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a new game? by itz-sooooted, September 29


ok so a bit about me. i'm primarily a 6 max player... taught that way. play 26/22, 3 bet a ton (like 10%, probably bad given the stakes that i play). profitable up to 100NL... haven't tried any higher.

i play a bit of HU, and beat 50NL and 100NL nicely there (again haven't tried higher)

anyway, yesterday, i decided (out of the blue) to 12 table full ring games! anyway, i could only last 100 minutes or so before burning out like a little slut.

im surprised how nitty i had to be. folding AJo EP, folding 22/33/44 in EP (which are normally raises from any position SH for me), folding QJs EP (WTF ITS SUCH A 3 BET HAND!).

of course, it cost me a fair bit of money to learn to fold QJs in EP. it went down something like this: i open QJs from UTG+1, MP repops me, and i make the call OOP (oopssss). flop comes down Qxx, and half my stack later, we're at showdown, getting pwnd by AQo. brilliant.

anyway, how nitty you ask? 12.1/9.8, agg factor 4.48, 3 bet 3.3% (wow thats pathetic), wtsd 20%, w$sd at 60%

anyway after my small sample size, i made $45/hr for a tidy $78 profit. win rate 12PTBB/100. solid. graph attached below

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/9a0c3.low stakes grinder.jpg

so i might try this until i have 10K hands, see how it goes, and i might be switching to FULL RING!! and of course, adding tables as i get more experience/move up.

in other news, i MADE A ROYAL FLUSH!! $14 pot lol. i flopped the draw, played it mega passively (3 to the flop) coz i wanted to make that royal so bad. made it on the river! both checked to me, i bet $10 into a $14 pot and unfortunately no payoff

anyway that's it for now... i'm gonna play some more 12 tabling 25NL action in a few hours when there are more ppl online! hopefully play about 3K hands (4 hours worth), and see how i go





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Critique my mix!?!? by Sliggy, September 29


Self-producing a solo album at home, need opinions from EVERYWHERE (not on the song, but on the mix) before I continue / release this shit.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/276264

listen, type, post. any/all feedback appreciated as long as it's constructive :D


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a reason why u shouldnt play over aggro donks HUs by killaherni, September 29


Submitted by : killaherni

Full Tilt Poker Game #15010726841: Table William (heads up) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 10:44:18 ET - 2009/09/29
Seat 1: -MIXO1973- ($55.80)
Seat 2: 72king18 ($59.90)
-MIXO1973- posts the small blind of $0.25
72king18 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to 72king186d8dThJd
-MIXO1973- calls $0.25
72king18 raises to $1.50
-MIXO1973- calls $1

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.00)

   5d2cJh
72king18 bets $1.50
-MIXO1973- raises to $7.50
72king18 raises to $25.50
-MIXO1973- raises to $54.30, and is all in
72king18 calls $28.80
-MIXO1973- shows3d2h3c4s
72king18 shows6d8dThJd

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $111.60)

   5d2cJh7c

River (Pot : $111.60)

   5d2cJh7c3s
-MIXO1973- shows three of a kind, Threes
72king18 shows a pair of Jacks
-MIXO1973- wins the pot ($111.10) with three of a kind, Threes

Summary
Total pot $111.60 | Rake $0.50
Board:5d2cJh7c3s
Seat 1: -MIXO1973- (small blind) showed3d2h3c4s and won ($111.10) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 2: 72king18 (big blind) showed6d8dThJd and lost with a pair of Jacks




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Yawn, morning sessions by NewbSaibot, September 29


Massive traffic accident shutting down entire freeway to work, so I just stayed home for an hour this morning. Decided might as well see what early mornin poker is like.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5222/29710334.jpg

Looks like I need to move back to NL200 soon, dont know how much longer my bankroll can survive at NL25.

Jammed a couple of FD's vs check-minraising fish who hit their sets. Got outplayed by one fish who checked QQ to the river then overbets my value bet on the river.

I thought this hand was *kinda* interesting, least not for the fact that he was running a standard 26/18 at the tbale.

