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how to recognize a juicy table by piratematerial, September 28


short post to share a small joy; fishwarrzz! really how hard can you butcher a hand

Submitted by : piratematerial

PokerStars Game #33409135282: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2009/09/28 22:24:06 ET
Table Concordia II 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: golfhack4711 ($128.90 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerhaasje ($233 in chips)
Seat 3: sten13 ($79.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Pokrfac ($148.20 in chips)
Seat 5: King_Crisss ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: showtime ($42 in chips)
sten13: posts small blind $1
Pokrfac: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to pokerhaasje 6h4s
King_Crisss: raises $4 to $6
showtime: folds
golfhack4711: calls $6
pokerhaasje: folds
sten13: calls $5
Pokrfac: calls $4

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.00)

   Qh3sKc
sten13: checks
Pokrfac: checks
King_Crisss: checks
golfhack4711: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $24.00)

   Qh3sKcAc
sten13: checks
Pokrfac: checks
King_Crisss: checks
golfhack4711: bets $6
sten13: raises $6 to $12
Pokrfac: folds
King_Crisss: folds
golfhack4711: raises $12 to $24
sten13: raises $12 to $36
golfhack4711: raises $86.90 to $122.90 and is all-in
sten13: calls $37.70 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($49.20) returned to golfhack4711

River (Pot : $171.40)

   Qh3sKcAc2c

Showdown
sten13: shows Qd3h (two pair, Queens and Threes)
golfhack4711: shows QcKd (two pair, Kings and Queens)
golfhack4711 collected $168.40 from pot

Summary
Total pot $171.40 | Rake $3
Board  Qh3sKcAc2c
Seat 1: golfhack4711 showed QcKd and won ($168.40) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: pokerhaasje (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: sten13 (small blind) showed Qd3h and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 4: Pokrfac (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: King_Crisss folded on the Turn
Seat 6: showtime folded before Flop (didnt bet)



fun detail. KQ berates Q3 for playing that hand after


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Art of Inducing by OpWestAcct, September 28


Can anyone link me to any articles that may have discussed profitable induceaments in various scenarios? Or just discuss here.


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220 cake for 220 stars/ftp by shaneomac, September 28


i got roughly 220 on cake that i want to exchange for stars or ftp. if anyone can help thatd b much appreciated!


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Trials and tribulations by NewbSaibot, September 28


Lets see, where to begin.

Well it’s been awhile since I updated my blog. I like to keep it for real updates only, like when things change, such as in life, in poker, whatever. I also only like to post when I have results, such as a monthly summary of earnings, rather than posting wishful thinking, about how I hope I succeed.

So this month has been, interesting… Last month I remarked that I was on my last leg of poker, having gone around the world twice, coming to the realization I might not be cut out for this, which would really make me feel like a failure because I still don’t consider poker all *that* difficult, at least not at the early levels. Yet still I could not beat any level of poker, which I guess says something about myself. I told myself I had a couple of last ditch ideas on how I might win, and if those didn’t pan out I’d have to hang it up. One of those ideas was to hire a coach, briefly. Since I feel I understand the game, and I have seen a lot traversing the stakes, all I really needed was a little leakfinding assistance. Just things I haven’t seen recreated in poker videos, or read about in online articles. Very specific stuff that I know I do repeatedly. I needed someone there to backhand me and say “now why are you doing that? Have you considered the possibility of this instead?”

The resulting lessons really opened my eyes, and I discovered I had some very severe fundamental flaws about why I should do certain things and why others do them to me. One of the biggest things I discovered about myself was that I don’t ever try to put people on a range of hands, but rather put them on an intent. Instead of saying “well I think he could have this therefore he will call, or he will bet” I would say “well he called my bet, therefore his intent is to call or bet later” or “if he folds to this check raise he has nothing…if I raise his cbet then he was just cbetting”. I would judge a persons likely future actions based upon their reaction to my bet, therefore I would always use very peculiar bet sizing tailored around each opponent that I thought would elicit a certain reaction to let me know if I was ahead or not, or if I could steal the pot. This is fine and dandy and all, and probably useful as the last part of one’s meta game, but it simply must be prefaced with the act of putting someone on a range of hands and deciding how best to play vs that range, not just vs their intent. I finally started calling out ranges on the flop, like “well he could call with any SC, any two face cards, all PP’s” and then go through the natural process of ruling out certain combinations of hands based upon flop texture. This is how it’s supposed to be done, and shockingly I NEVER did this before.

