Am I retarded? - Page 2

what the fuck? you fold ur boat on the river?

On November 07 2010 13:51 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 13:36 rS.Wisdom[9] wrote:   On November 07 2010 11:26 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On November 07 2010 11:25 rS.Wisdom[9] wrote: call and if he plays so terribly like you say, you should have no problem winning it back from him very soon? if it's a close decision, it basically doesn't matter what you do so spend your time focusing on other spots that will affect your winrate more. Wtf man, how can you 'win it back very soon' from a passive rock apart from taking his blinds? Sounds like a joke to me. If it is you are awesome :D And agree that when I call even if I'm right I lose like $10-22 here in a spot that comes up once per 200k hands if ever at higher limits as this kind of player is simply not there. However, now it became a question of self confidence -.- 'soon' doesnt mean within 10 hands, just that if he has a seriously flawed game, you should be winning at a high rate vs him overall, including stealing lots of small pots over and over that more than make up for 1 pot. but why would I do that? Like you play against a fish, and you know he never pots river without the nuts, and a flush card just falls, but you call anyway with your set because you will get the money back later? And in this example I am cross table against him...If anything his presence is awesome for exploiting other players and being able to steal 100% but even then I don't see why you would pay off his stupidly nitty passive strategy just because you like your hand.... If you will argue that he can have combos of hands that add to the amount of his nut hands despite his description, or that there is always the 'wtf' factor which can be quite large because its just 130 hands and we fold just because of his narrow 5.5 combo range that beats us then I'll take it, but arguing that you pay off someone's exploitable style just because you can make the money back and your hand is pretty really seems perverse.

im not saying i agree that he only has better hands than you here, just humoring you that if you were right, he's a great guy to play against and you should show a good profit in the long run anyway, so worrying about this spot so much makes little to no difference in the long run.

On November 07 2010 10:39 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 10:35 TalentedTom wrote: you are way too pesimistic... gotta find the reason behind this. Untill you do you wont make money The reads we have are not enough? He is the guy that you minraise steal and he never plays back, and cbets 40% with 10% raising range and then has 18% turn aggression. This and the reads I mentioned in the OP were a reason behind this. I just can't see what fd's other than KJhh we can expect a passive rock to play like this?

what reads??? stats after 130 hands are no where close enough to the reads required to fold a set riverd boat

STATS ARE NOT READS

i call all day

folding here will most likely affect your win rate negatively than positively.

and quite honestly I don't think i've ever folded in this spot at NL100 and lower. I rarely give my opponents any credit. and for good reason.

what the fuck even the biggest nits never fold here

On November 07 2010 17:04 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 10:39 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On November 07 2010 10:35 TalentedTom wrote: you are way too pesimistic... gotta find the reason behind this. Untill you do you wont make money The reads we have are not enough? He is the guy that you minraise steal and he never plays back, and cbets 40% with 10% raising range and then has 18% turn aggression. This and the reads I mentioned in the OP were a reason behind this. I just can't see what fd's other than KJhh we can expect a passive rock to play like this? what reads??? stats after 130 hands are no where close enough to the reads required to fold a set riverd boat STATS ARE NOT READS

+1

Ok Ok, I concur. I am truly retarded.

Seems like TT uncovered my leak of trusting small samples of stats too much. I really do trust thema lot and change my game significantly based on just 100+ hand sample because that's all you get at NL50 95% of the time

thread is too long didnt read. pro tip for u tho, jam turn. and what ever talentedtom wrote is right too..

On November 07 2010 17:04 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 10:39 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On November 07 2010 10:35 TalentedTom wrote: you are way too pesimistic... gotta find the reason behind this. Untill you do you wont make money The reads we have are not enough? He is the guy that you minraise steal and he never plays back, and cbets 40% with 10% raising range and then has 18% turn aggression. This and the reads I mentioned in the OP were a reason behind this. I just can't see what fd's other than KJhh we can expect a passive rock to play like this? what reads??? stats after 130 hands are no where close enough to the reads required to fold a set riverd boat STATS ARE NOT READS

On November 07 2010 21:06 wobbly_au wrote: thread is too long didnt read. pro tip for u tho, jam turn. and what ever talentedtom wrote is right too..

You guys I just want to say that its awesome that you take your time to comment on micro stakes hands. Thanks.

"STATS ARE NOT READS" is easily most important advice in this thread

you are retarded only because you posted this thread.

you're either comfortable in your slam dunk fold since you know he only raises with QQ's here and don't make a thread, or if you're not damn sure then you should click call and not post this thread.

snap turbo backflip call, while high-fiving your cat

Also don't ever call yourself retarded, don't put yourself down ... ever. That's another part of being pesimistic, you must find the root of your pesimism, it may not be related to poker, it's very important that you find it and change it.

On November 08 2010 01:12 TalentedTom wrote: Also don't ever call yourself retarded, don't put yourself down ... ever. That's another part of being pesimistic, you must find the root of your pesimism, it may not be related to poker, it's very important that you find it and change it.

On November 08 2010 01:12 TalentedTom wrote: Also don't ever call yourself retarded, don't put yourself down ... ever. That's another part of being pesimistic, you must find the root of your pesimism, it may not be related to poker, it's very important that you find it and change it.

+1000 nice guy points lol

On November 08 2010 01:12 TalentedTom wrote: Also don't ever call yourself retarded, don't put yourself down ... ever. That's another part of being pesimistic, you must find the root of your pesimism, it may not be related to poker, it's very important that you find it and change it.

his nanny used to hit him everytime he would fuckup a note on the piano. then make him lay on the floor face down for a wood paddle spanking. she used to call it the spankanator.

he has flush

Maybe you could get yourself a poker coach?