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NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 01 2016 14:08. Posts 4943
Alright so, Q2 sucked for a variety of reasons, most of which I'll try not to deflect from anything more than poor decision making. For starters I completely messed up my sleep schedule thanks to that damn blizzard game Overwatch. There is a direct correlation from May 26th (official release date of game) and my sudden downswing/breakeven stretch lol. I am so completely addicted to this game I can easily play 10 hours straight and found myself going to sleep and waking up at all sorts of crazy hours. This was disastrous for poker as I ended up missing out on lots of good action by playing at odd hours of the day/night. There were times were I was just exhausted at 7pm on a Saturday and could not stay up, completely forfeiting one of the most profitable days.

The next huge mistake I made was taking a shot at 5/10. My bankroll was 17k, a mere 3 buyins away from 5/10 anyway so I figure might as well take a 5 buyin shot now. I mean, if I had 20k and moved up to 5/10 it's not like I'd drop back down if I hit 17k so whats the difference? Well, psychologically speaking there's tons. Playing with 20 buyins vs feeling like you only have 5 buyins while shot taking really throws you off your game. On top of that, both times I sat everyone was straddling which basically meant I was playing 10/25. To further compound the issue, usually within an hour someone would say "hey why dont we just bump it to 10/25 so we can play time rake?" to which everyone agreed. So my dumb ass really ended up taking a 2 buyin shot at 10/25 which is just disgraceful. Part of it was pride, I didnt want to sheepishly walk away from the table and look poor. The other was greed. I mean there's plenty of times you sit down and just run it up from your initial buyin, so maybe I can run good here too which would be quite a boost to the bankroll. 2 buyins at 10/25 vs 5 buyins at 5/10, whats the difference right? Fuck it....... big mistake. I wont ever be doing that again.

I'm not sure I quite got over that hit. Ever since then it feels like I'm playing kinda frustrated. I cant quite tell if it's just from running bad or a combination of things. I experimented with different bet sizings but still feel most comfortable betting half pot under most circumstances. Because stack sizes vary so heavily in multiway pots at low stakes games I find it hard to know exactly who and what range of hands im targeting. I'll iso something like 9Ts OTB and get 5 callers. Flop will be 67Q and someone will donkbet from UTG for like 1/4 pot and MP will call. I feel inclined to raise here because fuck that donkbet and fuck that sizing. I just dont know what my success rate is here.

Anyway I'm going to adjust my range and limping frequency. Right now my range was basically

EP : 22+/JTs+/QJo+/A9s+

MP: 22+/78s+/JTo+/A9o+/A6s+

LP: 22+/56s+/JTo+/A6o+/A2s+

BTN: 22+/54s+/JTo+/Ax+

SB: Play button range

and I'd almost always come in for a raise if I was opening here, plus the occasional 3bet vs the reg's if I was squeezing LP and it was obvious they were targeting a deep fish on their right.

I've adjusted this range to be more precise in regards to when I'll limp vs when I'll raise to include the following:
The R/L tags indicate raising/limping.

EP-R: 88+/AQs+
EP-L: 22-77/KTs+/AJo+/ATs+

MP-R: 88+/AJo+/ATs+
MP-L: 22+/54s+/QJs+/KTs+

LP-R: 55+/KTs+/AJo+/ATs+
LP-L: 22+/52s+/Q9s+/KQo+/ATo+

BTN-R: 55+/KTs+/AJo+/ATs+
BTN-L: 54o+/A2s+/QJo+/Q8s+/K9s+

What I've done here is included a much wider limping range and much tighter EP range just to be more exploitable since so many pots go unraised preflop anyway. If you notice from my previous range hands like Q8s weren't even a part of it. I would just auto-fold that from any position no matter what. I think adding in these new hands combined with small bet sizing may enable these hands to be played easier since I cant valuetown myself too terribly on any runout.



TLDR: Fucked up taking a shot, fucked up not taking schedule seriously playing video games instead, probably got on a little life tilt from poor results and played sub-optimally overall. RESULTS!!

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NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 01 2016 18:37. Posts 4943

I will say the one thing that has made me feel a little better about all of this is that fellow crusher who is most likely the best player in the entire room told me he took a trip to Tampa a few weeks ago and lost 7k at 2/5. He said it was nothing he did wrong, just one terrible flop after another. Every draw missed, every draw hit for opponent, nothing could connect, just annoying week overall.

bye nowLast edit: 01/08/2016 18:37

PolarFox   United States. Aug 01 2016 21:03. Posts 103

nice to see you still going


JohnnyBologna   United States. Aug 01 2016 23:02. Posts 1401

What poker room are you playing???

Just do whats right 

DooMeR   United States. Aug 02 2016 01:21. Posts 8544

O.o I'm pretty monkish utg but I don't open qjo or even or kjo. I feel lIke those hands play bad especially multiway but even hu they don't flop a lot of bluffing equity imo

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

DooMeR   United States. Aug 02 2016 01:30. Posts 8544

Fwiw I prefer to open 67 and even 79s before kjo. Tho I could see myself opening it if it was a tight table with big fish in blinds. Then it would probably be manditory open imo

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 02 2016 10:34. Posts 4943


  On August 01 2016 22:02 JohnnyBologna wrote:
What poker room are you playing???

best bet in jacksonville FL

bye now 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 02 2016 17:32. Posts 10468


  On August 02 2016 00:21 DooMeR wrote:
O.o I'm pretty monkish utg but I don't open qjo or even or kjo. I feel lIke those hands play bad especially multiway but even hu they don't flop a lot of bluffing equity imo



This,

Also, overlimping is one thing and fine with many hands but it looks like you are adding a giant openlimping range? Even from CO and button. This is a mistake imo.