Submitted by : NewbSaibot

Full Tilt Poker Game #15009586431: Table Vehicle (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:02:21 ET - 2009/09/29
Seat 1: sabine87 ($23.01)
Seat 2: GorillaOwner ($29.34)
Seat 3: warro24 ($55.16)
Seat 4: Sai Yang ($25.35)
Seat 5: Hero ($45.32)
Seat 6: xPunkInDrublicx ($44.70)
sabine87 posts the small blind of $0.10
GorillaOwner posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero8d8h
warro24 folds
Sai Yang folds
Hero raises to $0.85
xPunkInDrublicx folds
sabine87 folds
GorillaOwner calls $0.60

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.80)

   TsJc5s
GorillaOwner checks
Hero bets $1
GorillaOwner raises to $3
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $7
GorillaOwner calls $4

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $15.80)

   TsJc5s5h
GorillaOwner checks
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $8
GorillaOwner calls $8

River (Pot : $15.80)

   TsJc5s5h2s
GorillaOwner checks
Hero checks

Showdown
Hero shows8d8h two pair, Eights and Fives
GorillaOwner showsJsKd two pair, Jacks and Fives
GorillaOwner wins the pot ($30.21) with two pair, Jacks and Fives

Summary
Total pot $31.80 | Rake $1.59
Board:TsJc5s5h2s
Seat 1: sabine87 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: GorillaOwner (big blind) showedJsKd and won ($30.21) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 3: warro24 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Sai Yang didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Hero showed8d8h and lost with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 6: xPunkInDrublicx (button) didn't bet (folded)



Basically I figured any good hand had to shove over my 3bet, since regs love to check-raise draws. When he flats I figure he's definitely on a draw, so I bet half pot on turn to "find out where im at" and he calls, so now I know where im at.

Playing 4 tables, i had a 55vpip to my left, a 33vpip, a 42vpip, and 36vpip. So needless to say it just kinda put me in a funk since now I cant raise much of anything. Curiously, the highest vpip player on my right on ANY table was 18vpip. Not sure how this dynamic keeps forming. I just pick tables and next thing I know all the stations are on my left and all the nits who never pay off are on my right. Worst possible scenario imo. Will take another shot at lunch hopefully.


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love by PplusAD, September 29


win750: DIE
win750: OK?
win750: HOPE YOU LL DIE
win750: WITH ALL YOUR ****ING FAMILY
LordAD85: lol
LordAD85: 50$ must be a lot to u
win750: NO I JUST HATE PLAYING AGAINST IDIOT


unfortunately i had to cancel my MMA bout on 17.10 due to a rib injury
T_T

tbh i get a little tired of all the injuries i get from mma training all teh time >-<
i decided that i will still continue mma but also may start some less dangerous sport who additionally supports mma .

so i started BJJ last week
both Gi and no Gi additional to my MMA and Boxing training.

My trainer is BJJ blackelt from brazil named Alex who is close friends with Flroan Müller one of germans best MMA light heavyweight fighters.

the first 3 classes were pretty cool.
I was also happy that alex was impressed by my first bjj tries.
after the first sparring sessions he made the following comment.

alex :He u , what is your name
me : andi
Alex : I wan see u here more often , u got good positions .. u got talent we can work

its also pretty funny to hear a brazilian bjj blackbelt speek english ^^

its exactly the same es in bjj instructional videos
sick accent


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almost had a sick day! by Night2o1, September 29


ROFL.. So I almost had a sick day..
NL100:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/12597.sickestnl100day9bi.jpg

But I was playing nl200 as well. And when you add them up:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/54d58.srsrakebackproLOL.jpg
My hand/play goal for days I am playing on is 8 hours or 4k hands a day (which is like 6-7 hours 6tabling I think). But really I'm probably going to end up at around 3-3.5k each day lol. I 4tabled a lot today and played a total of 8 hours >
you get my second day of rakeback pro'ing! lol

But I'm really happy about recovering.. Now I'd like just the last quarter of the graph for tomorrow, thanks!

In other news I'm fixing to head out of vegas in a couple of days. If I wake up in time today I'm going to get my car worked on (time to replace the timing belt, and maybe this way overly expensive thing they want to replace). Otherwise it'll have to happen on Wednesday.

I had fun hanging out with Neilly's friend GSR_1_INTEG aka Brandon or whatever his name is on lp I honestly can't remember unless I see it I had a really mellow last weekend in Vegas but I'll be back next year anyways..

Big winning day 1 time dealer!


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lust by devon06, September 29


fuck i gotta stop posting when i'm hammered

go steelers!


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ftp for cake by salutary, September 29


vastly overrolled for 50nl on ftp but dont want to move up yet, want to take some out and play without a hud on cake

looking to transfer about 1.2k, i send ftp you send cake, anyone?


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Uncle Sam Goddamn by ToTehEastSide, September 29



I'm so glad Obama is black
(solidarity after the awe wears off)

hey Khan is that u?

jk

ps.
Hope you guys are rdy for the swine flu outbreak cuz boy are they getting geared up for it
Fed gov intelligence is predicting it what.. Oct 15th right?

