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PplusAD Germany. Oct 06 2007 17:38. Posts 7182

Okay at the beginnig of the month i had about 750$ bankroll
now i am sitting there having 278$ left ....

okay on the first note one might think it is impossible to lose 18 buy ins on NL25 sh in just one week without being a total fish.
I mean its not that i lose money ! Its that i get utterly destroyed having always -4 or -5 buy ins sessions for the last days.

And i would agree to this statement.
However i analized my game alot the past few days and i cant find any major leaks that would jsutify such an aguly crush on microstakes.
I also won 250$ on NL25 over 26K hands the last month .. which i assumed to be at least a hint that i am not doing wrong every single play.

Preflop : I play pretty tight like 17/14
I play the good hands , i know about position , i know about implied odds for pockets, i know how to fold AQ to a 3bet oop ... i know about which hands are good in 3way pots (SC) and which are good heads up.

My preflop game is just pretty standart decent ABC poker

Flop game :
When i was preflop agressor i do oop
Continuation bets on good dry floops.
fe. A55 AT2 QQ6 and so on

And i dont do a continuation bet oop on ugly flops like 8TJ suited.

however i do continuation bets of 2/3 pot size in Position after everyone checked to me.

think that part is also just pretty standart ABC Poker

Evaluating and playing Hands on flop and turn
I am pretty sure i know at least the basics of ABC postflop play.

I am rather tight postflop in general
And know about : protection [giving draws wrong odds ], pot building[valumaximisation by making the pot big enough to get money in on river] , odds, implied odds, outs, discounted outs ... and i know what different betsizes usually mean.

I also pay attention to PAHUD stats of my opponents and i
wont call with AQ on a QT4 when a 12/6/2 pla<x>yer c/r me on the flop after he Limp called from early position to my LPraise.
I consider being behind here vs TT 44 QT the majority of the time and having no outs due to my A completing a KJ straight i am able to fold this here.

I can also read boards and i see flush draws , straight draws and i know to keep the pot small when they arrive on the river. I know the difference between a 3/4 way pot and a HU Pot.

I think my postflop play is pretty decent ABC most of the time.

playing draws
I am pretty sure i know the basics of ABC draw playing.
- I raise my draws when i see fold equity
- I call my FD and OESD when the odds + implied odds give me about 1:5
i see implied odds as getting 1/2 potsize bet on the next street if my draw hits.

I dondt play risky with gutshots or medium draws on a dangerous board
f.e low flop FD on a paired Turn is often a fold for me

I play my very big draws very agressive
OESD + FD , 2 overcards + FD + Gutshot and such stuff
I raise and reraise with them.

I am not 100% sure but i think thats standart ABC poker.

I also know about 2 barrel bluffs that i use on rare ocassions after my opponent showed weakness.

yeha i could go on a little but i think nobody will read this all.

so where do i lose the money
well most of my typical losses are similar to the following situations.

1.)
I run with KK, QQ , JJ into a coldcalled preflop overpair on an undercard flop and get it all in on teh flop after 3 bet action.

usuall flop action .
I bet , villian raises , i 3 bet -> villan all in -> i call.

well i have the opinion that it is hard to get away from this situations cause of the preflop coldcall.
any thoughts ?

2.)
ANother source of me losing money is hitting a good hand on a draw heavy board.

exp.

I have QJs on a JT4 suited board Flop Villian bets small i call.( i dondt have flush draw)
i hit my OESD on the turn and after a villian check i bet -> get a reraise from villian and call. He hits his flush on the river bets out big and i call.

Well i call due to the pot allready being big and assuming villian wont checkraise with a FD on turn when OESD completed ? thoughts ?

3.)
Flush vs higher flush
I think that is just variance but happend too often in the past week
I lose KQs OJs flush to A2 ,K4 flushes like almost always the last 6K hands ....

4.) Hitting 2 pair on the flop
Whenever i hit a medium 2 pair on a flop i raise big for protection + value ( i assume i have the best hand with a flopped 2 pair ?). opponents either fold or when they call the hit their draw or better 2 pair.

okay enough for today.

I will go back to NL10 with my remaining 278$ and change from Party to Ipoker.
i want to play 6max NL10 which isnt offered on Party.

besides that Ipoker has like 20% rakeback at microstakes in form of monthly cashbonus.

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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)

Last edit: 06/10/2007 17:46

T8Suited Canada. Oct 06 2007 18:13. Posts 1276

Post some hands

Addressing your problems:

1) The plays with 1-pair hands strongly depend on opponent. Reads are so important. Somebody go broke with TPnk so value bet to death against them. On the other hands non fish won't call down 3 barrels without being about to beat overpairs.

If your overpair is raised by non-fish just call down. Sometimes you give their draws free cards on the turn. But that's the price you pay for being OOP. There are more important things than "make them pay to draw". It's more important to PROTECT YOUR STACK.

2) With 1 pair I might raise flop but I almost never raise turn. Consider check-behind turn with some good TP+SD/FD hands.

3) No point worrying about this, coz same thing would have happened (opp. pays you off) if you have each other's hand

4) Again, position is so important. 2-pairs are so situational.

Other random ideas
1) Don't raise JJ in EP or in the blinds.
2) Don't raise AQo from the blinds/EP. I would much rather raise small PP/SC in EP instead.
3) Play your draws, even monster draws for implied odds instead. It's difficult to fold out TP at this level
4) Don't c-bet 3-handed or more

Feel free to agree or disagree

lachlan Australia. Oct 06 2007 18:31. Posts 6991

cool, i like this blog. i have lost 10 buyins at NL10 over the past three days, i feel like the world has been against me, running KK vs AA five times. but reading this has given me confidence back

full ring

Silver_nz New Zealand. Oct 07 2007 07:19. Posts 5647

nice read, gets me thinking about new places to look for leaks

WilsWils Canada. Oct 16 2007 13:17. Posts 285

look into isolating preflop more. that was one of my leaks, i let too many people in too cheap with my premiums.

Throw conventional theory 3xbb 4xbb raising out the window with microstakes, i've been raising much bigger when i get a hand and i've always gotten a caller (over 6-7k hands).

I.e im 6 tabling 25nl right now rebuilding and i get KK / AA in early position, i'll pop it up to 1$. However, in later positions, id raise to 1.50 or even 2$ and get 1-2 callers, from there it's far eaiser to play than raising to 75 cents or 1 dollar from all positions and gett 3+ callers.

^^

dont know if id recommend this at higher stakes because people will catch on, but for 25nl FR it's been working well for me , of course there are inevitable suckouts when they setmine your over pair, but thats the way it goes.