So I picked a limit I felt like giving another try at. Since im not burdened by the paranoia of bankroll mgm’t, and can easily fund myself aggressively for NL25, I figured that would be a good start, and the payback is meaningful enough to be able to take the game seriously. Im not so spewy that I run the risk of losing 20 BI’s in a single day, and due to massive issues of tilt I have to quit at 2 BI’s anyway so a 13-15 BI rule should suffice for poker variance and to keep my confidence strong when I do lose some.

The following is my September graph; excluding the 1st day in which I played a session at NL100 with 1 buyin.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3292/allstakesr.jpg

The word sloppy comes to mind. What’s both sad and cool about this is that this is probably the best I’ve ever done. I’ve made more money in a single month before, but only by doing stupid shit like sitting down one-table grinding NL400 for an hour each day. For starters, I just put in 10000 hands in a single month. That’s like some sort of landmark for me. The rest is a little more clearly defined in the following graphs.

NL25 – where I started:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9425/nl25iw.jpg

So I had a bit of a streak here. Not much volume, but after doubling my starting bankroll I thought “well shit maybe I don’t need to start down here, let’s see where else I can go”. I figured 13 buyins at NL50 was adequate.

NL50 – finding out where I’m at:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7307/nl50.jpg

So I bombed. You can see I really tried, both in volume and in comebacks. Not quite sure what to make of this graph honestly. I don’t understand why my redline is always so high. I guess it must mean I bluff a lot and the blue line reflectc where I get caught or something, because my showdown winnings suck. So basically I never showdown a good hand. Statwise I played almost identical to NL25, and maybe that’s the problem. NL50 definitely feels different. NL25 is just an overall very weak passive game. Hardly anybody raises, limpers are ridiculously easy to isolate, people fold to an uncanny amount of cbets, and overall nobody ever really resists you. When they do it’s with something horrible like a stubborn PP or TPNK. NL50 seems to be where all the card runner newbies are coming out. My iso’s get squeezed, my steals get 3bet, my cbets get check-raised, and when I finally have had enough and decide im going to showdown, I’m completely dominated. So my failure here I suppose is that I haven’t adapted. I keep playing the same way I have at NL25 and it just wont work. Or perhaps what I do at NL25 is just pure luc, who knows.

As a result of my inability to adjust to NL50, I am going to hang at NL25 longer. I think once I have about 18 BI’s ill take another shot. My failure at NL50 may just be one of confidence, taking all these shots with like 10 BI’s might be affecting my play more than I realize.

Finally, actual session results:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/219/statsh.jpg

I must shake my head in shame at the NL200 hands. Needless to say tilt still gets the better of me, and after losing 5 BI’s in the blink of an eye at NL50 and then smashing a picture on my wall, I said “fuck it” and chased back my losses. But hey, it worked. If anybody wants lessons in how to properly chase losses, gimme a shout. I think I can coach loss-chasing all the way up to 5/10 at the moment. Also goes for anyone who wants to stick their entire bankroll for a single buyin at the highest limit possible.




I must say, in the end, it does feel good to do something consistently. Putting in hands, playing for a few hours, seeing results based upon consistent play, and so on. Doubling up at an NL400 table one day, then losing it at NL600, then tripling up at NL200, and bouncing back and forth all over the fucking place sure feels lame. Hopefully having dipped my toes in the water at higher limits will have some sort of positive outcome in the future. For one, the betsizing doesn’t scare me moving up, so I’ve got that out of my system. And since I have seen what it is like to be 3bet by a reg with 89s, it wont completely blow me away when it happens again, nor will I reject the possibility that someone could do this when I have KK and somehow we’re getting it allin on a 678 flop.

Till that day…..




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Solid morning session by Svenman87, September 28


+500 so far in 820 hands
even after like my 2nd hand in donating to thecleaner for a buyin :[
Played okay, made some bad bluffs though that probably cost me another 100 or so.

eh, got to get ready for class.

would be up about 800 if my KK would have held in a 3 way all in vs QQ and 55... 55 someone was in the pot and still spiked oh well. Still very pleased with today so far.

GL LP

I really think 4 tabling is optimum for my game, I can get solid reads on players gameplay and how tilt prone they are.


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update + birthday by longple, September 28


birthday today, 21 years old, hurray me!

gonna go out with some friends tonight, eat some good shiet and drink lots of beers! gonna be awzumm

anyways, poker has been best to date this month for me too, as ive spammed my blog with updates this whole month some of u might get tired of it, but w/e!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/f856d9ff393bc434346ae4d92c9b9536.jpg

5k hands to go to reach my goal, im sure ill make it just fine these last 2 days.

100nl has been a blast so far, regs are bad, fish are bad, i run pretty good. so, it has just been gr8.

took a small 200nl shot 2 tabling for some hours, it went well imo, i felt that i competed well with the regs, mostly it was 3-4 handed in the games i played. ran into some gay runners and stuff, but its all good.