/me waves
peace


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New start - bleh by NewbSaibot, September 28


I wrote earlier about finally playing properly, having learned a few things about trying to put people on ranges and shit, rather than just seeing how they react to my bet sizing and "find out where im at" in every hand.

Well my fuckin job makes it impossible to get any quality poker time in during the week, so I had to abandon my table selecting rules and just find overall loose tables with high $$$ pots. The result? A session in absolute faggotry.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8893/92043187.jpg

Just too many fucking stations on my left. I must have table selected for over an hour, meaning I just kept constantly joining and leaving tables within 15 hands because every fucking table I sat at had 2-3 fuckin homo's running 50+ vpip on on my left with 0% fold cbet. Nothing I could do would shake em. I ended up raising $2 preflop with hands like KQo just because I got tired of them calling with rags and pairing up, no dice. They still call with rags. Then came the tilt, as I started getting check-minraised on totally random fuck flops and just all sorts of other tilt inducing shit fish love to do like overbet jam, check-raise allin with Ace high and hit, etc etc.

I try to find tables where all the fags are on my right so I can iso, unfortunately every single table just kept ending up the exact opposite. Maybe thats why those seats were available, other nits/tags jumping ship due to shitty ass position.

Just gotta table select better. Or find a way to play retards OOP every single hand. I guess nitting it up to like 10/8 oughta do it.


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ufc ultimate figher 10 by CrownRoyal, September 28


is there a good place to watch this online? torrents are fine too but i can't find anything? wtf am i incompetent?


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how to recognize a juicy table by piratematerial, September 28


short post to share a small joy; fishwarrzz! really how hard can you butcher a hand

Submitted by : piratematerial

PokerStars Game #33409135282: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2009/09/28 22:24:06 ET
Table Concordia II 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: golfhack4711 ($128.90 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerhaasje ($233 in chips)
Seat 3: sten13 ($79.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Pokrfac ($148.20 in chips)
Seat 5: King_Crisss ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: showtime ($42 in chips)
sten13: posts small blind $1
Pokrfac: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to pokerhaasje 6h4s
King_Crisss: raises $4 to $6
showtime: folds
golfhack4711: calls $6
pokerhaasje: folds
sten13: calls $5
Pokrfac: calls $4

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.00)

   Qh3sKc
sten13: checks
Pokrfac: checks
King_Crisss: checks
golfhack4711: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $24.00)

   Qh3sKcAc
sten13: checks
Pokrfac: checks
King_Crisss: checks
golfhack4711: bets $6
sten13: raises $6 to $12
Pokrfac: folds
King_Crisss: folds
golfhack4711: raises $12 to $24
sten13: raises $12 to $36
golfhack4711: raises $86.90 to $122.90 and is all-in
sten13: calls $37.70 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($49.20) returned to golfhack4711

River (Pot : $171.40)

   Qh3sKcAc2c

Showdown
sten13: shows Qd3h (two pair, Queens and Threes)
golfhack4711: shows QcKd (two pair, Kings and Queens)
golfhack4711 collected $168.40 from pot

Summary
Total pot $171.40 | Rake $3
Board  Qh3sKcAc2c
Seat 1: golfhack4711 showed QcKd and won ($168.40) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: pokerhaasje (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: sten13 (small blind) showed Qd3h and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 4: Pokrfac (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: King_Crisss folded on the Turn
Seat 6: showtime folded before Flop (didnt bet)



fun detail. KQ berates Q3 for playing that hand after


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Art of Inducing by OpWestAcct, September 28


Can anyone link me to any articles that may have discussed profitable induceaments in various scenarios? Or just discuss here.


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220 cake for 220 stars/ftp by shaneomac, September 28


i got roughly 220 on cake that i want to exchange for stars or ftp. if anyone can help thatd b much appreciated!


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Trials and tribulations by NewbSaibot, September 28


Lets see, where to begin.

Well it’s been awhile since I updated my blog. I like to keep it for real updates only, like when things change, such as in life, in poker, whatever. I also only like to post when I have results, such as a monthly summary of earnings, rather than posting wishful thinking, about how I hope I succeed.

