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milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 05:45. Posts 5719


im going back to tournys, if i fuck that up im quitting.

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Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jan 06 2010 05:54. Posts 14026

what time period is this?


milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 05:56. Posts 5719

i duno how long.. prolly 4 months... i guess i duno maybe more.. maybe 5 months

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jan 06 2010 06:27. Posts 14026

just earn another $330 then buyin and win the $1k stimulus at WSOP

ezlife


Elite00   United States. Jan 06 2010 07:08. Posts 683

What stakes?


whamm!   Albania. Jan 06 2010 07:16. Posts 11625

what about supernova status?


milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 08:01. Posts 5719

this is at nl50 mostly, some nl100 and some nl25... my br is pretty demolished right now and my heart isnt in the game anymore.. i used to think this was fun, i used to think it was cool to say i was a professional poker player.. but now i cant even bare to say it.. technically it is my profession, but i could make more money collecting cans off the street... I dont really feel like rebuilding too badly, but i will try.. one last try, ive given this game the last 3 years, ive gotten back 100X more than ive put in thanks to all my good friends that ive met playing.. but like i said, my hearts not in it, if i keep playing its just going to be until i can find something else to do with my life.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.Last edit: 06/01/2010 08:01

k4ir0s   Canada. Jan 06 2010 08:07. Posts 3480

damn, have you tried getting coaching? possibly by one of your friends?

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

Chewits   United Kingdom. Jan 06 2010 08:39. Posts 2539

How many tables you play?

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice. 

milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 08:41. Posts 5719


  On January 06 2010 07:07 k4ir0s wrote:
damn, have you tried getting coaching? possibly by one of your friends?



umm along time ago i did, when i lived with mez and doomer i got a few coaching lessons.. but no not really, ive sweated people and had some smaller lessons from like timdawg and friends, but for the main part they dont find any huge leaks and i keep on playing the same.. i watch alot of deuces cracked and dont see anything major i do wrong or anything like that.. i think my problem is a mix of greed, running bad, and tilt... i make money, get greedy and stop playing.. i think i have not ran very good in my poker life.. and i think my greed and need to hang on to this money just makes me tilt too easy and i think by now if i havent gotten over it, i never will.. thats why tournaments have always been a good fit for me.. i think the peak of my poker knowledge was this last year in vegas, i was playing the best poker of my life, probably because i was able to play alot of live, and higher stakes against better and extremely worse players, it really helped my game out alot. getting reads from people live and using them really helped my learning process in alot of different ways.. but im not in vegas anymore, im not rolled for anything close anymore, and i just dont see any bright light at the end of the tunnel.. mid/high stakes online are a joke and im done day dreaming or just putting that fact aside i guess..

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 08:42. Posts 5719


  On January 06 2010 07:39 Chewits wrote:
How many tables you play?



alot of that was 6 or 9 tables of FR and 6max both.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

whamm!   Albania. Jan 06 2010 08:46. Posts 11625

same shit with me. i dont take is as seriously as i should coz i feel it wont make a difference. but at the same time i need to make money from it, FML.
id suggest taking a break man or switching sites.


spage   Czech Republic. Jan 06 2010 09:27. Posts 76

Start 2tabling, hire a coach, dont autopilot and you will start notice things, your redline will improve a lot, you will gain back your confidence, start winning again and then ship me 1k lol.


ytricky   Germany. Jan 06 2010 09:58. Posts 600

Its really unlikely that you dont have huge leaks. Really i would recommend playing only 6max or FR at any one session and cut down the number of tables. Also you could post the post the positional stats from hem. Maybe there are some easy to spot statistical leaks.


dahornnn   United Kingdom. Jan 06 2010 10:18. Posts 693

u got rakeback ?


TheTank   United States. Jan 06 2010 11:30. Posts 830

no don't quit!!! you can't!!! if you quit, how else will you gain the funds to compensate for all the shitty christmas gifts!?!?

sigh...its like they are throwing money out of a helicopter and i dont have any hands...so i just break even. 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 06 2010 11:31. Posts 10896

maybe you should take somes time to think about your red line?


Mariuslol   Norway. Jan 06 2010 12:24. Posts 4742


  On January 06 2010 10:31 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
maybe you should take somes time to think about your red line?



Was thinking the same thing.

And you say you saw yourself as a "professional" Like this is how you make your living. 96k hands in 4 months is very little. I played 4-6 tables last month, 80hours, and got 40.000 hands.

80 hours is 2hours 40min "ish" a day. A normal day job you work 140 - 180 hours a month.

Means if you treated it like a normal job, you'd have x6 the volume, end up 4000 dollar, + rake, if you have a good deal, 8000 dollar, which isn't to bad. And if you work on ur game, fix ur red line among other things I'd go up even more.


Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh.

GL with whatever you do <3


battsmasta   United States. Jan 06 2010 13:12. Posts 90

i believe in you, make it happen!


YoMeR   United States. Jan 06 2010 13:26. Posts 12438

Dude you need to stop being such a lazy cunt. Gotta give yourself a reality check. If you really want to succeed at this game you gotta put in real working hours. If you can't then you're better off with a real job man.

even 6 tabling say 30-40 hrs a week you should easily put in 50k+ hands a month. at NL50 that's about 1k in rake back alone not to mention possible profits.

You should get out of the mentality that poker is "easy money" because for most of us it's not. We aren't all Tom Dwans, or what not. The only way people like us are going to get results is HARD WORK. Might be a scary concept but if you really work and practice at it, it will become easier and easier to grind more and more and your capacity to grind will increase as you work harder and harder.

That said your graph is telling me you're spewing massively in non-showdown pots. I'm assuming this is mostly 6 max. And if it is then you gotta take a hard look at your game as well.

eZ Life. 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 06 2010 13:30. Posts 15163


  On January 06 2010 12:26 YoMeR wrote:
Dude you need to stop being such a lazy cunt. Gotta give yourself a reality check. If you really want to succeed at this game you gotta put in real working hours. If you can't then you're better off with a real job man.

even 6 tabling say 30-40 hrs a week you should easily put in 50k+ hands a month. at NL50 that's about 1k in rake back alone not to mention possible profits.

You should get out of the mentality that poker is "easy money" because for most of us it's not. We aren't all Tom Dwans, or what not. The only way people like us are going to get results is HARD WORK. Might be a scary concept but if you really work and practice at it, it will become easier and easier to grind more and more and your capacity to grind will increase as you work harder and harder.

That said your graph is telling me you're spewing massively in non-showdown pots. I'm assuming this is mostly 6 max. And if it is then you gotta take a hard look at your game as well.



This.

What the hell dude, you are a pro, have a redline from hell and even then you can't make volume?


You're like the FPP pros just without the FPP

93% Sure!  

waga   United Kingdom. Jan 06 2010 13:38. Posts 2375

If fou can't beat nl 50 / play more hands just quit poker as a living...
seriously...
It's probably harsh but it's the reality


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 06 2010 13:53. Posts 10896

the numbers of hands/hours you play doesnt mather if you play good poker..


sirracksalot   United States. Jan 06 2010 14:49. Posts 2299







lol indeed. just keep playing man and keep your head up

haters gonna hate 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Jan 06 2010 15:02. Posts 7292

FGators26?

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 17:37. Posts 5719

lol i never ever said that i put SOOOO many hours in and i deserved this or that.. i duno why everyone is jumping like, OH SHIT LEAKS.. GRIND MORE K. lol massive redline dower happens with full ring, which most of all this is full ring.. microstakes FR happen like that, its standard for a tag player.. 6max is different and my redline isnt as bad at all. but either way this isnt my only 100K shit stretch in cash games, i prolly have had 3 others in the years ive been playing and the gmes are only getting harder... its alrigh tho guys, i dont care, its motivation to get me on the tourny game and in the job hunt.. im applying for a job today that pays 66K a year.. thats awesome, i duno wtf i would do with 5K a month.. id be soooo fukcing happy itd be nuts, and no worry that it wont happen again the next month, no worry that i might lose my 5K i just made while i grind the next month.. i can just go spend like 80% of that shit on cars and candybars.. only prob is 12 vacation days a year, i duno if i can do that lol.. anyways im gonna keep grinding some mtts and stuff till i find something else.. im not done with this game, theres still a level i have in mind ive always wanted to hit, and i havent, but i will.. i just might need a job to back me up so i dont need to cash out 90% of my winning and rakeback every month.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

Rush   United States. Jan 06 2010 18:42. Posts 2299

DAD?!?

Do you even know what DK stands for? 

milkman   United States. Jan 06 2010 19:57. Posts 5719

Can you pick me sumthin up?

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.Last edit: 06/01/2010 19:59

4TM   United States. Jan 06 2010 23:12. Posts 712


  On January 06 2010 18:57 milkman wrote:
Can you pick me sumthin up?




win


anarki   Belgium. Jan 07 2010 17:33. Posts 288

I'm a psychopath but graphs like that really make me sad

The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. - John Steinbeck 

patmcgroin   Afghanistan. Jan 08 2010 12:11. Posts 830


  On January 06 2010 07:46 whamm! wrote:
same shit with me. i dont take is as seriously as i should coz i feel it wont make a difference. but at the same time i need to make money from it, FML.
id suggest taking a break man or switching sites.



poker sounds like a dead end job, no?


 



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