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whamm!   Albania. Jan 23 2010 12:37. Posts 11625

well sorry about that too. but it did kinda ruin my happy winning experience now that everyone feels im a greedy bastard
fwiw i wasnt saying you guys were scammers obv, just overexcited and tilted at the same time asking whats up whats up


Into Infinity   United States. Jan 23 2010 13:51. Posts 1884

i fell asleep because they were taking too long and i wake up to this shit


Fayth    Canada. Jan 23 2010 13:54. Posts 10085

just woke up whamm, it's sent haha, talk about overreacting

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

whamm!   Albania. Jan 23 2010 14:10. Posts 11625

again, sorry fayth and semper. mustve been the coffee and cigs. anyway gg


sawseech   Canada. Jan 23 2010 14:20. Posts 3182

i'm a huge fan of flash. when mind, up, and flash came out i was first very impressed by mind and his powerful grasp of timings and unit control. up impressed me with his sense and ability to exploit weaknesses in his opponent's unit composition. flash was the guy who lost to both of them continuously.

then flash basically invented terran management against fact/port. by going fast command into armory/acad, he was able to secure insurmountable eco against offensively fragile builds, securing control of the midgame. this build went on to become the staple tvt build, and fact/port is now the build that players allin with. he applied similar logic to terran vs protoss, and we saw what he went on to do to stork - fact/command into upgrades is now the standard tvp build. he went on to revolutionize the tvz matchup, applying the threat of upgraded marines, early offense, and cheese barracks in near perfect balance.

flash is the center.

jaedong is the HNIC. when he beat defending champion bisu in msl groups on bluestorm, beating him with management on the ultimate management map against the ultimate management player, i knew he was going to be king. he showed tremendous sense in that game and continually moved forward with no regard for his losses; if an attack was going to be profitable, no matter how little, he executed it. this kid has no fear.

he went on to win 3 OSLs, and did it in dominating fashion. this is the guy who, i am sure, at one point in his career won 10000 battles in a row. his tactical sense is unmatched. his speed is raw, his movements are precise, and his responses are immediate.

jaedong is the razor.

on to the games:

g1: flash made too many scvs early game, and could not get enough turrets up to defend as a result. it got worse when jaedong actually mutabal allin'd. if flash scanned and saw that jaedong was still mining gas i would say flash made a huge mistake in this game as following 9 muta timing he could have scanned, basically stopped mining gas, stopped making scvs, and made a billion turrets. this was not the calm/effort build, this was not about getting a 3rd gas and going to hive. this was pure allin. i didn't see a scan go off anywhere else on the map, so i think flash just sorta panicked when he saw the raw muta count and saw that he was going to have trouble defending and got mentally stuck.

g2: great build by jaedong; 3 hatch power muta into transport with no carapace into early hive. jaedong saw that flash was reinforcing at 3 production round intervals. in turn he decided to risk losing his 4th gas at 9 to a drop and to probe with his muta at pre-emptive science vessel timing, presumably to try and force the facility to lift. once he didn't get dropped anywhere, he felt comfortable transposing into the endgame, feeling that guardians were enough to prevent flash from getting his 3rd gas and that he could win the game with the eco he had.

flash decides to drop the main with 2 wraith into 2 vessels into 2 DROPSHIPS, feeling that jaedong just doesn't have enough to defend and that since he himself has hasn't gone 3rd gas, he can't really develop into anything. if the drop fails, he can still eraser at two places with 4 vessels and maybe win, but jaedong really shouldn't have too many scourge at this timing because he saw the wraiths. this makes breaking jaedong @ 9 or 12 a waste of time.

spectacular attack. jaedong didn't do a single thing wrong in this game.

g3: oddeye. jaedong goes 3 hat power mutal with carapace lings, hoping to threaten early-midgame offense in order to get a corner. he chooses the 1 gas corner over the 2 gas bottom right: this diminishes flash's motivation to go after top right. jaedong wants to draw the game out and needs flash to make a mistake.

flash accomodates him, losing 1.5 groups early. it's still oddeye tho. they skirmish indecisively, and jaedong holds topright. flash moves directly into SK, since jaedong really can't defend anywhere because it's oddeye and he can always take his 3rd at his leisure.

jaedong continues to play amazing craft and makes flash pay the cost. at 15:41 we get the sense that the next three minutes will decide the series.

three minutes of savage fighting ensue. jaedong holds. then the power goes out, disconnecting both players. KESPA regulations award jaedong the win, as he was ahead in unit score. a just ruling in my view.

g4: jaedong, as in game two, succesfully predicts flash's opening move and goes pre-emptive pool. flash tries a sunken break from a crippled eco. it fails. jaedong wins OSL.

series thoughts: by stealing game 1, jaedong could discount a cheese barracks or early offense/sunken break in game 2. this was huge for him. jaedong is a favorite over anyone in a 5 game series as his tactical sense combined with his raw speed and reflexes are superior. flash came out cold, and it cost him. i had jaedong winning in 5, with wins on matchpoint, fighting spirit, and matchpoint. i was shocked that flash did not cheese barracks in game 2.

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

sTrAtO   Mexico. Jan 23 2010 14:35. Posts 5882

Here is Game 3:


Look at the end carefully (around minute 18 at the video) Jaedong had lings + at least 4 ultras at 7 oclock + defiler with energy + couple of su nkens to defend the exp... flash had units there but there were at best 12 marines and a bunch of medics... 7oclock base was never going to be destroyed and Jaedong was going to pwn flashs ass in the next minute if things would have continued normally

-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja 

sTrAtO   Mexico. Jan 23 2010 14:37. Posts 5882

and if you look carefully at the very very end of the live game before the blackout... you can see from the minimap that FLash is leaving the 7oclock and plans to return to his mineral only exp

-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja 

Bigbobm   United States. Jan 23 2010 14:51. Posts 5513

i trust fayth with my life

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

CrownRoyal   United States. Jan 23 2010 15:32. Posts 11386

i don't know where but i think i made a bet with lostaccount drunk last night, if that wasn't a dream ship it drunken victory.

WHAT IS THIS 

Bejamin1   Canada. Jan 23 2010 17:00. Posts 7042

There should have been power backups for sure and anything less at this level of SC is inexcusable.

That being said Flash was almost certainly going to lose game three. You'd have to be a really big fan-boy to think he had anything more than a 5% chance of winning, and frankly it was probably less than that. JD was pretty clearly at the point where he could just trade armies with Flash until the game ended in his favour.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

egood   United States. Jan 23 2010 17:06. Posts 1883

 Last edit: 23/01/2010 17:26

lostaccount   Canada. Jan 23 2010 21:36. Posts 6796


  On January 23 2010 14:32 CrownRoyal wrote:
i don't know where but i think i made a bet with lostaccount drunk last night, if that wasn't a dream ship it drunken victory.



haha ya i forgot about taht did i win or did you win?

Goodbye LP, thanks for everything 

CrownRoyal   United States. Jan 23 2010 22:25. Posts 11386

i bet on jaedong

WHAT IS THIS 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jan 23 2010 22:47. Posts 14026

you guys both had bets with me too

I had Jaedong to win 3-1 with a power failure and Flash's dad to be sent home at 10,000:1

I had $10 booked with both of you


Helmet   Philippines. Jan 23 2010 23:01. Posts 930


  On January 23 2010 13:51 Bigbobm wrote:
i trust fayth with my wife



People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City 

 
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