Im defenetely starting next month with 100nl too, build roll, get comfortable, also 10k hand sample is pretty small.


then again, i was able to beat 100nl last winter for about 30k hands so it shouldnt just be this sick heater and that ill be a loser at 100nl. that i deff think not.

Thanks and gl guys!

happy birthday song, epic




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Even.+ Monthly results by vasoline73, September 28


Well, in the longrun I'm finally back to even .

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/74dfb.intheblack.png

Around hand 16500 (a little before my last blog), I tilted off a huge amount of my roll in one day taking a frustrated NL5 shot, and then it was downhill from there. Around hand 26000 I really decided that I would need to improve or quit, and even though I wasn't doing well at first, I think I've finally fixed some big leaks and am now a sure 100% winner at NL2 (lol... ) and *probably* a pretty good NL5 player.

While I know that playing out of your BR is generally unadvised, I felt a little inspired by reading Ace on The River by Barry Greenstein to take an occasional shot at NL25 games.. I only played one table, focused and probably played only about 500 hands overall, but I did it both for learning experience and because it was a good game with one or two fishy players. NL25 players don't seem too much different than NL5 players, so I feel like the only thing holding me back is my bankroll. While it's not the safest BR managament, I think that it's ok to take the occasional shot at a limit above you if you are a favorite in the game and play smart.

My BR is now 125$.. which obviously isn't alot, but it was only 40 bucks earlier this month, so I've done a good job playing through and building up. With the Take2 bonus at the end of the month my roll will be at 175.. which will be getting close to a solid NL10 roll.

Gamewise, I feel like I've improved alot also, and that's always good right?

My lifetime EV graph makes me cry though

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/11912.evintheblack.png

Anyways, this is my month...

Hopefully I can put in more volume and increase my win rate further.. really, there's some breakeven in the middle of that graph that I think I can do better than in the upcoming month.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/ab3de.month.png
http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/8498f.showdown.png

Wish me luck. Really, without LP and the help I get from comments and learning from threads, I would be nowhere in poker. Not that I'm anywhere now, but you guys get the point . I feel like I'm really starting to get better.

-Jack


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Poker Etiquette by hhse, September 28


I find it very very rude for people to purposely leave the moment they double up...

Seriously, these people need a good beating.


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banned by spets1, September 28


so i was banned for a week. Im not 100% sure for what but im guessing it was for making reposts in the ROFL thread.

Im just asking next time im banned to at least send me a pm to tell me what i was banned for, and for how long.

I was just banned, i didnt know for what, didnt know for how long or by who, which was bs.
When you use ur ban hammer let people know for what! and how long! have some courtesy.


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Catchy song by sooon2b, September 28


Owl City - Fireflies



I like it, its v nice imo.

Also, who can recommend me a HU coach for ssnl/msnl


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Team Quest by NotSorry, September 28


I'm starting training with Team Quest tomorrow at the Redding, Ca location. I'm very excited and probably psyching myself out a little but oh wells. Looking to have a fight coming up by the end of October so going to be busting my ass off in 2 a days for the next 2-3 weeks. Hopefully I do well enough to impress a scout or some sponsors.


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7bi swongz by Night2o1, September 27


I took a break at -650 or so. Got myself together and played 4 and 5 tables. Ran really good and I think I played my hands well. Not at my hand goal but this weekend I've kind of taken off since its my last one in vegas. Really glad I didn't finish the day down 7bi lol.

Maybe will sneak in some hands later.. I feel a little drained after the swong.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/807ea.7biswongz.jpg


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my return to 6max nl25! by Into Infinity, September 27


http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/a1f28.derp.png

and it went tremendously well!


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gift ideas by egood, September 27


my gf wants to get me something cool and unique for my birthday, but i dont know what to ask for. budget would be like $100-$200. ill ship $5 on stars to whoever has best idea.


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shipped a step 1... ehhr 5 by piratematerial, September 27


so i was just playing some $7 steps on the side of comfortably 4 tabling 200nl 6max and busted out of a couple already when i had to rearrange my tables a bit to be able to watch a cardrunners video when i notice busto_soon at my table..

wtf is busto_soon doing at a $7 sng. and why did no one bust out yet, its been running for 10 minutes at least? OMG FML i did the old accidentally register for a $700 sng...

luckily i started out my poker career destroying the $10 dollar sngs so i have a few thousand games behind my belt and to make a long story short i ship a step 5 obviously!

