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phexac   United States. Oct 07 2009 02:34. Posts 2563

My girlfriend goes to school and they have a poker club. I go there purely for social reasons--stakes are too low for it to be any sort of big deal, so I am interested in this from the purely academic point of view. We play $20 rebuy, with one 2x original stack addon after 1 hour for $20. People there are really really bad for most part. There are a few guys who kind of know what they are doing, but they still make fairly serious mistakes--raise-folding AT 5-way with 10-12 BB stacks. The tourney is normally 2 tables of 10 people or so. Prize is top 3 60%-30%-10%, which basically makes just cashing a lot less important than getting first place. So given very bad loose and clueless players, what is a realistic ROI for a tourney like that, given that I am quite good at SNGs and larger tourneys?

EDIT: also with not bubbling being a lot less important due to higher than normal premium for 1st place, and a lot less than normal reward for 3rd, what adjustments would you make on the bubble compared to the normal never-call rules.

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Nitting it up since 2006Last edit: 08/10/2009 00:19

edzwoo   United States. Oct 07 2009 02:39. Posts 5911


  On October 07 2009 01:34 phexac wrote:
My girlfriend goes to school and they have a poker club. I go there purely for social reasons--stakes are too low for it to be any sort of big deal, so I am interested in this from the purely academic point of view. We play $20 rebuy, with one 2x original stack addon after 1 hour for $20. People there are really really bad for most part. There are a few guys who kind of know what they are doing, but they still make fairly serious mistakes--raise-folding AT 5-way with 10-12 BB stacks. The tourney is normally 2 tables of 10 people or so. Prize is top 3 60%-30%-10%, which basically makes just cashing a lot less important than getting first place. So given very bad loose and clueless players, what is a realistic ROI for a tourney like that?



Not enough info on the structure. How many bbs do you get and how fast do the blinds move up?

I'm going to guess it's gonna be like 30% roi if you're any decent and it's somewhat like the PokerStars sngs except with a rebuy and addon.


[vital]Myth    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:41. Posts 12159

make sure to puff your chest out when you clarify that you are too manly and muscular to play such low stakes rubbish . purely academic. not because he's a girl. make SURE you take note of that, guys.

just kidding i love you

anyway i think something like 100% roi is probably reasonable with people that bad, unless the structure is super crapfest

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:41. Posts 12159

with crapfest structure i agree with edzwoo

also his trophy icon is looking quite dapper today

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

PoorUser    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:44. Posts 7472

agreed 100% roi seems achievable in an academic sense

edzwoo just thinks he can troll you because he has a trophy though

Gambler Emeritus 

[vital]Myth    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:45. Posts 12159

i would like to restate that edzwoo is THE MAN and if this thread gets 5+ votes for derailment to become an edzwoo appreciation thread, then i will gladly rename it.

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

PoorUser    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:46. Posts 7472

i guess the real question should be - what is edzwoos expected roi in this tournament

Gambler Emeritus 

[vital]Myth    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:46. Posts 12159

it's gotta be trophy%

as soon as he walks in, everybody knows it's edzwoo o'clock

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

PoorUser    United States. Oct 07 2009 02:49. Posts 7472

Submitted by : edzwoo

PokerStars Game #33124700427: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2009/09/21 18:17:26 CT [2009/09/21 19:17:26 ET]
Table Herge III 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hillybilly ($52.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Desgraciao ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: zugos ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 4: edzwoo ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: jlcr1 ($51.80 in chips)
Seat 6: serllino ($17.65 in chips)
Seat 7: BaDArM23 ($98.25 in chips)
Seat 8: gorozito ($55.40 in chips)
Seat 9: olijugon ($52.55 in chips)
serllino: posts small blind $0.25
BaDArM23: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to edzwoo 5sAs
gorozito: folds
olijugon: folds
hillybilly: folds
Desgraciao: folds
zugos: raises $1.50 to $2
edzwoo: raises $4 to $6
jlcr1: folds
serllino: folds
BaDArM23: folds
zugos: calls $4

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $12.75)

   2d7c2s
zugos: checks
edzwoo: bets $7
zugos: calls $7

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $26.75)

   2d7c2s5h
zugos: checks
edzwoo: checks

River (Pot : $26.75)

   2d7c2s5h5d
zugos: checks
edzwoo: bets $37 and is all-in
zugos: calls $37

Showdown
edzwoo: shows 5sAs (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)
zugos: mucks hand
edzwoo collected $97.75 from pot

Summary
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $3
Board  2d7c2s5h5d
Seat 1: hillybilly folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Desgraciao folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: zugos mucked ThTd
Seat 4: edzwoo showed 5sAs and won ($97.75) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces
Seat 5: jlcr1 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: serllino (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: BaDArM23 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: gorozito folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: olijugon folded before Flop (didnt bet)


(the field of the 20r tournament is represented by zugos)

GO EDZWOO

Gambler EmeritusLast edit: 07/10/2009 02:51

thumbz555   United States. Oct 07 2009 02:52. Posts 3281

I never realized how much of a balla/stunna edzwoo was until now. Noted.

I click buttons. 

SpeedyJack   United States. Oct 07 2009 03:12. Posts 618


  On October 07 2009 01:52 thumbz555 wrote:
I never realized how much of a balla/stunna edzwoo was until now. Noted.



he's even more stuntastic IRL

i know you're all jealous i get to see him every other week


phexac   United States. Oct 07 2009 03:22. Posts 2563

Structure is you get 100 chips to starts. Levels are 20 minutes and blinds are 1/2 - 2/4 - 3/5 - 5/10 - 10/20 - 15-30 - 20/40 and so on. After 1 hour you can addon 200 chips for $20 and you also get to use 50 chip show-up on time bonus at that time, so basically 250 chips added at first break. So it's really not bad. By the time it gets to the bubble though, biggest stacks have 10-20 big blinds.