So this month has been, interesting… Last month I remarked that I was on my last leg of poker, having gone around the world twice, coming to the realization I might not be cut out for this, which would really make me feel like a failure because I still don’t consider poker all *that* difficult, at least not at the early levels. Yet still I could not beat any level of poker, which I guess says something about myself. I told myself I had a couple of last ditch ideas on how I might win, and if those didn’t pan out I’d have to hang it up. One of those ideas was to hire a coach, briefly. Since I feel I understand the game, and I have seen a lot traversing the stakes, all I really needed was a little leakfinding assistance. Just things I haven’t seen recreated in poker videos, or read about in online articles. Very specific stuff that I know I do repeatedly. I needed someone there to backhand me and say “now why are you doing that? Have you considered the possibility of this instead?”

The resulting lessons really opened my eyes, and I discovered I had some very severe fundamental flaws about why I should do certain things and why others do them to me. One of the biggest things I discovered about myself was that I don’t ever try to put people on a range of hands, but rather put them on an intent. Instead of saying “well I think he could have this therefore he will call, or he will bet” I would say “well he called my bet, therefore his intent is to call or bet later” or “if he folds to this check raise he has nothing…if I raise his cbet then he was just cbetting”. I would judge a persons likely future actions based upon their reaction to my bet, therefore I would always use very peculiar bet sizing tailored around each opponent that I thought would elicit a certain reaction to let me know if I was ahead or not, or if I could steal the pot. This is fine and dandy and all, and probably useful as the last part of one’s meta game, but it simply must be prefaced with the act of putting someone on a range of hands and deciding how best to play vs that range, not just vs their intent. I finally started calling out ranges on the flop, like “well he could call with any SC, any two face cards, all PP’s” and then go through the natural process of ruling out certain combinations of hands based upon flop texture. This is how it’s supposed to be done, and shockingly I NEVER did this before.

So I picked a limit I felt like giving another try at. Since im not burdened by the paranoia of bankroll mgm’t, and can easily fund myself aggressively for NL25, I figured that would be a good start, and the payback is meaningful enough to be able to take the game seriously. Im not so spewy that I run the risk of losing 20 BI’s in a single day, and due to massive issues of tilt I have to quit at 2 BI’s anyway so a 13-15 BI rule should suffice for poker variance and to keep my confidence strong when I do lose some.

The following is my September graph; excluding the 1st day in which I played a session at NL100 with 1 buyin.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3292/allstakesr.jpg

The word sloppy comes to mind. What’s both sad and cool about this is that this is probably the best I’ve ever done. I’ve made more money in a single month before, but only by doing stupid shit like sitting down one-table grinding NL400 for an hour each day. For starters, I just put in 10000 hands in a single month. That’s like some sort of landmark for me. The rest is a little more clearly defined in the following graphs.

NL25 – where I started:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9425/nl25iw.jpg

So I had a bit of a streak here. Not much volume, but after doubling my starting bankroll I thought “well shit maybe I don’t need to start down here, let’s see where else I can go”. I figured 13 buyins at NL50 was adequate.

NL50 – finding out where I’m at:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7307/nl50.jpg

So I bombed. You can see I really tried, both in volume and in comebacks. Not quite sure what to make of this graph honestly. I don’t understand why my redline is always so high. I guess it must mean I bluff a lot and the blue line reflectc where I get caught or something, because my showdown winnings suck. So basically I never showdown a good hand. Statwise I played almost identical to NL25, and maybe that’s the problem. NL50 definitely feels different. NL25 is just an overall very weak passive game. Hardly anybody raises, limpers are ridiculously easy to isolate, people fold to an uncanny amount of cbets, and overall nobody ever really resists you. When they do it’s with something horrible like a stubborn PP or TPNK. NL50 seems to be where all the card runner newbies are coming out. My iso’s get squeezed, my steals get 3bet, my cbets get check-raised, and when I finally have had enough and decide im going to showdown, I’m completely dominated. So my failure here I suppose is that I haven’t adapted. I keep playing the same way I have at NL25 and it just wont work. Or perhaps what I do at NL25 is just pure luc, who knows.

As a result of my inability to adjust to NL50, I am going to hang at NL25 longer. I think once I have about 18 BI’s ill take another shot. My failure at NL50 may just be one of confidence, taking all these shots with like 10 BI’s might be affecting my play more than I realize.

Finally, actual session results:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/219/statsh.jpg

I must shake my head in shame at the NL200 hands. Needless to say tilt still gets the better of me, and after losing 5 BI’s in the blink of an eye at NL50 and then smashing a picture on my wall, I said “fuck it” and chased back my losses. But hey, it worked. If anybody wants lessons in how to properly chase losses, gimme a shout. I think I can coach loss-chasing all the way up to 5/10 at the moment. Also goes for anyone who wants to stick their entire bankroll for a single buyin at the highest limit possible.