BUT what the hell do i do with a step6 ticket?????????? guys if i have to play this i'm putting my like 1/4th of my BR on a single SNG

ps: with a very heavy hearth i went to check the sngs i busted out already. luckily they were really 7$ pfff
http://www.hydrationstation.co.za/images/lucky_fish08/lucky_fish08.jpg


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C/C flop -> open bet blank turn by fira, September 27


As the pf aggressor, hero c/c's flop, then open bets a blank turn.

I see this line so much in higher stakes mtts lately but I don't find myself using it often. It seems like hero always has a hand in these situations. Anyone use this line much and can explain the reasoning behind it if there is any?


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sundays by PplusAD, September 27


lol i should sersously stop playing poker on sundays

Sundays have always been my worst losing days in forever.
today - 400

i got a total of 3 good hands in 1600
lost flush vs flush
set vs fd flop all in
and TP + fd vs set on flop all i

rest of the session was just me missing all flops for 200 miles.

>-<


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Borgata Poker Open by thewh00sel, September 27


http://www.theborgata.com/userimages/...B35171-B34D-4EE6-4EE2396B71932D69.jpg

I flew to Atlantic City with a friend of mine to play the WPT event at the Borgata this past week. It was a productive trip overall; made day 2 of the tournament and lost an all in preflop with AA to TT for 110k chips at 600-1200 to the eventual 3rd place finisher, shit happens.

Played some cash games while I was there and they were very juicy during the tournament. Made like 30k total over the course of the tournament, then dumped half back the last day playing a little poorly and also a little coolering. So in total a 16k profit trip after my $3500 tourney buy in, cant rly complain.

That's it.


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September by Loco, September 27





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random thought's + i need halp~! by jasper5408, September 27


life's been great the past few days. i've just been feeling alot better than i normally do (i used to feel like i constantly had these mild headaches during the entire day). and maybe depression is lightening up a bit as well~~

anyway i've got a few minutes before i go over to a friend's place and watch/eat/eat some football/pizza/wings etc.

can't even believe my string of winning sessions at nl50 but lately but i've started to doubt my game (despite the good results). Mainly because i feel like i play pretty decent and win some small monies and then cooler a guy with a set or an over pair or some higher flush. i mean i get coolered all the time too, but i don't feel like i'm out thinking my opponents as much as i thought i was (ie i don't really bluff/call to thin/etc). i'm trying to fight the trend towards nonchalant robotic play and have therefore been trying to analyze some hands. hopefully this gets in before the end-of-month-results blog posts.

i'm probably going to do this pretty regularly and thanks in advance for all the advices.


Hand 1 + Show Spoiler +


i feel like if he had raised bigger on the flop i would have been more inclined to 3 bet. but i mean he gave me pretty decent odds i think. and i don't think there's any fold equity on the flop anyway. so i think call on flop is a no-brainer. on the turn, i opt to c/r in case he has a combo draw or some pair like JJ TT with a heart. i don't really know about my play here. and to be honest i had a brain lapse where i thought this was a 3 bet pot (because when i hold ak it's almost always a 3 bet pot) so i think i probably weighted his range more towards pairs. what line do you guys like here?

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was gonna bluff the river, but that's such a weird rundown of cards, as it hits nearly all draws, 2 pairs, etc. i also beat JT, T9, etc other low pairs on the flop. didn't really think a bluff here would fold out much that i didn't beat anyway. i normally 3 bet pf, but i just sat at table and i tend to be a bit more showdown happy earlier in the session. flop/turn completely standard? c/r turN?

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i normally cbet ~100% of flops heads up, but am trying to put an effort into checking occasionally with air/draws/top pair hands. i raise turn because i think my hand's best, plenty worse call here (JT, T9, 77-JJ) and i think my hand is somewhat disguised. i'm hesitant to let go of this hand because i just started checking top pair, and doubt opponent knows that. also my line does not make that much sense and opponent may do something retarded with a pair of Tens or JJ. in any case i butchered the hand somewhat, and didn't want to call because of that

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4 bet pot, i'm pretty sure i have the nuts. questioning my flop bet, i think AK with and without K clubs probably reshoves here? If KK QQ JJ call here with a club i think i'm ok with that too cause they are drawing pretty thin as well. thoughts?
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Some bluffs...i think bet sizing is extremely important to bluffing and i'm pretty sure i fucked a lot of it up.

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not a super strong combo draw, but i think i fold out the higher flush draws which i think is crucial. prob fold out everything here except for sets and high overpairs? when do you like flat call and when do you like raise? a problem i see is that villain bets half pot on turn 6 into 12, and i'm getting 3:1 here. i guess reads prob dictate if i raise (his half pot bet=weakness) or flat (his half pot bet=inducing a raise)

bluff 2 + Show Spoiler +


pretty standard i think, he gives up lead on turn, and once he checks river i feel like i'm golden here.


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