Ax isnt linear, A2-5 is better than A7,A8. And id rather open any suited ace over A8/A9


traxamillion   United States. Aug 02 2016 17:41. Posts 10468

Splitting ur range like that also has an intrinsic cost. Especially if you play those ranges as described with with a very high frequency. You will be quite exploitable vs anyone halfway decent as your limping range will be quite weak. You need to have more of a mixed strategy with this approach where you also limp a decent amount of your "raise range" and vice versa.

And even then i think it is too much limping especially with a bottom heavy rake


PoorUser    United States. Aug 02 2016 18:20. Posts 7471

are those limps open limps or limping behind a limper? either way it seems like you are limping some hands that are clear opens but if its open limping you are limping way too good of hands

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NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 02 2016 20:01. Posts 4943


  On August 02 2016 17:20 PoorUser wrote:
are those limps open limps or limping behind a limper? either way it seems like you are limping some hands that are clear opens but if its open limping you are limping way too good of hands

Thats kinda how I feel honestly, I do so much better when I open. But in the interest of reducing variance the idea is to open limp and limp behind.

bye now 

DooMeR   United States. Aug 02 2016 21:25. Posts 8544

I'd disagree that its lowering variance. Generally speaking the higher edge in poker the lower the standard deviation will be. Also when we have a limping range and the pot does get opened. it gets opened for more than we would have done it ourselves. So depending what our limping rnage is doing its either making us fold forfeiting our equity. Or its getting us to put in more with lower chance of winning the pot since we dont even have initiative anymore. I would disagree with trax also about balancing your limping strategy. the way u should balance it imo is to not have one if u are vulnerable to being exploited heavily. And to have one when its unlikely you could be exploited enough. Throwing in strong hands to balance is pointless as we dont NEED much of a limping range. I would just get rid of it and have mostly just a rasing range instead. Though a caviat to that is that having a limp behind range after several limpers when youre in late postion is usually fine just because most of the other limpers are going to be protecting you somewhat. So its not like you are influencing the action enormously by appearing super weak. Though everything depends imo.

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

PoorUser    United States. Aug 02 2016 21:55. Posts 7471


  On August 02 2016 19:01 NewbSaibot wrote:
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Thats kinda how I feel honestly, I do so much better when I open. But in the interest of reducing variance the idea is to open limp and limp behind.

seems like you are volunteering yourself to essentially lose small pots oop continually instead of opening and playing larger pots with initiative. seems like standard runbad logic avoiding big pots for the sake of avoiding them and your solution to it seems pretty miserable. its one thing to adopt a more pot controlly style of play on a downer (where you still are taking the initiative and are the one that controls pot size) to lower variance and get some confidence back (which im still not a huge fan of) but youre just taking what are clear +ev spots and turning them into potentially -ev spots.

again +1 to limping behind a few limps with hands that you might otherwise open LP (65s, 22-66etc) along with hands you might otherwise fold (bad kxs, 24s, j7s/q8s etc)

Gambler EmeritusLast edit: 02/08/2016 21:56

DooMeR   United States. Aug 02 2016 22:48. Posts 8544

That's funny poor user. We have same limp behind range except I don't do 24s. I'd do like 35s prob as the worst. And I'd prob even limp behind 77 maybe even 88 if there's like 5 limper and I don't think I'm getting a favorable spot on flops often

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.Last edit: 02/08/2016 22:49

traxamillion   United States. Aug 03 2016 02:01. Posts 10468

It can be alright to have a small openlimping range in ep in some FR games thats all im talking about. And there have been some crushers including otb and eccentric BG who will use openlimps from any position with a balanced range. I dont do it and wouldnt advocate it.

 Last edit: 03/08/2016 02:02

JohnnyBologna   United States. Aug 03 2016 07:38. Posts 1401

Jacksonville is like 4 hours from swfl damn, i gotta play in that room sometime though. Anyways, theres a preflop chart i found on upswing poker(douglas polk, ryan fee) from another post in this forum somehow and thought id pass it on. Its free to dl and thought it was very well constructed and would be a very solid preflop range to play in live.

Just do whats right 

DooMeR   United States. Aug 03 2016 08:06. Posts 8544

Ye I agree I like that chart as well for live but u can get away with a little extra.

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 03 2016 11:04. Posts 4943


  On August 03 2016 06:38 JohnnyBologna wrote:
Jacksonville is like 4 hours from swfl damn, i gotta play in that room sometime though. Anyways, theres a preflop chart i found on upswing poker(douglas polk, ryan fee) from another post in this forum somehow and thought id pass it on. Its free to dl and thought it was very well constructed and would be a very solid preflop range to play in live.



Yeah, I mean the room is so soft I cant even decide if I should relocate to vegas/socal/soflo when my lease is up. The only thing I dont like is lack of 24 hr card room. Thanks for the chart on upswing, found it and i REALLLLY like this range better, much more in tune with my aggression tendencies.

bye now 

JohnnyBologna   United States. Aug 03 2016 16:30. Posts 1401

The room is open till 4am and 24 hours on weekends so its pretty good. The good thing about florida is when its season the snowbirds come down and games become better in florida than anywhere in the U.S.

I lived in vegas and socal before and i think the lifestyle is better for a poker player. Games are soft here but i miss the lights and room selection.

Just do whats right 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 04 2016 00:05. Posts 10468

wouldn't play in socal unless you play 10/20+ and likely mix games and even then florida is much better/softer

 Last edit: 04/08/2016 00:42

 



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