Nitting it up since 2006 

phexac   United States. Oct 07 2009 03:22. Posts 2563


  On October 07 2009 01:41 [vital]Myth wrote:
make sure to puff your chest out when you clarify that you are too manly and muscular to play such low stakes rubbish . purely academic. not because he's a girl. make SURE you take note of that, guys.

just kidding i love you

anyway i think something like 100% roi is probably reasonable with people that bad, unless the structure is super crapfest



also puffed out chest is my constant state of being.

Nitting it up since 2006 

edzwoo   United States. Oct 07 2009 05:20. Posts 5911

Uhhhhhhh

LOL


JoeDeertay   United States. Oct 07 2009 20:22. Posts 1730

Variance has a big brother named doomswitch. - edzwoo 

LiLZhiMiNG   Australia. Oct 07 2009 23:26. Posts 637

hahahaha I think it's time for the thread name to be changed ;p

 Last edit: 07/10/2009 23:27

bane   United States. Oct 07 2009 23:54. Posts 2379

2000th post cause edzwoo the bestttttttttttttttttt


collegesucks   United States. Oct 08 2009 00:37. Posts 5780

about fckin time someone made an edzwoo thread


ggplz   Sweden. Oct 08 2009 00:47. Posts 16784

lol myth, i can hear pooruser and you speaking when reading that :D

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 08/10/2009 01:12

Uptown   . Oct 08 2009 01:06. Posts 3557

sup eddie

Half Pot! 

vlseph   United States. Oct 08 2009 01:43. Posts 3026

give ed green name red star imo

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Oct 08 2009 01:45. Posts 14026

That trophy avatar looks way more prestigious than the shitty bracelet avatar u get for winning a lousy WSOP event. no where near as good as elky's avatar tho


JoeDeertay   United States. Oct 08 2009 13:02. Posts 1730






Variance has a big brother named doomswitch. - edzwoo 

[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Oct 08 2009 13:43. Posts 1585


  On October 08 2009 00:45 byrnesam wrote:
That trophy avatar looks way more prestigious than the shitty bracelet avatar u get for winning a lousy WSOP event. no where near as good as elky's avatar tho



is there anything better then that?

[GiTM]- GoSu in the Making 

Bigbobm   United States. Oct 08 2009 14:43. Posts 5512


Edzwoo?

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

CrownRoyal   United States. Oct 08 2009 15:18. Posts 11386

i heard that edzwoo learned how to play poker from phil hellmuth jr.

WHAT IS THIS 

YoMeR   United States. Oct 08 2009 15:40. Posts 12438

this thread is awesome.

eZ Life. 

JoeDeertay   United States. Oct 08 2009 15:58. Posts 1730

Variance has a big brother named doomswitch. - edzwoo 

biabiaflexer   Canada. Oct 08 2009 16:44. Posts 244

the title to this thread is awesome lool

nice read :D 

K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 21 2010 13:07. Posts 2202

EDZWOO IS THE MAN

GG 

YouGoTGoT   United States. Apr 21 2010 13:30. Posts 1118


  On April 21 2010 12:07 K40Cheddar wrote:
EDZWOO IS THE MAN



Go outside man

YA I TALK SHIT, GOTTA DEFECATE TO CONVERSATE 

edzwoo   United States. Apr 21 2010 13:39. Posts 5911


  On April 21 2010 12:07 K40Cheddar wrote:
EDZWOO IS THE MAN



Dude lol. Bumping this thread is too much.


K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 21 2010 13:42. Posts 2202


  On April 21 2010 12:30 YouGoTGoT wrote:
Show nested quote +



Go outside man


you go outside

GG 

asdf2000   United States. Apr 21 2010 13:50. Posts 7708

oh looks like im too late for seriousness

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right.Last edit: 21/04/2010 13:50

[vital]Myth    United States. Apr 21 2010 14:40. Posts 12159

well done edzwoo

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 21 2010 14:51. Posts 6374

lol @ edzwoo setting another accs up and bumping his thread

ban baal 

edzwoo   United States. Apr 21 2010 15:20. Posts 5911

Just having some difficulty microing my zerglings.


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 21 2010 15:25. Posts 20070

9000% roi

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

joLin   United States. Apr 21 2010 15:41. Posts 3818

i appreciate edzwoo.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

gawdawaful   Canada. Apr 21 2010 16:05. Posts 9012

permanent trophy icon for edzwoo imo

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 21 2010 17:03. Posts 10422

YEAH EDZWOO

STEAK SAUCE


Jas0n   United States. Apr 21 2010 17:20. Posts 1866


  On April 21 2010 15:05 gawdawaful wrote:
permanent trophy icon for edzwoo imo


rockman255   Canada. Apr 21 2010 17:26. Posts 4471


  On April 21 2010 16:03 Twisted wrote:
YEAH EDZWOO

STEAK SAUCE



actually.. i'd rather HOT SAUCE

lol

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: noLast edit: 21/04/2010 17:26

collegesucks   United States. Apr 21 2010 22:17. Posts 5780

ban edzwoo


Endo   United States. Apr 21 2010 23:37. Posts 953


  On October 07 2009 23:37 collegesucks wrote:
about fckin time someone made an edzwoo thread




  On April 21 2010 21:17 collegesucks wrote:
ban edzwoo



6 months really changes a person


 



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