I must say, in the end, it does feel good to do something consistently. Putting in hands, playing for a few hours, seeing results based upon consistent play, and so on. Doubling up at an NL400 table one day, then losing it at NL600, then tripling up at NL200, and bouncing back and forth all over the fucking place sure feels lame. Hopefully having dipped my toes in the water at higher limits will have some sort of positive outcome in the future. For one, the betsizing doesn’t scare me moving up, so I’ve got that out of my system. And since I have seen what it is like to be 3bet by a reg with 89s, it wont completely blow me away when it happens again, nor will I reject the possibility that someone could do this when I have KK and somehow we’re getting it allin on a 678 flop.

Till that day…..




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Solid morning session by Svenman87, September 28


+500 so far in 820 hands
even after like my 2nd hand in donating to thecleaner for a buyin :[
Played okay, made some bad bluffs though that probably cost me another 100 or so.

eh, got to get ready for class.

would be up about 800 if my KK would have held in a 3 way all in vs QQ and 55... 55 someone was in the pot and still spiked oh well. Still very pleased with today so far.

GL LP

I really think 4 tabling is optimum for my game, I can get solid reads on players gameplay and how tilt prone they are.


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update + birthday by longple, September 28


birthday today, 21 years old, hurray me!

gonna go out with some friends tonight, eat some good shiet and drink lots of beers! gonna be awzumm

anyways, poker has been best to date this month for me too, as ive spammed my blog with updates this whole month some of u might get tired of it, but w/e!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/f856d9ff393bc434346ae4d92c9b9536.jpg

5k hands to go to reach my goal, im sure ill make it just fine these last 2 days.

100nl has been a blast so far, regs are bad, fish are bad, i run pretty good. so, it has just been gr8.

took a small 200nl shot 2 tabling for some hours, it went well imo, i felt that i competed well with the regs, mostly it was 3-4 handed in the games i played. ran into some gay runners and stuff, but its all good.

Im defenetely starting next month with 100nl too, build roll, get comfortable, also 10k hand sample is pretty small.


then again, i was able to beat 100nl last winter for about 30k hands so it shouldnt just be this sick heater and that ill be a loser at 100nl. that i deff think not.

Thanks and gl guys!

happy birthday song, epic




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Even.+ Monthly results by vasoline73, September 28


Well, in the longrun I'm finally back to even .

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/74dfb.intheblack.png

Around hand 16500 (a little before my last blog), I tilted off a huge amount of my roll in one day taking a frustrated NL5 shot, and then it was downhill from there. Around hand 26000 I really decided that I would need to improve or quit, and even though I wasn't doing well at first, I think I've finally fixed some big leaks and am now a sure 100% winner at NL2 (lol... ) and *probably* a pretty good NL5 player.

While I know that playing out of your BR is generally unadvised, I felt a little inspired by reading Ace on The River by Barry Greenstein to take an occasional shot at NL25 games.. I only played one table, focused and probably played only about 500 hands overall, but I did it both for learning experience and because it was a good game with one or two fishy players. NL25 players don't seem too much different than NL5 players, so I feel like the only thing holding me back is my bankroll. While it's not the safest BR managament, I think that it's ok to take the occasional shot at a limit above you if you are a favorite in the game and play smart.

My BR is now 125$.. which obviously isn't alot, but it was only 40 bucks earlier this month, so I've done a good job playing through and building up. With the Take2 bonus at the end of the month my roll will be at 175.. which will be getting close to a solid NL10 roll.

Gamewise, I feel like I've improved alot also, and that's always good right?

My lifetime EV graph makes me cry though

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/11912.evintheblack.png

Anyways, this is my month...

Hopefully I can put in more volume and increase my win rate further.. really, there's some breakeven in the middle of that graph that I think I can do better than in the upcoming month.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/ab3de.month.png
http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/8498f.showdown.png

Wish me luck. Really, without LP and the help I get from comments and learning from threads, I would be nowhere in poker. Not that I'm anywhere now, but you guys get the point . I feel like I'm really starting to get better.

-Jack


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Poker Etiquette by hhse, September 28


I find it very very rude for people to purposely leave the moment they double up...

Seriously, these people need a good beating.


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banned by spets1, September 28


so i was banned for a week. Im not 100% sure for what but im guessing it was for making reposts in the ROFL thread.

Im just asking next time im banned to at least send me a pm to tell me what i was banned for, and for how long.

I was just banned, i didnt know for what, didnt know for how long or by who, which was bs.
When you use ur ban hammer let people know for what! and how long! have some courtesy.


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