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hehe thanks

Having a low AF factor on the river at micro usually means you're not value betting well enough, it rarely means you're bluffing too much imo. I don't know how you play so I could be wrong. Your stats look fine except your 3bet from blinds is awfully high compared to late position, try 3betting IP more and less OOP. You don't have to 3bet 6-7% especially at NL25, you can pretty much only 3bet for value and still be fine. Fold to 3bet looks a bit high but again it's just a stat. 8k hands is also a small sample. Your c-bet flop and turn are both fine imo. Taking a break definitely helps when you're running bad. Hope your run bad ends soon.

yah I am really trying to play stronger and make sure I'm making the best action on the river. Making sure I don't miss valuebets or bluff in hopeless spots

I'm trying to re tune my aggression cuz I know I've been cbetting and 2barreling-giving up in a lot of hopeless 2brl spots

There's nothing wrong with giving up, at NL25 your barreling range should be heavily weighted towards value anyway since everyone calls too much. You don't have to pull off multi barrel bluffs to maintain image or make money, you can only bet for value and still crush, all of which I'm sure you know but can be easy to forget when you're in a downswing and getting coolered in value spots or getting bad hands to vbet with, etc.

On May 17 2010 17:14 zulu_nation8 wrote: There's nothing wrong with giving up, at NL25 your barreling range should be heavily weighted towards value anyway since everyone calls too much. You don't have to pull off multi barrel bluffs to maintain image or make money, you can only bet for value and still crush, all of which I'm sure you know but can be easy to forget when you're in a downswing and getting coolered in value spots or getting bad hands to vbet with, etc.

yah, I'm focusing on not putting money in without a strong hand lol, not 2brl'ing in bad spots or not extremely high EV spots because of some explicitly good reason

On May 17 2010 16:02 zulu_nation8 wrote: Having a low AF factor on the river at micro usually means you're not value betting well enough, it rarely means you're bluffing too much imo. I don't know how you play so I could be wrong. Your stats look fine except your 3bet from blinds is awfully high compared to late position, try 3betting IP more and less OOP. You don't have to 3bet 6-7% especially at NL25, you can pretty much only 3bet for value and still be fine. Fold to 3bet looks a bit high but again it's just a stat. 8k hands is also a small sample. Your c-bet flop and turn are both fine imo. Taking a break definitely helps when you're running bad. Hope your run bad ends soon.

sorry i didn't mean that low of AF that you're not value betting river. but its usually lower than the flop/turn AF cause you only want to value bet and not bluff. so I was talking to abt the river agg compared to the flop/turn agg. and the bluffing part wasn't the river. it could be the flop/turn where he is betting in bad spots.