probably has a note on me now
" big fish "

GL ALL

And special thanks to all the LP guys
who motivate the lowtakes grinders to keep going after a downswing !

love u

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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)

Last edit: 31/10/2007 16:20