poor guy needs help - Page 2

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

"There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing."

What a sorry argument...

If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

Best argument to never do anything. nice.

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

word

On December 28 2010 10:01 WhereDaHoneyz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? "There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing." What a sorry argument... If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

Hi genjix,

could you elaborate on the mcdonalds leftover thing? don't people at mcdonalds generally dump the leftovers on their trays into the garbage? i don't think i've ever really seen people at any fastfood place like that leave their food on the table.

or do you mean you just stand around a mcdonalds and wait for someone to finish eating and when they're about to get up and dump their tray you hurry over and grab their leftovers? i can't get this out of my head, i'm really having a hard time imagining exactly how this would work.

WhereDaHoneyz and Kingpowa you guys are prob utter morons if you think nolan would never do anything nice in his life because of that post.

On December 28 2010 10:01 WhereDaHoneyz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? "There are terrible things in this world, and this one bad thing so I will not do this good thing." What a sorry argument... If you see a person laying in the street wounded, maybe rationalise to yourself that well, he probably gets better & there's tons more people who have it worse off in the world... hope you see how silly that argument is.

The thing is, if you want to do something good - there are a lot better and more urgent targets than a white trash guy living in a hotel with a baby. There's no real argument for this guy to go "pass" those who are more in need except that he has a friggin' laptop and can beg for money in more creative ways.

The argument is not whether he needs help but whether there are people who need even more help and the latter is clearly true. Someone really looking to donate to a good cause can probably get a fuckton of more people happy with $50 than just giving it to this guy. The situation would obviously be different if someone knew this guy in person. Then that guy could help out a friend obviously.

The more I think of it, I'm an idiot for giving him money.

I'll blame it on christmas and feeling generous, and him and I being from two totally different worlds and it being the morning when I read it and feeling tired.

There is still a tiny % that this is legit, and it might have helped. But odds are against that.

-.-; 'bank added fees'

no i promise they didn't - it was more like he didn't pay his bills and now there is a levy on his account deducting his paychecks

if he really wanted to he could always stop his direct deposit and cash his checks at the bank where his check is drawn off of.

On December 28 2010 08:42 Jun wrote: There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs. I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum.

poor people seem to have nothing else to do except have kids

On December 28 2010 11:25 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 08:42 Jun wrote: There's a million people out there who live a much thougher life then this kid, if u arent financialy ready dont make children, he obv has a laptop, and lives in a hotel ffs. I really dont give a shit, the first thing i would do is look for a job or find a relative who can help me out, the last thing is begging for money on a pokerforum. poor people seem to have nothing else to do except have kids

word again.

all the more reason to start charging a baby tax
doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family

On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe?

yea dude, earlier this year LP raised the 700$ to bring water to two different villages in uganda.. thats like hundreds of people that have access to clean water now.. theres food banks and shit like that for people in his case.. im not saying no one should help him, but he needs to help his self instead of going on some internet rampage to get free money.. and money could be better spent to help more people in more need.. but then again theres always someone who needs more help than the next guy..

Someone teach him how to play poker. Feed a fish and it's fed for a day but turn it into a shark and it never has to ask for food again.

On December 28 2010 10:24 wobbly_au wrote: WhereDaHoneyz and Kingpowa you guys are prob utter morons if you think nolan would never do anything nice in his life because of that post.

Did he or I say say that Nolan would never do anything nice because of that post ?

When you face someone, group of people, a cause or you could help, if you think that your it would be better to give your money to someone which is in a worse situation, it is a good way to somewhat procrastinate the help you can offer. I don't think giving to charity is about helping the people more in need but to someone you know you will simply help.

I do feel some empathy for the guy, it does'nt imply that I will give him money, but it does mean that I won't say "gtfo you beggar".

But you may be an utter moron for putting words in people mouth which they never said, and I hope what Tom wrote was cynic.

He should go all in on megamillions

This is exactly the type of back story that lottery winners have, which will drastically increases his chances of scooping the jackpot.

On December 28 2010 15:05 kingpowa wrote: When you face someone, group of people, a cause or you could help, if you think that your it would be better to give your money to someone which is in a worse situation, it is a good way to somewhat procrastinate the help you can offer. I don't think giving to charity is about helping the people more in need but to someone you know you will simply help..

Given that these people who haven't given money to charity before, giving it to this cause would simply be silly. It's not so much "well, you say you're going to give it to charity later" as much as "since they haven't helped those more in need, why should they help this guy now":

Sure that story is tragic and shit, whether it's true or not but doesn't warrant all the fuzz this thread is creating. For every story like this, there are 100+ even worse. Starting to fund idiots who get themselves into trouble by getting a kid while they can't support 'em with their income is a sure way to lose money on a vain cause. Pretty sure there are tons of people like this and the lil' boohoo and a sad background music with a storyteller telling about their tragic past and the american dream don't make 'em any more special.

There are people dying there who could use the help. The fact that you haven't helped them doesn't imply that you should help this guy. If anything, it should make it clear that you're not going to. Priorities man, priorities.

wtf genjix... u were like me defending the position not to donate to haiti bc we all know what happens to relief aid money... there are way better causes than this and the arguement to donate to this guy is not from logic but is an appeal to emotion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

please LP do not donate to this cause ur money is more lifesaving if u donate to fight hunger in africa and across the world. 100K ppl a day die because they dont have food/clean drinking water. I doubt less than 10 mentally sane people a year die in the US from starvation unless they're attempting world records or get trapped or some shit

and for ppl making fun of genjix if he scavenged, shame on urselves. Don't forget to make fun of me for having to sleep on park benches every now and then when I was in highschool.

On December 28 2010 12:54 Bigbobm wrote: all the more reason to start charging a baby tax doesnt make sense to subsidize having kids in a welfare family

this is an interesting idea, you charge people something affordable something like $500 to have a kid. This will prevent a lot of retards from reproducing

if ur thinking of donating Charity Navigator is the best place to find info and find the right organization you want to donate to for the cause that you want to support


http://www.charitynavigator.org/

On December 28 2010 14:27 milkman wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2010 09:12 nolan wrote: right now theres a couple hundred thousand people while on their way to a slow death looking for food in the amazon, and you want us to give a fuck about some shithead who probably hasn't gone a day without food in his ilfe? yea dude, earlier this year LP raised the 700$ to bring water to two different villages in uganda.. thats like hundreds of people that have access to clean water now.. theres food banks and shit like that for people in his case.. im not saying no one should help him, but he needs to help his self instead of going on some internet rampage to get free money.. and money could be better spent to help more people in more need.. but then again theres always someone who needs more help than the next guy..

this was something i supported . If an old man next to you needs help, that involves convenience and allows for a functioning society but donating to this guy is like buying expensive rims for ur car when afterwards you won't have enough money to fix ur busted engine